way2co0l

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Teaching rate only increases if your slave pays attention. somewhere around "only does it because she is forced" or below doesnt increase your stats. I had this problem when I was training mind broken slaves a lot early game. I wasnt getting teaching exp, because mind broken slaves always train poorly. I am now up to A+ teaching (from F rank) so it does work.
It's just soooo brutal. lol. You'd think by day 237 over the course of 4 slaves I'd have increased my rank once. Now I'm depressed. lol. Do sex skills not count then? Because I've trained my assistant and she's even been eager to do it, but none of them have increased my count.

Edit just to say not a single one of my slaves have ever been mind broken... Apparently they just aren't willing to learn enough from me despite the highest possible moods and such.
 
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ImperatorAugustusTertius

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It's just soooo brutal. lol. You'd think by day 237 over the course of 4 slaves I'd have increased my rank once. Now I'm depressed. lol. Do sex skills not count then? Because I've trained my assistant and she's even been eager to do it, but none of them have increased my count.
High diligence in common skill personal lessons is the only way to increase the master's teaching skill. Sex lessons increase the master's corresponding sex technique.

The effort required to raise the skill makes the school and tutors more valuable and differentiates the teacher start from the others.
 

way2co0l

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High diligence in common skill personal lessons is the only way to increase the master's teaching skill. Sex lessons increase the master's corresponding sex technique.

The effort required to raise the skill makes the school and tutors more valuable and differentiates the teacher start from the others.
I hear you, and now that I actually understand what's required I'm finally making some progress. One of the "mistakes" I made due to not understanding how it works was in trying to train my slaves personally before they become obedient enough to put the effort in. Early game, I should have been relying on the classes and not even bothering to try until I have their obedience. I was doing it the exact opposite way, so by the time they became obedient, I had already run out of other things to teach them which is why all my time spent teaching skills has resulted in no actual gains. I just turned this slave obedient and thankfully hadn't taught her much yet so I'm FINALLY making gains right now. I just wish I knew that before.
 

ImperatorAugustusTertius

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One of the "mistakes" I made due to not understanding how it works was in trying to train my slaves personally before they become obedient enough to put the effort in. Early game, I should have been relying on the classes and not even bothering to try until I have their obedience.
I'm not sure about your conclusion here. If you can teach them yourself, you save sparks, although it may take longer to level up their skill. When you're in a hurry for them to gain skills, classes and tutors (or your assistant) will be better than you for a long time, so trying to optimize for raising your teaching skill might not be the best prioritization. It will happen naturally as you teach obedient slaves later in the game.
 

way2co0l

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I'm not sure about your conclusion here. If you can teach them yourself, you save sparks, although it may take longer to level up their skill. When you're in a hurry for them to gain skills, classes and tutors (or your assistant) will be better than you for a long time, so trying to optimize for raising your teaching skill might not be the best prioritization. It will happen naturally as you teach obedient slaves later in the game.
Well what I'm saying is in the early game, there weren't very many skills I could teach yet at all. I spent a lot of time cleaning so I could teach maid skills, and I did it specifically so I could try to level up my teaching skill, but knowing what I know now, that was futile at that point in time.

Instead of trying to teach them myself first and then send them to classes to teach the other skills I couldn't later, I should have been sending them to classes first, holding off on teaching them myself with the very limited options I had, until they were obedient enough for those lessons to work. It would have been the much more optimal way of going about it.

I was just under the impression that trying to train them myself early on would help me progress, but it turns out that with the way the mechanic works that I had it all backwards. Ultimately I still would have tought them the same things personally, and sent them to the exact same classes, I just should have reversed the order I did it in. Classes first, personal training later. If I had done that I probably would have leveled my teaching skill by at least 2 or 3 points by now which would have made all of this much much easier on me in general. I'm glad I at least know it now. lol
 

way2co0l

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I did that with each of my slaves too. I'd start off teaching them everything I knew, so by the time they became obedient the only things left to teach them were things I had to send them to classes for which is why my teaching skill hasn't progressed until now. lol
 

Jokey

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Is there a reason why you can't be higher than 2 with more than 2 factions?

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If I am reading that code right, if your NPC is taurus based and you have a 3 in kamira you can't get any higher, same with serpis and korvus. This same code happens twice, once around 75 in interaction_result_city and around 143.

After fixing the ones near line 75 I was able to raise the factions to 4 but after meeting the requirements for serpis and taurus rulers I still didn't get the I'm completed message w/ the faction. I still get I was invited and need to find buyers.
 

way2co0l

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Should my assistant be losing physique? I don't see any way to control her calorie intake to do anything about it. It's not really a huge deal or anything, all it does is drop her rank until I switch her back to slave to fix it later, but I don't see why her weight would fluctuate while we're denied the controls we have for normal slaves.

Edit: Also Isabella apparently doesn't think my slave qualifies for any specializations. She did when she was a B rated slave, but once she went to A she says she no longer does. I doubt it really effects anything but just throwing it out there.
 

ImperatorAugustusTertius

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Should my assistant be losing physique? I don't see any way to control her calorie intake to do anything about it. It's not really a huge deal or anything, all it does is drop her rank until I switch her back to slave to fix it later, but I don't see why her weight would fluctuate while we're denied the controls we have for normal slaves.
It's a mild restraint on how much activity you have your assistant do. If she drops all the way down to Bony she'll automatically start eating more to get back to Model, but while she's Bony she'll have less energy and a negative moodlet.

Isabella apparently doesn't think my slave qualifies for any specializations. She did when she was a B rated slave, but once she went to A she says she no longer does.
Specializations require skills to be the greater of B+ or the slave's rating.
 

way2co0l

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It's a mild restraint on how much activity you have your assistant do. If she drops all the way down to Bony she'll automatically start eating more to get back to Model, but while she's Bony she'll have less energy and a negative moodlet.


Specializations require skills to be the greater of B+ or the slave's rating.
Ok gotcha...

And riiiight. I forgot about that. Well, looks like she'll be at least S- by the time I'm forced to sell her so I'm not terribly worried about whether she technically qualifies for the specialization or not. lol
 

way2co0l

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Well, finally did it. Sold my first S+ slave for 10,350 sparks.

143 days training her, loans taken out and with my last rent due was left with 23 sparks to spare in order to get her cleaned up and presentable for auction. Cut it REALLY freaking close there, but I managed to do it. Increased my teaching skill twice as well which should make repeating this MUCH simpler and with me having a new cash cushion to survive for at least 20 decades without loans with my current expenses can do this again with far less pressure on me.

I'm pretty sure I could have made more from her too. Cutting it as close as I did meant that after a couple piercings and cleaning her up at the salon, that I was left with exactly 2 sparks left to perform the auspex spell to see her charm was still only A quality. I'm sure that limited her sale price ultimately which sucks but what can you do. lol
 

sarinee

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Well, finally did it. Sold my first S+ slave for 10,350 sparks.

143 days training her, loans taken out and with my last rent due was left with 23 sparks to spare in order to get her cleaned up and presentable for auction. Cut it REALLY freaking close there, but I managed to do it. Increased my teaching skill twice as well which should make repeating this MUCH simpler and with me having a new cash cushion to survive for at least 20 decades without loans with my current expenses can do this again with far less pressure on me.

I'm pretty sure I could have made more from her too. Cutting it as close as I did meant that after a couple piercings and cleaning her up at the salon, that I was left with exactly 2 sparks left to perform the auspex spell to see her charm was still only A quality. I'm sure that limited her sale price ultimately which sucks but what can you do. lol
With all the piercings, she should be able to achieve S+ style and A+ exoticism.
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way2co0l

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With all the piercings, she should be able to achieve S+ style and A+ exoticism.
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Unfortunately I couldn't afford all of them at that point. I had borrowed all I could, she was an arena champion with the earnings that entailed, and I was effectively broke with everything riding on the sale. lol If she hadn't won the arena fight days before I would have had game over. haha
 

Projekt Night

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Does anyone know The Prince in Necropolis style requirements? Slave is at S+ style, and he still rejected her, saying the style doesn't suit her. I'm probably being thick and missing something here.
 

justacook

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My typical routine early on was a trip to the arena to train myself and possibly even my slave if she needed a mood boost from the recent victory, then to the HIP for a meal, then back home to train more based on remaining energy for the girl. I never bathed personally except for the opportunities to take her on a date to the beach. I tried to prioritize it as it was both cheaper than bathing each of us and a good quality reward.
lol I didn't know that going to the beach would solve the bathing problem. Because I never got to get more than 2 for rewards when living in the Slums aside from winning the tournament which I used that reward to give slaves sundresses. Right now I'm grinding for money by quicksaving, buy 20$ slave and win the arena for 50$, then I butchered the slave for some $$. I calculated the money I got from this is around 20-40$ (depends how fat the slave is).
 
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