Ren'Py Abandoned A Big Family in Debt [v0.1.1] [DRincs]

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Larry2000

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Why does everyone hate NTR? I just feel completely indifferent. I mean come on, you are just playing a game, you aren't actually getting cucked, stop acting like you are lol
That's just it right? You don't always know how people think. People think differently and they have their own reasons for feeling that way. Some are conscious, but most reasons are subconscious. I'll say that I hate it because it is the antithesis of what I look for in VN's. In most things, porn included, you are looking for something that excites you. In my case, I look for a well told story with characters and decent mix of porn and story. (If i wanted ONLY porn i'd watch porn) Others have higher thresholds for kinks and some have lower ones. Same reason why vanilla sex is enough for most. Some find other things that delve into the extremes. However, somethings go against what they are looking for. Personally, I like well made romance stories. I can overlook some moral deficiencies such as peeking/sleep groping/stealing panties and manipulation, but things that affect your immersion such as NTR and Rape can very negatively affect those that experience it. It's like the trope of the robot integrating with another piece of technology and unintentionally shocked by a jolt of electricity. Even though you may be fine, something has scrambled your brain, and it sucks. It makes you angry and furious even though it's fiction.

Some people are scared of flying on airplanes even though they are safer than cars. Some things are just Irrational.
 

Pu$$yBo$$

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That's just it right? You don't always know how people think. People think differently and they have their own reasons for feeling that way. Some are conscious, but most reasons are subconscious. I'll say that I hate it because it is the antithesis of what I look for in VN's. In most things, porn included, you are looking for something that excites you. In my case, I look for a well told story with characters and decent mix of porn and story. (If i wanted ONLY porn i'd watch porn) Others have higher thresholds for kinks and some have lower ones. Same reason why vanilla sex is enough for most. Some find other things that delve into the extremes. However, somethings go against what they are looking for. Personally, I like well made romance stories. I can overlook some moral deficiencies such as peeking/sleep groping/stealing panties and manipulation, but things that affect your immersion such as NTR and Rape can very negatively affect those that experience it. It's like the trope of the robot integrating with another piece of technology and unintentionally shocked by a jolt of electricity. Even though you may be fine, something has scrambled your brain, and it sucks. It makes you angry and furious even though it's fiction.

Some people are scared of flying on airplanes even though they are safer than cars. Some things are just Irrational.
I'm asking though why? For you why do you have a meltdown every time it's there?
 
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LOL So I wonder is the given name of MC the same for everyone? lol I go by Vader Smith in most of the games I play on here. lol So was shocked to see it as the default name for MC here. Made me wonder if I knew the Dev personally but I don't think I do. lol
 

Pathvader

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I'm asking though why? For you why do you have a meltdown every time it's there?
Well since my other answer was considered to be kink shaming, which i did not see it that way but anyway. I would say why would I want to have ntr in a game? What about NTR gets you off? Explain to me why you like it or why you are ok with it and it might make a difference in the way I see things. But to me the point of these games is to live a fantasy life, one where you can have all the girls and not the bs that comes with that. And NTR is to close to real life I mean the whole goal in life is to find a woman who won't cheat on you. And there are to many of those types in this world. So why would I want to play a game where it happens? I don't go ballistic about it I just stay away from the games that have it. So having it tagged properly helps out.
 
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Well since my other answer was considered to be kink shaming, which i did not see it that way but anyway. I would say why would I want to have ntr in a game? What about NTR gets you off? Explain to me why you like it or why you are ok with it and it might make a difference in the way I see things. But to me the point of these games is to live a fantasy life, one where you can have all the girls and not the bs that comes with that. And NTR is to close to real life I mean the whole goal in life is to find a woman who won't cheat on you. And there are to many of those types in this world. So why would I want to play a game where it happens? I don't go ballistic about it I just stay away from the games that have it. So having it tagged properly helps out.
My question is not why don't people like it, my question is why people get some fucking angry about it? I'm saying that it doesn't bother me either way.
 

KingWeWuz

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My question is not why don't people like it, my question is why people get some fucking angry about it? I'm saying that it doesn't bother me either way.
Ntr might 'ruin the game' for me, but I don't recall ever getting angry about it. Hope someone can give you the answer you're looking for.

Asking about tags might be a bit off topic though.

Can someone tell me how much content the ntr is and how much content the non-ntr content is?
 
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Pathvader

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My question is not why don't people like it, my question is why people get some fucking angry about it? I'm saying that it doesn't bother me either way.
I would have to guess that it is like I had said maybe most get into the game more than you do. The "total Immersion" aspect so they picture themselves as the mc and enjoy the concept of living his or her life. And if the NTR is not tagged properly or is not avoidable, they actually feel the hurt shame etc... of it. I can understand that I get that way sometimes with books because it is all in my mind when I read, not so much with games though. I don't care for it in games and will avoid it in game if able or just avoid the game. But I don't get upset as long as it is tagged so I know it is there to start with. I am still trying to figure out why anyone would like it. Just doesn't make since to me but oh well. Each to their own. lol
 
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Famescua

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Yep that's exactly what it's supposed to be.

I understand people who hate NTR no matter what of course ; but there are examples of game when you're told "NTR is happening, do you wish to see it or not ?" (minor example in Big City Pleasure, in Glimpses of the Past and others).
In those case, yes the NTR is happening and you don't see it, but it's different than a non-NTR run. Don't let that misunderstanding ruin great games for you, people.
Now I might be mistaken, but in big city pleasure its not ntr because she is having sex with her boyfriend. You are trying to split them up. And in glimpses of the past its not ntr because it was a nightmare and it didn't really happen. Now don't get me wrong I'm not advocating for or against ntr but I'm just stating what I saw in the games.

Also just so you know I didn't like those scenes but if a game has avoidable ntr ill play it. But it means that the ntr doesn't happen not just that you don't see it.
 
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I have seen criticism of this dev for the games he has commented on in f95 saying that seeing where he comments, you know what kind of game he is going to do. If you look closely, the comments are mostly about doubts about how to make the game, technical development questions. The logical thing for someone who wants to be a dev. Please let him work and if he is criticized let it be for something real.
 
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I posted a new public vote to decide what Mia (the youngest roommate) looks like.
I would like you to participate: & f95
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acondo

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I said what the heck and I actually played it, and my fears were true.:oops:

The story it’s obviously made to accommodate for the NTR, also it is very cliché, I remember a couple of games with the exact same plot.

If there is gonna be a normal route it will be the PG-13 version:LOL:, because it’s pretty clear to me that the focus of this game will be in the Cuck stuff, so if you are not into that, it’s better to just skip it.:cautious:
 

XXI

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Seriously? Nobody recognized MC's default name?
Yeah, I too wish I did not know who the old dust bag is. Just started, am at the naming part and already decide to cuck the fuck out of him!
 

darkdepths

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I would really like if we could get voyeur and sharing (not cucking). Unfortunately that is quite rare in games, especially with mothers.^^
 

Abhai

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Why does everyone hate NTR? I just feel completely indifferent. I mean come on, you are just playing a game, you aren't actually getting cucked, stop acting like you are lol
as funny as usual to read this ntr-bragging:KEK:
Fragile egos
fragile egos vs fragile dicks...hmm, what to choose there...it is a shame one rarely, if ever, can have both:unsure:
 
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acidnightmare

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fragile egos vs fragile dicks...hmm, what to choose there...it is a shame one rarely, if ever, can have both:unsure:
Lol, you're conflating real life and playing a game. I like playing incest games but i have no interest in doing that irl, same goes for ntr.
 
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Abhai

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Lol, you're conflating real life and playing a game. I like playing incest games but i have no interest in doing that irl, same goes for ntr.
yep, me and 5-6 billions of others sinked in/involved at various degrees in various digital or realtime games.
games are not important, all that shit is a pure fantasy (unlike real life), yet lives of many circle around that fantasy...or wont you agree on that?
considering that, high attachments from some players to fantasy/digital characters on occasions arent surprising.
particularly if the real time fa...life is a shit as it is most of times.
regarding "im loving playing xyz kink/shit, yet i would never do it in the real life" talk, well, opportunity makes a thief.
in short, whatever rings bells for any of you/us, yet pretending to be above "fantasies" while playing (enjoying?) the same games as the rest could be a bit hipocritically.
 

acidnightmare

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yep, me and 5-6 billions of others sinked in/involved at various degrees in various digital or realtime games.
games are not important, all that shit is a pure fantasy (unlike real life), yet lives of many circle around that fantasy...or wont you agree on that?
considering that, high attachments from some players to fantasy/digital characters on occasions arent surprising.
particularly if the real time fa...life is a shit as it is most of times.
regarding "im loving playing xyz kink/shit, yet i would never do it in the real life" talk, well, opportunity makes a thief.
in short, whatever rings bells for any of you/us, yet pretending to be above "fantasies" while playing (enjoying?) the same games as the rest could be a bit hipocritically.
ok
 
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