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Qixoni

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I haven't played since last year, MC being super dumb and the lie about him being top of the class in hand to hand yet being knocked out by a gimp pushed my suspense of disbelief a bit too much..

So thought i'd check and see if he'd grown at all...

Get's to the end "I don't trust you lot yet" to the girls he's talking to, they tell him to leave and he just leaves Cam behind without verifying she's okay....

So he's still a dumb fuck.
MC is a beta vanilla. Something huge disappointing considering being all the things you said and his own mother being a dominatrix.
 

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I was willing to give him some time to develop after the accident, but he’s more or less stayed the same. Its like he’s trying to come off as cool under pressure and smarter than everyone else in the room, but it makes him look worse IMO. I would have preferred if he was a little less robotic, with some actual real emotions. It’s fine if he makes some mistakes as long as he can own up to them and stop acting so wooden, even the few lewd scenes come off as too mechanical, as if it’s a job he’s getting no pleasure out of.
 

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The scenes with the porno queen are a very good example of that, it feels like a bore for him
I mean I know technically he works for her, but seriously he can't at least enjoy some of the benefits getting to sex up a hot milf sex queen willing to double team him with her own daughter?! It's like someone has a gun to his head and everything is just a job/chore to get done just to advance to the next part of the story.

You would think finding out about a long lost sister would inspire more than, "hmm, I guess we're related after all, but lets get back to this fake real estate deal and ignore/forget about the girl we trust most handling that business to get home ok with strangers we're still iffy on their motivations..."
 
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Qixoni

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You would think finding out about a long lost sister would inspire more than, "hmm, I guess we're related after all, but lets get back to this fake real estate deal and ignore/forget about the girl we trust most handling that business to get home ok with strangers we're still iffy on their motivations..."
THis was handled very poorly. I would be excited to find out i have an extremly hot older sister, lol.
 
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Haast

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He has to figure out how to tell her he knows they are brother and sister, and rectify that with how he didn't trust her because of secrets.

To the other comments about him not caring about Cam staying with the Ishi's longer, there are reasons why he doesnt mind, they hurt her at all, and they will never meet the man they want to meet, except when he wipes them out.
He knows they aren't that stupid, so if he argued too much they would know they could use her against him, especially later when they find out he is the one they wanted to meet.

Yes, he isnt very emotional, he only seems to have any emotions at all around certain people, that could use some work, sure as an agent/brekers school he would have learned to not show his feelings, but surely he would have learned to show something when he needs to.

He seems to show feeling around his adopted sister, and her friend, but not so much with others.

The more you show you care, the more people know your weaknesses. (Agents/Military etc)

Its a difficult tradeoff.
 

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He has to figure out how to tell her he knows they are brother and sister, and rectify that with how he didn't trust her because of secrets.

To the other comments about him not caring about Cam staying with the Ishi's longer, there are reasons why he doesnt mind, they hurt her at all, and they will never meet the man they want to meet, except when he wipes them out.
He knows they aren't that stupid, so if he argued too much they would know they could use her against him, especially later when they find out he is the one they wanted to meet.

Yes, he isnt very emotional, he only seems to have any emotions at all around certain people, that could use some work, sure as an agent/brekers school he would have learned to not show his feelings, but surely he would have learned to show something when he needs to.

He seems to show feeling around his adopted sister, and her friend, but not so much with others.

The more you show you care, the more people know your weaknesses. (Agents/Military etc)

Its a difficult tradeoff.
You do make a good point, but imo I'd like a protag to not come off as an emotionless bore. He seems to care for the adopted sis, her friend Jess to an extent, and the step-mom and her sis to a lesser degree but that's about it. It's bad enough the sex seems like a chore to slog through, just wished for a little better payoff.
 

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To the other comments about him not caring about Cam staying with the Ishi's longer, there are reasons why he doesnt mind, they hurt her at all, and they will never meet the man they want to meet, except when he wipes them out.
He knows they aren't that stupid, so if he argued too much they would know they could use her against him, especially later when they find out he is the one they wanted to meet.
They don't need to hurt her.

They could drug her, fuck with her mind to use as an inside agent or even keep her as a "special guest" until they get what they want.

You also have to realise how that would look to her. She goes there with him and he just leaves her behind without a word. If that was me i'd be having severe trust issues, I certainly wouldn't go anywhere with him again.

He has to figure out how to tell her he knows they are brother and sister, and rectify that with how he didn't trust her because of secrets.
"Hey, guess what, I got my memory back sis" .... simples.

Doesn't need to trust her but it's not difficult to tell someone you were once supposedly close to that you remember who she is. It's not like he showed any inner turmoil over it.

The more you show you care, the more people know your weaknesses. (Agents/Military etc)
Those people still show love to people they care about. There is a time and a place to bottle things, they aren't robots that walk around constantly stone faced.

Yes, he isnt very emotional, he only seems to have any emotions at all around certain people, that could use some work, sure as an agent/brekers school he would have learned to not show his feelings, but surely he would have learned to show something when he needs to.
He's barely out of that learning. He wouldn't have the experience nor reasons to bottle up all his emotions all the time. He's not an experienced field operative he's barely out of training and has issues with his memory.
 

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To people arguing that the school taught him to conceal his emotions, there is a counter argument - the school is all about power, winning and control, showing emotion (even if fake) can be a very effective way of manipulating people. The school would know this and would teach this as it is a powerful way to get what you want (in certain circumstances). The MC is supposed to be good at subterfuge - emotional manipulation comes under this.
 

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The plot of this movie is suspiciously similar to the one Sara starred in:
 

Haast

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They don't need to hurt her.

They could drug her, fuck with her mind to use as an inside agent or even keep her as a "special guest" until they get what they want.

You also have to realise how that would look to her. She goes there with him and he just leaves her behind without a word. If that was me i'd be having severe trust issues, I certainly wouldn't go anywhere with him again.

"Hey, guess what, I got my memory back sis" .... simples.

Doesn't need to trust her but it's not difficult to tell someone you were once supposedly close to that you remember who she is. It's not like he showed any inner turmoil over it.

Those people still show love to people they care about. There is a time and a place to bottle things, they aren't robots that walk around constantly stone faced.

He's barely out of that learning. He wouldn't have the experience nor reasons to bottle up all his emotions all the time. He's not an experienced field operative he's barely out of training and has issues with his memory.
With the possibility of Cam being held by the Ishi's, very doubtful, they need the meetup more than MC and his people do, they drug her, hurt her anything like that, and their chances of survival are nil, let alone their chances of doing a deal.
How Cam would react to his leaving is about the same, she arrived at the house alone, and the Ishi's will more than likely tell her he needed to go and talk to an important business contact, not knowing he was that person, they do anything that goes counter to that they lose so...anyway.

"Hey, guess what, I got my memory back sis", and now we are good... Nah, that wont work, she would be insulted by the fact that being his sister means he ignores his hunches, what if he does that again when his life or hers is in danger.

Trust will take time, agreed, but he lets his guard down to his ladies, heck he acts like he'd let one get away with murder, and that can be a weakness.

The last bit is pretty well covered below. Since I was saying in my original post that he needed to show more emotion at the right times.


To people arguing that the school taught him to conceal his emotions, there is a counter argument - the school is all about power, winning and control, showing emotion (even if fake) can be a very effective way of manipulating people. The school would know this and would teach this as it is a powerful way to get what you want (in certain circumstances). The MC is supposed to be good at subterfuge - emotional manipulation comes under this.
Your right he should have learned both to hide, and to show emotions as needed, which is part of what I meant by it being a difficult tradeoff.

MC needs to show his feelings more among his loved ones, yes, that includes Cam and all the other ladies, but he still needs to hide his emotions around those he doesnt know as well.
 

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MC needs to show his feelings more among his loved ones, yes, that includes Cam and all the other ladies, but he still needs to hide his emotions around those he doesnt know as well.
I find this an interesting question, the MC is only been around all these people less than 3 weeks (Day 19 last update I think). How much trust do you show when you have lost some memories and are told your father was kill. Do you trust anybody? Did the MC kill his dad? That would be an interesting twist. That could be why he can't remember...
 

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....*snip*

...MC needs to show his feelings more among his loved ones, yes, that includes Cam and all the other ladies, but he still needs to hide his emotions around those he doesnt know as well.
Basically this. If we got an MC that was able to do more of the above, I'd be much happier with the direction and progression of the story altogether. I don't need a whiny, emotionally unstable mess trying to avenge his father, but rather someone who can be cool as ice on the outside to those he does not trust to see the 'real' him, but to his loved ones, he remembers he his human, and not be afraid to let them in, lest he lose himself in the process of his investigation and risk pushing his loved ones away.

As for his remaining blood relatives, it would be nice to eventually see some sort of reconciliation, it doesn't need to happen all at once, but it would be nice to see him eventually forgive his mother and bond with his sister at some point going forward since his whole 'mission' in large part is because of care/concern for his family.
 

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It doesn't make sense how the MC only asks Sabrina's help with Alex's clothing business if Alex doesn't tell Sara about the tuition money. MC is intent on having her business succeed, he should ask for Sabrina's help regardless of which path you choose.
 

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I don't recall any. Unless taking orders from the porn queen milf boss constitutes as femdom? If so, that pretty weak.
 

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To people arguing that the school taught him to conceal his emotions, there is a counter argument - the school is all about power, winning and control, showing emotion (even if fake) can be a very effective way of manipulating people. The school would know this and would teach this as it is a powerful way to get what you want (in certain circumstances). The MC is supposed to be good at subterfuge - emotional manipulation comes under this.
I think a recurring theme here is that all characters that are involved with the MC seem to underestimate him. I'm not sure whipping out our magnifying glass to examine things in minute detail will have much benefit - besides entertainment. The truth will become apparent after the fact perhaps. I doubt the Dev (doing the Lord's work here) will have thought about it in that much detail - but that is just my opinion and more speculation.
 
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