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To me it didn't look that bad, sure they had the gun, but that was more for if she fought them, after their quick talk, they knew she wasn't the one that they needed. Returning to the MC they were able to find out he was the one they needed, from the point of view of an author that was the best option, the next day he'll visit her at work, or something, and if she's not there shit will hit the fan. They know he can ruin them all, and cut them off from Van Horn, so she'll be fine.
They can't harm her or they will never get to Van Horn, and I suspect that they need him for more than just property, I suspect that they knew more than they should have, and the big sister knew there was more to the Van Horn family, and especially Frontier Global, they need him.
Then again if he comes forward as Van Horn then his secret Identity is gone, unless he uses the whole mirrored room method to meet them, and somehow proves who he is without showing his face.

Ohh and with the massage, that is one of the most effective ways to get information without losing the contact, it also doesn't look like interrogation.

Again this is just the view of a currently small time author, I can see it working out something like this though.
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I was thinking about the MC and how he is going to prove to the sisters he knows Van Horne. I guess it could create a strong bond between him and the sisters if he did reveal his identity to them since they are somewhat in a similar situation but I'm not sure if the MC would want to do that or not.

Maybe with Camilia they are using a weapon of a different form pleasure torture to get info from her :D. Could be that vibrator has an "extreme" setting that no one can resist. If that is the case I am all for Camilia getting tortured that way as long as I get to watch :love:.
 

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I was thinking about the MC and how he is going to prove to the sisters he knows Van Horne. I guess it could create a strong bond between him and the sisters if he did reveal his identity to them since they are somewhat in a similar situation but I'm not sure if the MC would want to do that or not.
The problem isn't to know if he want to do it or not, but how he can do it.

The sisters are facing a guy they almost know, don't trust, and don't believe when he say that he is in contact with Van Horne. Do you really think that they'll accept it if he suddenly say that he is Van Horne ?
This especially since he is way too young to be him. The memory MC had in the diner clearly show that Van Horne is the second face of the father's empire, therefore he exist since at least one decade, near to half MC's age, or even longer.
He'll need to prove that he's Van Horne, and I doubt that this can be done through an intermediary.

As for creating a strong bond, well, it all depend what the sisters really want from Van Horne.
They are a major actors on the market, anyone would be ready to lick their asses as often as they want, this just to be a part time partner ; some where surely ready to pay for the right to sell their properties, being in charge of Latimore's assets being enough to earn a lot of money from their other clients. This while MC clearly expect them to be the ones licking his ass. Yet, they declined the previous offers and still continue talking with MC, this clearly just because he said Van Horne's name.
Are they really searching for a new partnership, or are they searching for Van Horne ? It's known that he is a major player in the county, so there's a realtor in town that is in contact with him. The Latimore being in search for a new realtor is a good way to attract the one who already deal with Van Horne's assets, and so to reach Van Horne.
Plus, what would be the reason to pressure Camilia just to be sure that MC isn't lying ? They haven't hesitated an instant to be frontal during the second meeting, they could have been again during this one ; "I don't believe that you know Van Horne, arrange a meeting with him, and we'll be partners". It's how business works, no one would be surprised by this.
But no, Asa tried to gain the information on the side. She want to be sure, but also did everything she can to not say that it's what she want. And when she finally had no choice than say it, it was far to be done nicely.
She's here to protect her sister, the question is: Did she think that Van Horne is the solution, or the problem ?


There's also something important shown by the memory MC had. Something that play a role in the way he will handle that.
The father clearly said that, with Devon at Global Frontier, and MC being Van Horne, "they" will not understand that Devon and MC are sibling. But with Global Frontier being known as his father's property, if he reveal that he is Van Horne, it will create a clear and evident link between the twos.
And here the question is: is "they" addressing the school, or is it addressing some enemies ?
If it's the school, it's probably too late, MC is graduated, they would be pissed off, but what can they do ? At least it prove that the father was worthy of the school, since he achieved to trick them. But if it's some enemies, it's in both Devon's and MC's interest to keep the two clearly separated. As least as much as possible.


And honestly, this is a solid enough cliffhanger, way more than Camilia's fate ; you don't kill a character in the update where you give it its two first corruption points.
 

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This update was a pretty short one, it had a decent story though.
2 things that I had trouble with.

1 - Spending 1 hour in a hot tub... I've tried this myself it doesn't work, pruning up is the least of your issues, the heat exhaustion alone would make any business decision sound like a classroom full of disabled children trying to navigate an ice-cream cone. But after an hour in the hot water, I am fairly certain the whole scene would look like a bucket of 2 day old KFC that was stored in a humid room.

2 - The fact that MC was fine with Cam going off like that.
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As an "Only MC" player, who doesn't like any form of sharing, I personally didn't have an issue with this as it was pretty tame. That said, this is F95, and I can see it triggering someone's "OMG NTR!" like a veil platter at a vegan buffet.

Overall, I am enjoying the game Dev!

Not sure why there was a whole 'fade to black' for the milf scene though... seems kinda counter-intuitive for a porn game.

Either way, I look forward to the next update am happy to $upport!
 

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Not sure why there was a whole 'fade to black' for the milf scene though... seems kinda counter-intuitive for a porn game.
Indeed. We got ftb on a scene I very much would have wanted to see. Although Jess casually stroking MC then passing him off to her mother was pretty hot.

I've really cooled on this game. The naughty stuff is just so bland. The dev really hit gold with that one sauna scene and just hasn't been able to recapture that intensity again. It's too bad. I am somewhat interested in the story and the promise of more sex with Juliette and now Devon could be sweet. I'll definitely stick around though.
 

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SO... Anyone else concerned that the MC just willy nilly left Cam there with the 'Grady' sisters. I mean, yes, they chose the vibrator/dildo... but... knife, gun and what ever that torture instrument was. I don't feel good leaving Cam in their place. Other than that, a nice little update to move things along, especially the reveal about Devon. Though I wish something was brought up in the van before moving on to the next plot point.
 

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Hmm two issues with the Update and the situation with the sisters:
First of not worried about cam as Asa knows she has not informational value and it looks like since there was no point interrogating her any more and as she was oblivious to haveing been interrogated or how close she came to a more serious interrogation.
It seems to me Asa is juts giving her a happy ending to make sure and keep her none the wiser I am not entirly sure she is being held at all.
However the MC is once again showing no real feeling or comman sence at all.
His dealing with the two Ishii women make's no sence what was the point of his walking away power play before.
If he just caves to there frankly unresonable demends in the hot tub they pretty much say "we don't trust you at all so prove you know Van Horne or we want nothing to do with you or your company" The MC would like there company business but It's not like the MC actually in desprate need of there company business.
Surely the sencible play there was to tell them that the haven't given you have any reason to trust them either and since they don't trust you what reason would you have to put them in contact with Van Horne if they can't even be more forthcomeing with you and that you would rather just walk away and let the find another way to try and contact him.
Especially since all indication are that they need access to Van Horne more than you need them.
Not to mention all the hoops you have gone through to honour their traditions just to be dismissed as untrust worthy like that.

I mean seriously come it may be a cultural thing I don't know but what possible reason would the MC have to want to work with someone that pretty much calls you a liar to your face and then treats you with contempt "there is nothing left to discuss. I am sure you can find your own way out" or to put it another way " you are done here see yourself out" which is what Asa did on returning.

Seriously what possible close working relationship or any relationship could come from being treated that way at the start.
I for one would never trust either of them ever.

And on top of that and even despite the fact that I believe that Cam is in no danger.
The MC doesn't actually know that.
But what he do's know that he is dealing with Asa and she is a very dangerous woman.
And yet he happily accepts being summarily dismissed and walks away without a seconds thought about Cam.
He's not interested in how or even if she gets home let alone actually considering her possible safty.

It just comes back to what I have said before the MC shows all the signes that he has no feelings for anyone but himself.
To him everyone is just a pawn to use and be bugger'd if he gives a flying fuck what might happen to them because of it.

I found myself wondering towards the end of that conversation with the sisters at the end.
Is the MC really supossed to be some sort of super agent.
Id say he seemed to caved so hard at the end there
That I think if he'd been a computer sales man he would of sold them a PC for less than it cost to make it.

Well that my opinion on this update off my mind now so I'm gonna bed.
 

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However the MC is once again showing no real feeling or comman sence at all.
His dealing with the two Ishii women make's no sence what was the point of his walking away power play before.
If he just caves to there frankly unresonable demends in the hot tub they pretty much say "we don't trust you at all so prove you know Van Horne or we want nothing to do with you or your company" The MC would like there company business but It's not like the MC actually in desprate need of there company business.

Seriously what possible close working relationship or any relationship could come from being treated that way at the start.
Exactly! He does the walk away thing and you're thinking that 'alright MC is taking control he's getting things done' but then he pretty much immediately capitulates?! It's like we are meant to believe MC is this highly trained badass but we aren't shown that AT ALL. All he seems to have is his dad's resources and know people from school.

And on top of that and even despite the fact that I believe that Cam is in no danger.
The MC doesn't actually know that.
But what he do's know that he is dealing with Asa and she is a very dangerous woman.
And yet he happily accepts being summarily dismissed and walks away without a seconds thought about Cam.
He's not interested in how or even if she gets home let alone actually considering her possible safty.
Even barring the fact that we KNOW the sisters are dangerous, he just leaves Cam there. Like just leaves here with people she doesn't even know.

Yoshie: Your massage is complete.
Cam: I'll just join back with MC then.
Yoshie: Oh he already left.
Cam: Bwah?
Yoshie: *throws cab fair in Cam's face* See yourself out.
 

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This update was a pretty short one, it had a decent story though.
2 things that I had trouble with.

1 - Spending 1 hour in a hot tub... I've tried this myself it doesn't work, pruning up is the least of your issues, the heat exhaustion alone would make any business decision sound like a classroom full of disabled children trying to navigate an ice-cream cone. But after an hour in the hot water, I am fairly certain the whole scene would look like a bucket of 2 day old KFC that was stored in a humid room.

2 - The fact that MC was fine with Cam going off like that.
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As an "Only MC" player, who doesn't like any form of sharing, I personally didn't have an issue with this as it was pretty tame. That said, this is F95, and I can see it triggering someone's "OMG NTR!" like a veil platter at a vegan buffet.

Overall, I am enjoying the game Dev!

Not sure why there was a whole 'fade to black' for the milf scene though... seems kinda counter-intuitive for a porn game.

Either way, I look forward to the next update am happy to $upport!
from what i saw .. that so called sex toy looked like a knife ... a throwing one .. and it looked as tho Asa had that massage chick us the rounded end on Cam ..... i still think that the MC leaving Cam was kinda fucked up .... that i truly think should have never happened !!!! :unsure:
 

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Uf writing quality went quite a bit downhill on this one, but that didn't just caught only my awareness. Oh well. We'll see next one or maybe dev will change that like with the movie night.
 

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before this update "Lady Juliette" was known as mom to my MC now she is just Lady Juliette? did something get changed? or am I missing a patch?
 

minoan55

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before this update "Lady Juliette" was known as mom to my MC now she is just Lady Juliette? did something get changed? or am I missing a patch?
It is explained in the update why only the MC, Devon, dead dad, Charlie and Juliette know that she is his biological mother.
 
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All this speculation regarding the nefarious intentions of the Ishii sisters ... However, it is clear that they want to meet with Van Horne to ask for his help in their affairs; the questioning of Cam was to further their objective and only to cause harm as a last resort ... which implies that they believe that the only solution to their 'problem' is to gain the support of Van Horne and his company Global Frontiers .... The house sales seem to be a side issue in their opinion. 1623421912051.png
 

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All this speculation regarding the nefarious intentions of the Ishii sisters ... However, it is clear that they want to meet with Van Horne to ask for his help in their affairs; the questioning of Cam was to further their objective and only to cause harm as a last resort ... which implies that they believe that the only solution to their 'problem' is to gain the support of Van Horne and his company Global Frontiers .... The house sales seem to be a side issue in their opinion.
Good Point but.
Lets prosume for a second that the MC isn't Van Horne but Van Horne is a cliant of the MC's realtor company I say this because all indications are that the girls don't know you are Van Horne just that you work with/for him.
So why don't we look at this from a business point of view.
As he is a major client of yours it is your job to do what he wants and not as the girls seem to think his job to do what you want if a company starts telling a major client what that client has to do then they are not gonna have that major client very long.
As you pointed out the girls that you would like to do business with need actually need you to persude your client to help them.
But they are infact actually telling you that unless your client is willing to help them then you and your company can go fuck yourselfs.
So erm remind me again as business person why is it we want to do any business with them or anything else for them for that matter???.
 
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Hi LWtbo, speculation is the mana of F95 and as a business person the lure of the exclusive rights to a sme/large company would hold sway for an emerging company depending on the cost/benefits. However, although the business of MC/Van Horne's would be better to be cleanly separated we know that his father kept them convoluted together in confounding and compounding way ... getting business of the back of using Global Frontier to resolve their 'problems'. Also the MC seems amenable to dealing simultaneously with both the housing side and the 'other' side in the game .... at least that's the way it's written so far. Both parties have told the other that they do not trust to the veracity of statements made, and yet both parties have shown a willingness to continue until a conclusion has been reached. I reiterate that it is my opinion that the housing side is not the most significant to the sisters and that the MC is aware of that which means that to him the deal is one of low hanging fruit to pick if he wants to ... simply arrange meeting between the sisters and Van Horne to get exclusive rights for Free ... what company would dismiss that out of hand.
 
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Hi LWtbo, speculation is the mana of F95 and as a business person the lure of the exclusive rights to a sme/large company would hold sway for an emerging company depending on the cost/benefits. However, although the business of MC/Van Horne's would be better to be cleanly separated we know that his father kept them convoluted together in confounding and compounding way ... getting business of the back of using Global Frontier to resolve their 'problems'. Also the MC seems amenable to dealing simultaneously with both the housing side and the 'other' side in the game .... at least that's the way it's written so far. Both parties have told the other that they do not trust to the veracity of statements made, and yet both parties have shown a willingness to continue until a conclusion has been reached. I reiterate that it is my opinion that the housing side is not the most significant to the sisters and that the MC is aware of that which means the to him the deal is one of low hanging fruit to pick if he wants to ... simply arrange meeting between the sisters and Van Horne to get exclusive rights for Free ... what company would dismiss that out of hand.
Hi to you too Andrew David Irving
I would agree with you but there is just one point it's not free.
It comes with a major condition to it.
Which is that you have to get Van horne to do what the girls want or you can fuck off.

Now you and I know that the MC is Van Horne so thats not really an issue as such but you see the girls don't know that.
As far as they are concerned Mr Van Horne is a client of your's possibly a major client at that he is someone you work with but mainly for.
Which makes their demand highly unreasonable in a business situation.

Unless they can offer you enough business to compansate you losing someone as big as Van Horne then they shouldn't make that demand and you really shouldn't even entertain the idea.

You don't tell a company they have to make their major client do what you want or they can fuck off.
Well you can but its more than likely you will be the one thats told to fuck off.

And since they require Van Hornes help you can pretty much say their business is more than likely isn't enough to compensate you for the loss of someone like Van Horne.

Remember to everyone else Van Horne is supossed to be nothing but a major client.
So unless you confess to everyone that you are Van Horne.
Then any other company will just see yours a company willing to lose a major client just to get a less valuable clients work.
So it really is a good job you are Van horne and don't need any other businesses because you can kiss any rep or respect from them bye bye.

Apart from that I agree with you totally.
 
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Hi LWtbo, well you make a reasonable and rational case for some real world scenarios, but that is not the situation here. We agree that the MC knows that he is Van Horne so there is no problem from his perspective ... the MC just has to choose what to reveal and how to reveal it. From a business point of view it is fairly common for a prospective client/collaborator to attach strings to ensure that they benefit, including demanding a role of any parent company/investor/client, I have seen it happen many times .... the adage 'maximum pressure when the client is under duress' enjoys common usage from the finance industry to academic research, for example, to gain access to additional resource including clients or a desire to include/exclude certain parties from 'the deal'...
 
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