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Purple_Heart

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Crying about how others spend their money is much higher on my list.
BTW. I'm not Helius patron but...


few mods let's you replicate scene from FD?


Funny because those issues are with better repack so...
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I've downloaded hs2, koi and koi sunshine better repacks and I've never had any problems like you describe.
I've also downloaded lots of characters(200+) for these games and they all work well. Better penetration mod is accurate and animations only break if you push body sliders beyond 100, because you normally can't, it is a mod that allows going beyond 100.
 

HardcoreCuddler

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HardcoreCuddler That signature picture from your HS2 scene (budget $20?) is more badass than what you had from the actual Fallen Doll.
now consider the fact that I had to reverse the fallen doll one for it to look any good because that animation looks backwards and wonky to me. Like seriously, when the cawk goes in first, it pauses as if it hit a wall. And the movement is more sudden as it exits than as it comes in? how the fuck does that work...
Wish I could do more complicated animations, like being able to press something to trigger a different animation temporarely like how you can in FD:OL, but I haven't figured it out yet with clip manager and controlling other clips using clips and aaa it's so fucking confusing but I'm slowly learning XD
I've downloaded hs2, koi and koi sunshine better repacks and I've never had any problems like you describe.
I've also downloaded lots of characters(200+) for these games and they all work well. Better penetration mod is accurate and animations only break if you push body sliders beyond 100, because you normally can't, it is a mod that allows going beyond 100.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think instead of the game or mods being at fault for the issues, I think what's really at fault is stupidity and lack of commitment past 1 hour to get something to work, more the latter than the former. Sure HS2 takes some getting used to but if you're not willing to invest one or two hours to get things that are CUSTOMISED SPECIFICALY FOR YOU don't shit talk anyone else for doing it.
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I've downloaded hs2, koi and koi sunshine better repacks and I've never had any problems like you describe.
I've also downloaded lots of characters(200+) for these games and they all work well. Better penetration mod is accurate and animations only break if you push body sliders beyond 100, because you normally can't, it is a mod that allows going beyond 100.
Depends on cards - they need to use correct unsensors, not change height or body proportions, i recall high heels were messing with animations. You often go with sliders above 100 and then compensate with another slider, that lets you get free from the stock shapes.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think instead of the game or mods being at fault for the issues, I think what's really at fault is stupidity and lack of commitment past 1 hour to get something to work, more the latter than the former. Sure HS2 takes some getting used to but if you're not willing to invest one or two hours to get things that are CUSTOMISED SPECIFICALY FOR YOU don't shit talk anyone else for doing it.
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You are absolutely right, people are lazy and don't want to learn. The whole point was that for a lot of people HS is not alternative to FD because they don't wanna mess with mods. I'm repeating this like fourth time now.

Then there is the aspect of quality and interactivity. If you stick to in-game stuff things are somewhat simple (just repack and correct cards), you got the controls for animation speed and you can easily change poses. But what you get is not exactly that great - especially animations that involve boobs, fingering was also poor if i remember. You can get much better results in studio neo but the difficulty/effort also spikes and you lack interactivity. Imagine doggy animation where the viewer has button to press that makes the male slap girls butt and send it shaking (at top of ongoing animation) - really like it in FD. Can it even be done? and just how much work it would be.

EDIT: Forgot about light mods, those add a lot to the game quality but are such a pain to set up right. DHH is easy (easier?) but to run NGS you need graphicsmod :HideThePain:.

Where did i shit talk people for modding ? did i criticize your work?
Fun fact: the upcoming Illusion game Room Girl have more gameplay than current Fallen Doll
AI girl already does. Ah everyone was so hyped and then it turned out to be not playable and everyone wanted cozy HS rooms back. I think it runs even worse then FD:OL.
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Purple_Heart

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Depends on cards - they need to use correct unsensors
You can set better penetration(bp) uncensors as the default uncensor once and be done with it. Or, edit every downloaded card one by one to use different uncensors. Either way, it takes like 10 seconds to change uncensors if you don't count loading times. By the way, I've stumbled upon cards that didn't use bp uncensors only 3 or 4 times out of those 200+ downloads I've mentioned before, so chances are you won't even have to change uncensors for downloaded characters anyway.

not change height or body proportions
This is wrong. You are free to change height or body proportions, as long as you don't set their values more(or less) than what vanilla game allows they won't break any animations. And by break I mean clipping problems, animations play fine. If you have to use other characters from the internet most of them are already using vanilla values to not "break" animations. So once again, most of the times no tweaking is even needed.

recall high heels were messing with animations
Vanilla game doesn't have high heels afaik and the last time I used high heels mod it was problematic. By problematic I mean heels were clipping through floor and acting like vanilla shoes. I don't know if modders have fixed it or not. My repack is quite old, maybe it is already fixed, I didn't check because I don't think it is a big deal. I can adjust positions during the game or while using the studio easily(it takes <3 seconds to do it) to compensate for the clipping problem caused by this mod IF I absolutely want my characters to wear the heels. Or, I can simply never use those problematic heels.

You often go with sliders above 100 and then compensate with another slider, that lets you get free from the stock shapes.
No, as I stated multiple times at this point, don't try to go around vanilla limitations, even when trying to "compensate" you'll see various clipping issues arise. It is not the game's fault that you are actively trying to "break" it.

But enough of that, lets get back to your original argument which I originally replied to before you moved goalpost to "mods are breaking stuff etc". That isn't really supporting your original argument here, which was basically "countless hours of modding VS no modding":
People totally want to spend countless hours to know how to mod so they can fap one out. Stay mad.
You can just download any better repack right now and enjoy it without any "countless hours of modding", same as this game. I don't see how fallendoll is any different in that regard.
I think this is an utterly pointless argument, so I won't bother replying to it anymore.
 
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AI girl already does. Ah everyone was so hyped and then it turned out to be not playable and everyone wanted cozy HS rooms back. I think it runs even worse then FD:OL.
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Don't you mean Sexy Beach Premium Resort? SBPR was a horribly unoptimized mess that takes forever to load even on SSDs, that was the game that had everyone pretty much going "why the fuck are you doing open world, Illusion?". By comparison AI Shoujo was surprising because of how much better it ran despite being Illusion's second attempt at an open world.

I mean, I get you're being hyperbolic, but AI Shoujo was far from being unplayable.
 

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You can set better penetration(bp) uncensors as the default uncensor once and be done with it. Or, edit every downloaded card one by one to use different uncensors. Either way, it takes like 10 seconds to change uncensors if you don't count loading times. By the way, I've stumbled upon cards that didn't use bp uncensors only 3 or 4 times out of those 200+ downloads I've mentioned before, so chances are you won't even have to change uncensors for downloaded characters anyway.


This is wrong. You are free to change height or body proportions, as long as you don't set their values more(or less) than what vanilla game allows they won't break any animations. And by break I mean clipping problems, animations play fine. If you have to use other characters from the internet most of them are already using vanilla values to not "break" animations. So once again, most of the times no tweaking is even needed.


Vanilla game doesn't have high heels afaik and the last time I used high heels mod it was problematic. By problematic I mean heels were clipping through floor and acting like vanilla shoes. I don't know if modders have fixed it or not. My repack is quite old, maybe it is already fixed, I didn't check because I don't think it is a big deal. I can adjust positions during the game or while using the studio easily(it takes <3 seconds to do it) to compensate for the clipping problem caused by this mod IF I absolutely want my characters to wear the heels. Or, I can simply never use those problematic heels.


No, as I stated multiple times at this point, don't try to go around vanilla limitations, even when trying to "compensate" you'll see various clipping issues arise. It is not the game's fault that you are actively trying to "break" it.
I was not trying to break anything, i was making characters that i wanted to make using resources provided by the repack. If you find my issues not legit then go to illusion help channel you will find enough of them.

But enough of that, lets get back to your original argument which I originally replied to before you moved goalpost to "mods are breaking stuff etc". That isn't really supporting your original argument here, which was basically "countless hours of modding VS no modding":

You can just download any better repack right now and enjoy it without any "countless hours of modding", same as this game. I don't see how fallendoll is any different in that regard.
I think this is an utterly pointless argument, so I won't bother replying to it anymore.
Am i to understand that you think that the in-game animation of HS are similar quality to FD? Well, I don't and that ends it.

Don't you mean Sexy Beach Premium Resort? SBPR was a horribly unoptimized mess that takes forever to load even on SSDs, that was the game that had everyone pretty much going "why the fuck are you doing open world, Illusion?". By comparison AI Shoujo was surprising because of how much better it ran despite being Illusion's second attempt at an open world.

I mean, I get you're being hyperbolic, but AI Shoujo was far from being unplayable.
Didn't play SBPR so i wouldn't know. AI was unplayable for me going sub 10fps during certain time of day and lowering settings was not giving any real fps gains. Even on the empty island the fps wasn't hitting 60.
 
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Didn't play SBPR so i wouldn't know. AI was unplayable for me going sub 10fps during certain time of day and lowering settings was not giving any real fps gains. Even on the empty island the fps wasn't hitting 60.
Ahh, I suspect what happened to you might be one of those cases of Unity being Unity (I've seen weird shit with that engine, like a static main menu spiking GPU temps by going 600+ FPS or massive stutters when running a 2D game off HDD instead of SSD), but judging from comments both here and on Steam, it seems it's not that common an issue.

That said, Illusion going back to a room-based system really isn't indicative of AI Shoujo's performance, they have a history of making a non room-based game, then switching back to several room-based games before trying something else again.
 

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I was not trying to break anything, i was making characters that i wanted to make using resources provided by the repack. If you find my issues not legit then go to illusion help channel you will find enough of them.

Am i to understand that you think that the in-game animation of HS are similar quality to FD? Well, I don't and that ends it.
Oh I see, you are one of these special people who changes the topic just to get away from the argument they were losing, aren't you? Anyway, I am incredibly bored so I will bite your stupid bait:
Yes, hs animations are better than anything in fd. I was totally talking about animation quality there.
Also, your "issues" are not even close to being legit and they are caused by your own stupidity.

>lets try creating a whale in this human character creator
>wtf why are characters clipping through
>trash gaem

>online gacha porn game with season passes
>muh grafix
>omg b£$t gaem evr 1000000/10!!!
 

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if you'd play this on a mac, you would need a new mac the next day lmao
I honestly feel sad for all of you that don't have the option to use a proper computer and have to use that garbage. The OS is fine but the hardware is just...overpriced, I guess. You probably need to spend at least double the money for the same consistent performance
I fucking love you, I agree on the overpriced garbage crapple. Not a fan, never have been, yes I've had 3 iphones, in the span of 2 years. My 200 dollar android has survived the subsequent 5 years. Ooph i need to upgrade that walking cancer brick soon. I digress, have my babies cuddler. No homo <3
 

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Illusion and all their games are extremely lame, never played Honey Select 1? You have all content (incl animations clothing etc) in Honey Select 2, overpriced, 60$ base game, 60$ every single dlc, only available for sale in Japan, and ofc censored, some titles are on Steam but yeah, you must pay full AAA price for 2 year old game without any official dlc included and thanks to Illusion Steam versions are hard to mod, most mods from Japanese edition does not work, and without mods after max one week you will be bored because vanilla game does not offer much. PH is a Illusion mod group, Helius copied all "best" Illusion practices to a western world + added some more. Blindly weebs are everywhere.
 

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Illusion and all their games are extremely lame, never played Honey Select 1? You have all content (incl animations clothing etc) in Honey Select 2, overpriced, 60$ base game, 60$ every single dlc, only available for sale in Japan, and ofc censored, some titles are on Steam but yeah, you must pay full AAA price for 2 year old game without any official dlc included and thanks to Illusion Steam versions are hard to mod, most mods from Japanese edition does not work, and without mods after max one week you will be bored because vanilla game does not offer much. PH is a Illusion mod group, Helius copied all "best" Illusion practices to a western world + added some more. Blindly weebs are everywhere.
Not sure if this is sarcasm but I'm gonna reply like it isn't.
All of what you said is true yet they are nothing compared to this mighty online gacha porn game.
Truly the best and most logical ideas a person could take from illusion's games :LOL:
Illusion's games in general has:
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And the best practices helius decided to copy from illusion:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::
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I don't know if it's sarcasm or not, but I see a lot of white knights here, hope you all bought a copy of Honey Select 2 (+ all DLC) through Amazon to support Illusion, the best developer in the hentai industry. have a nice day. ;)
 
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I don't know if it's sarcasm or not, but I see a lot of white knights here, hope you all bought a copy of Honey Select 2 (+ all DLC) through Amazon to support Illusion, the best developer in the hentai industry. have a nice day. ;)
Stating facts is now considered as being a white knight :WaitWhat:
Explain your angle on this argument correctly or continue writing edgy nonsense, your choice. Because last time I checked no one said anything about "best developer in the industry" or "buying" anything from amazon of all places, wtf :WaitWhat:
 
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HardcoreCuddler

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Illusion and all their games are extremely lame, never played Honey Select 1? You have all content (incl animations clothing etc) in Honey Select 2, overpriced, 60$ base game, 60$ every single dlc, only available for sale in Japan, and ofc censored, some titles are on Steam but yeah, you must pay full AAA price for 2 year old game without any official dlc included and thanks to Illusion Steam versions are hard to mod, most mods from Japanese edition does not work, and without mods after max one week you will be bored because vanilla game does not offer much. PH is a Illusion mod group, Helius copied all "best" Illusion practices to a western world + added some more. Blindly weebs are everywhere.
who cares they're so expensive when you can get them for free lol. At least there's SOMETHING there, and with studio neo you can create fucking anything imaginable, which is...way more than anything from Helius
Except for the practice of actually releasing a finished product. In the past 8 years Illusion announced and released 10 games, Helius has released... 2 incomplete demos :unsure:
I mean I guess all of them were shit and copy paste but hey at least they fucking released something. Helius is scamming people for nearly the same amount for less
Fun fact: the upcoming Illusion game Room Girl have more gameplay than current Fallen Doll
let's be honest...it's probably gonna be shit, but any gameplay is more than being able to press a button to play the same animation differently for a brief period of time lol
 
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