VN Ren'Py A Couple's Duet of Love & Lust [v0.12.7] [King B]

[packard1928]

Depending on the route you play, Nat does have an option to not take the drug. (She just gets some college BBC. to add to her BBC totals.) So far, the college guys are wearing condoms, if she took the drug and is staying the night, that's unlikely to continue. They may send her off at the end with a shower too. I'd rather her be coherent and consent vs. being out of it. It's just a game but there is enough games without rape to need it. While I play all options to see what has changed, taking the drug will not be my favorite story line.

I agree .... I have no problem with the the path... it will not be among my favorite ones..

 

[Big Rooster]

IMO it's a little bit too early to argue about rape\not rape. So far we've seen only glimpses of the whole scene - beginning from the Nat's POV and some short period from the middle (Ethan's POV). We don't know what's happend after Ethan left, we haven't heard Nat's side of the story, we don't know how they moved from prelude to DP. Current version ended with some kind of cliffhanger, Nat seemed uncomfortable and unhappy, but we don't know why. She might think that she was raped, she is happy with sex but might be worried about Ethan's reaction or she might be just really tired. There will be explanations in future updates. Who knows what we will see in them. There might be some choices for Nat (agree to gang bang or not, go to dance or stay for more sex, try to contact Ethan(he is asleep, remember?)

IMO she was just sexually wrecked, exhausted, most likely slightly delirious after non-stop climaxing for hours on end.

 

[timbooktoo]

IMO she was just sexually wrecked, exhausted, most likely slightly delirious after non-stop climaxing for hours on end.

If we consider that there are two clear path during the party and first we have already seen (one on one sex), that might be the truth. I just wish in future updates would be revealed that she was sober enough before the gang bang or at least happy with everything, otherwise it might ruin future path and she will completely lose interest in hotwife\cuc play.

 

[Ilcoriglianese forte]

It would have been a real gang bang with at least 4 guys, and Ethan watching with tears, and then going away and sending Darrell to get her, at this point, Darrel has more weight, the marriage is beautiful and has been over for a while.

 

[packard1928]

I think that scene would be hot if it was done sober... no drugs. that is was totally her idea... and she loved it. We do not need additional thing to get Nat to have sex. She loves it and Ethan loves to watch her ( Wish he would join in ) . I am not so much into golden shower.... I still want her to take a load in her mouth from someone. It would be hot if she swallowed it after in front of Ethan.

 

[88stanford88]

Wow I must downloaded this game in early versions but I had found the graphics and renders too crude and avoided downloading other versions.
I realize with pleasure that now the graphics side is much improved my compliments to King B.

 

[CutieLvr]

I'm not running a charity here. If money shouldn't play a part in your eyes, please pay me the amount I get paid from people each month. I'll close patreon and make the game as you want. For your information, it's been years since I've released updates here. Someone always leaks it before the public release. If you can, please make them stop releasing it here.
You are being too self-centered here. The project came this far because of the people who donated their hard earned money. There is only so much good input, and good words can go. So you are in debt to the people who paid. I called you out because you enjoyed the fruits of other people's money and hard work. And the moment it starts to go the way you don't like, you put a hissy fit and kink shame others. Since you never contributed to the project, the only way you could think to hurt me was to put a one star review. I called you out for that immaturity and lack of gratitude. The world doesn't revolve around you. I certainly do not.

I applaud you, KingB, although I can't afford to support you or any dev financially. You devs have my spirit support. I constantly go after the players who love to mock and belittle you devs. They forget that most devs put their hard work into these games and most players get to play them for free. I always challenge them to show us the game that they have made that is better. Not surprising, but, nobody has met that challenge.

 

[KROM95]

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[BulgariAMARA]

Let me explain something to you: just because someone takes drugs does not give you the right to whatever you want with them. Comparing drunk driving to rape is called false equivalency because people are not cars; they aren't objects.

Clearly, people under influence cannot consent, and even if Nat came there to have sex, who does she want to have sex with there? Surely, not anyone can just come up to her drugged-self and rape her. Also, what kind of sex does she want to have? We see she was willing to have protected sex but what if she doesn't want to do anal or unprotected sex or, as game says, she doesn't want to be DP. Also, for how long does she want to have sex for? She obviously didn't want to spend the night there, maybe she wanted to do it once or twice and leave.

Seriously, why is this such a hard concept to understand. Why does rape have to immediately have to be "she was forced under gun point" and why does someone willingly taking drungs equal they are free to be assaulted?

Very weird lack of humanity.

False equivalence, as well as the reference to the lack of humanity, are completely inappropriate in this case.
I'm not comparing a person to a car, I'm talking about the consequences of a person's action, in the game it's voluntary drug use, in my reception, it's voluntary alcohol intake.
In addition, you completely deprive Nat of subjectivity, that is, whatever she does, other people should be responsible for her actions.
Amazing logic.
But maybe you can still answer at least one question for me.
Did she take drugs voluntarily or under duress?

 

[depeche mode]

who cares about the drug shit. is not like nat hasnt been a bottom feeder whore since day 1

 

[gullible]

People are reading into it too much.

She specifically went there to have sex with one or more men.

She chose to take the pill knowing what it would do to her and was conscious during the entire thing.

She was out of it after she left because she was still high and also exhausted/dick drunk.

It's a freaking game. She's a grown woman going to a frathouse to get laid. We don't need 3 pages of debate about this, it's what happened. I didn't see anyone put the drug in her drink without her knowledge.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

False equivalence, as well as the reference to the lack of humanity, are completely inappropriate in this case.
I'm not comparing a person to a car, I'm talking about the consequences of a person's action, in the game it's voluntary drug use, in my reception, it's voluntary alcohol intake.

The lack of humanity is very appropriate usage here since you are doing what is called "victim blaming". You are blaming the person for being assaulted.

It's a false equivalency because driving a car and being raped are obviously not the same thing. One is you endanger others through your negligence as drinking inhibits your ability to drive, hence putting others at risk, the other is someone else putting you at risk because you got drunk/drugged. You are quite literally saying consequences of drunk driving = ticket/prison and that consequences of drinking/drug use = being raped.

In addition, you completely deprive Nat of subjectivity, that is, whatever she does, other people should be responsible for her actions. Amazing logic.

"her actions" she did not rape herself.

But maybe you can still answer at least one question for me. Did she take drugs voluntarily or under duress?

This isn't about the character in the game but rather real people who are put in this situation. Even if she did take the drugs on her own accords the "punishment" for her negligence shouldn't be that she gets raped nor should that in any way make the assault ok, obviously. Why should there be any consequences of anyone getting drunk/getting high, outside of the obvious physiological response your body would have to those substances?

 

[JimMorrison19]

IMO it's a little bit too early to argue about rape\not rape. So far we've seen only glimpses of the whole scene - beginning from the Nat's POV and some short period from the middle (Ethan's POV). We don't know what's happend after Ethan left, we haven't heard Nat's side of the story, we don't know how they moved from prelude to DP. Current version ended with some kind of cliffhanger, Nat seemed uncomfortable and unhappy, but we don't know why. She might think that she was raped, she is happy with sex but might be worried about Ethan's reaction or she might be just really tired. There will be explanations in future updates. Who knows what we will see in them. There might be some choices for Nat (agree to gang bang or not, go to dance or stay for more sex, try to contact Ethan(he is asleep, remember?)

How dare you employ patience and reason in your argument! That's unfair to most of the rest of the commenters.

 

[BulgariAMARA]

Why should there be any consequences of anyone getting drunk/getting high, outside of the obvious physiological response your body would have to those substances?

Because that's what real life is like. I didn't come up with this, when an adult takes alcohol or drugs, he must understand that negative consequences can occur.
By the way, sometimes there are positive consequences, but these are still exceptions to the rules.

This isn't about the character in the game but rather real people who are put in this situation. Even if she did take the drugs on her own accords the "punishment" for her negligence shouldn't be that she gets raped nor should that in any way make the assault ok, obviously.

I asked you a direct and simple question, which, based on the plot of the game, has the same simple and obvious answer to everyone.

Instead of a direct and clear answer, you started ranting.
This tells me that you are a person who prefers to avoid reality and is in your own, comfortable, fictional world. It's easier for you.
I'm not trying to insult or humiliate you, I'm just talking about my observation.

Now, I ask you to draw your attention to the fact that we are not in court considering Nat's rape claim.(And you're not her lawyer. By the way, your argument is extremely weak.)

We are on a pirate site and discussing a porn game.

Why am I reminding you of this?

Because according to the plot of the game, the author is trying to tell us the story of a woman who, from an ordinary wife, is gradually subjected to corruption, cuckolds her husband, becomes a hot wife. Instead of taking drugs, the author would have to stretch the plot over several dozen pages so that an ordinary woman would move from an ordinary family sexual life to debauchery with young guys.

That is, we are talking about an artistic device that the author used as a switch that allowed a lady to have sex with two young guys. That's why there is no violence here, you just make a choice whether to take drugs or not. If you don't take drugs, the plot goes completely different.
Man, if you're not a troll, then come back to reality, stop talking nonsense about rape.

Anyway, that's where I end the discussion. All the best.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

We are on a pirate site and discussing a porn game.

Our conversation has long gone past just this game.

Because that's what real life is like. I didn't come up with this, when an adult takes alcohol or drugs, he must understand that negative consequences can occur.

Yes, such as rape. And the only person who would be to blame for that are the rapists.

That is, we are talking about an artistic device that the author used as a switch that allowed a lady to have sex with two young guys. That's why there is no violence here, you just make a choice whether to take drugs or not. If you don't take drugs, the plot goes completely different.
Man, if you're not a troll, then come back to reality, stop talking nonsense about rape.

If there is violence or not, it is irrelevant to it being rape or not. I am sure that you, as I'm sure a well read man, know that rape doesn't require violence for it to take place. And yes, we are talking also about the game, with which I take no issue that it includes rape, but I do take issue with you, or anyone else, denying this is rape.

I asked you a direct and simple question, which, based on the plot of the game, has the same simple and obvious answer to everyone.Instead of a direct and clear answer, you started ranting.

And I gave you a direct answer. You just didn't like it.

 

[packard1928]

Guys... enough ! Take the disagreement off this site.

 

[Leongen43]

Why don't you stop with this discussion and accept that you don't agree and move on because this is getting annoying and the only thing you are going to achieve is that because of some members King B no longer wants to publish with us anymore, I hope you understand

 

[dian091]

she "chose" to smoke weed and take the pill, knowing full well what it was, the frat guys didn't spike her drink or force her to do anything. I know we're all guilty of putting Nat on a pedestal sometimes, but she was there to get fucked hard and live out slut fantasy she's been harboring since her college days, when she was too inhibited to act her desires.

I don't recall Matt saying what the pill was and describing what it would do to someone who's been smoking Pot, I also admit to skipping through some dialogue. If you're semi-conscious, you do not have the ability to ask your partners to stop. It's a moot point so far, Nat hasn't showered yet. if she masturbates in the shower thinking about all those young cocks and being a mature cum dump, she's fine with how it all transpired. If you have a choice to cry in the shower, she could file rape charges.

 

[DiegoSaintE]

Hi. What is the changelog for V.011? Does the old guy have any scene yet?

 

[Samantha_Gaming]

Love it.
Please change your avatar, is scary.

Will do, sorry about that.