VN Ren'Py A Couple's Duet of Love & Lust [v0.13.4] [King B]

[NewTricks]

It's actually pretty easy for Ethan to keep Nat from cheating on him. He basically needs to just be nice to her. The precipice that sets off the NTR route is actually not so much Nat listening to the swinger couple next door or being tempted by the withered dick of the busted old landlord but Ethan being authentically shitty to her about Darryl flirting with her. Even if he is a dick the first time and spends that first night in the doghouse he has several more opportunities to turn her back to the vanilla route before things go too far. Even in a couple of less likely scenarios after they have gone too far. Even when she is giving into temptation and wants to try the cuckolding route she won't do it if he says that he isn't into it and doesn't cheat on her first. With so many routes to explore, though, I can see why people would judge her harshly if they have only played the routes where they chose for Nat to be a horny little minx at every provocation and for Ethan to be petulant about everything.

 

[Big Rooster]

That's a good observation, but some people like to play the Nat "cheating slut" route.
There are many other routes too, with a more balanced and realistic approach (for a game) that we could play. Many options for different strokes for different folks. IMO this could be the greatest Cuckold/Hotwife/Swinging/Sharing game out there with only the heavily filtered artwork, holding it back. While Nat is a hottie and Ethan is handsome enough, their asset details are just plain shitty. Thinking that King B was trying to keep the asset costs in check.

 

[vandal.h]

It's actually pretty easy for Ethan to keep Nat from cheating on him. He basically needs to just be nice to her. The precipice that sets off the NTR route is actually not so much Nat listening to the swinger couple next door or being tempted by the withered dick of the busted old landlord but Ethan being authentically shitty to her about Darryl flirting with her. Even if he is a dick the first time and spends that first night in the doghouse he has several more opportunities to turn her back to the vanilla route before things go too far. Even in a couple of less likely scenarios after they have gone too far. Even when she is giving into temptation and wants to try the cuckolding route she won't do it if he says that he isn't into it and doesn't cheat on her first. With so many routes to explore, though, I can see why people would judge her harshly if they have only played the routes where they chose for Nat to be a horny little minx at every provocation and for Ethan to be petulant about everything.

The only triggers to allowing Nat to cheat are 1) blaming her for flirting with Darrell & 2) keep staring at Jenna's crotch. After this the ball is in Nat's court. She will trade nudes with Darrell or try to find comfort with Peter. The other break off point is when Jenna tries to seduce Ethan. If he rejects her but doesn't tell Nat she'll still continue to cheat.

 

[Leongen43]

That's a good observation, but some people like to play the Nat "cheating slut" route.
There are many other routes too, with a more balanced and realistic approach (for a game) that we could play. Many options for different strokes for different folks. IMO this could be the greatest Cuckold/Hotwife/Swinging/Sharing game out there with only the heavily filtered artwork, holding it back. While Nat is a hottie and Ethan is handsome enough, their asset details are just plain shitty. Thinking that King B was trying to keep the asset costs in check.

Is it my impression or with this update that comes the pure vanilla route is going to disappear because the moment Nat starts working for Jenna and clearly this bitch is not going to make it easy for the couple, Riya could participate in a video if we sell eyes on both of them and we can have a threesome with Ethan in his dominant route?

 

[marvis22]

There is any estimate to the next update on submissive cuckold route (Darel mad Nat)? After the scene where Nat asks if its okay to Ethan if she asks him to leave the room (where she is being fucked by Darel).

 

[SideshowBobNo.2]

There is any estimate to the next update on submissive cuckold route (Darel mad Nat)? After the scene where Nat asks if its okay to Ethan if she asks him to leave the room (where she is being fucked by Darel).

I agree, the route where Ethan is annoyed about his wifes infidelity is interesting.

 

[Leongen43]

I agree, the route where Ethan is annoyed about his wifes infidelity is interesting.

In that route, I don't understand why he doesn't throw her out of the house or he leaves, if Nat has no problem being openly unfaithful and Ethan would have to find a way to continue without her and hopefully find someone like Riya to restart your life, because someone who cheats on you so openly doesn't love you is what I think, if Ethan leaves the house would he leave peacefully or would he leave the gas on so the house explodes?

 

[nonotme101]

In that route, I don't understand why he doesn't throw her out of the house or he leaves, if Nat has no problem being openly unfaithful and Ethan would have to find a way to continue without her and hopefully find someone like Riya to restart your life, because someone who cheats on you so openly doesn't love you is what I think, if Ethan leaves the house would he leave peacefully or would he leave the gas on so the house explodes?

 

[slave_boy]

It's actually pretty easy for Ethan to keep Nat from cheating on him. He basically needs to just be nice to her. The precipice that sets off the NTR route is actually not so much Nat listening to the swinger couple next door or being tempted by the withered dick of the busted old landlord but Ethan being authentically shitty to her about Darryl flirting with her.

that's true, but it's something I dislike. I like to see women driving and deciding on things in these VNs, not just reacting to things. i don't really care for the "she is being corrupted" angle that so many games go with. i like to see her being the one in control and deciding on the path because she wants it that way.
that is also why I love Jenna way more lol, and her scenes with ethan (and her husband) are the ones I like best, because she is the one deciding that that's how it's should be, but I understand that it's not the main draw of a game like this.

EDIT: this also gave me an idea, I'd love to see VNs where it's the guy being corrupted. hopelessly in love and slowly she uses that to change their dynamic to enable her slutty side. sadly there are hardly any VNs like that.

 

[NewTricks]

that's true, but it's something I dislike. I like to see women driving and deciding on things in these VNs, not just reacting to things. i don't really care for the "she is being corrupted" angle that so many games go with. i like to see her being the one in control and deciding on the path because she wants it that way.
that is also why I love Jenna way more lol, and her scenes with ethan (and her husband) are the ones I like best, because she is the one deciding that that's how it's should be, but I understand that it's not the main draw of a game like this.

EDIT: this also gave me an idea, I'd love to see VNs where it's the guy being corrupted. hopelessly in love and slowly she uses that to change their dynamic to enable her slutty side. sadly there are hardly any VNs like that.

I'm going to gently push back a bit. Nat does make her own decisions and they do matter. The original complaint that I was addressing was how hard it was to stay off of the NTR route, which isn't the case at all. As for Ethan being corrupted, there is an entire branch for that called Ethan Reluctant but to achieve it you need to make Nat very enthusiastic about the lifestyle while balancing Ethan being considerate of his wife while having reservations about the lifestyle. It is the inverse of the path where you select the skeptical answers for Nat. However, the cuckolding path has several entry points, some of which can be very angry and a few that are also the NTR path. In short, there is a lot of gray areas but also a lot of opportunity to make the story your own.

 

[slave_boy]

As for Ethan being corrupted, there is an entire branch for that called Ethan Reluctant but to achieve it you need to make Nat very enthusiastic about the lifestyle while balancing Ethan being considerate of his wife while having reservations about the lifestyle.

I think I played through some of that but from what I remember in that she has basically checked out of their relationship and hardly talks to him and probably wouldn't even notice if he disappeared.
but maybe I missed the path you are referring to, I haven't tried them all.

 

[NewTricks]

I think I played through some of that but from what I remember in that she has basically checked out of their relationship and hardly talks to him and probably wouldn't even notice if he disappeared.
but maybe I missed the path you are referring to, I haven't tried them all.

No, I don't think that is the path at all. In the Ethan reluctant path, his contribution is very important to her. You are on the NTR route most likely. There are two NTR cuckolding routes, one where Ethan is oblivious to the affair starting before he gave permission and another where he finds out and she blackmails him into continuing with cuckolding. Neither of those is the reluctant path. If you click on the statistics it will likely have NTR in big red letters right above the stats. You can discover more about this route in the short-form walkthrough including the decisions you need to make in order to have scenes of Nat corrupting her husband. It isn't my preferred cuckolding route, though, as I like the one where they are both interested and enthusiastic about the lifestyle best.

 

[Brokebacker]

that's true, but it's something I dislike. I like to see women driving and deciding on things in these VNs, not just reacting to things. i don't really care for the "she is being corrupted" angle that so many games go with. i like to see her being the one in control and deciding on the path because she wants it that way.
that is also why I love Jenna way more lol, and her scenes with ethan (and her husband) are the ones I like best, because she is the one deciding that that's how it's should be, but I understand that it's not the main draw of a game like this.

EDIT: this also gave me an idea, I'd love to see VNs where it's the guy being corrupted. hopelessly in love and slowly she uses that to change their dynamic to enable her slutty side. sadly there are hardly any VNs like that.

I don't like the "corruption" trope period, it is used in so many games as a mechanical device to indicate change within a characters mental state but it makes them seem so shallow and almost robotic. "She is being corrupted, she now has 10 corruption, careful she is becoming an uncontrollable slut". Nah, people are a bit more complicated than that, put some nuance into it.

And as for Nat, I never looked at her like she was some purified angel who is now being dragged down by Ethan's perversions.
She is just a normal person with flaws and unfulfilled desires/dreams like anybody else. This is like a sexual awakening, dormant desires are popping up left and right in her mind that she never knew she had. She is discovering another part of herself while encouraging Ethan to succumb to his own, even if it is to his own detriment. He can't control it any more, and neither can Nat.
And I think she wants reconciliation between her new sexual desires and her existing marriage with Ethan. Whether she will do that by force, blackmail, manipulation or using Ethan's desires against him. Or simply giving him a small taste of what he wants so she can later take a big taste of what she wants, slowly wearing him down and moving the line of what is acceptable.

But I agree with you, I too want to see more of Nat's thoughts and her decisions being her own rather than them being purely influenced by Ethan or someone else. And in the sub path we are seeing more and more of that, which is good.
But we still haven't seen any real tension or drama between them, no confrontation has happened as a result of anything. Talking about the sub-cuck path btw, not the other paths. Don't know if the author is afraid or what, a confrontation or a bit of tension doesn't mean you need to drastically change the direction of the story. People can have fights/disagreements without it ending in apocalypse. Being in their situation, going from a vanilla marriage to this, even if it was Ethan's idea and he likes most of it. Surely tension and drama would eventually ensue as Ethan's insecurites are rising in unison with his dick when he realizes he is losing control over his wife and thus their marriage too.

It wouldn't be hard for Nat to deal with any confrontation from Ethan at this point, she has so much ammo. She can deal with it gently and reassure him that it's ok for him to feel a bit insecure and give him a pity blowjob to calm him down. Or she can put him in his place and let him know that her desires are valid too. Would she make him get down on his knees and kiss her feet to apologize? Is that too far? Probably, we are not there just yet. But she already has Ethan's balls in her fist, she can easily put them under her heel if she really wants to. It's just tough love.

 

[Leongen43]

I don't like the "corruption" trope period, it is used in so many games as a mechanical device to indicate change within a characters mental state but it makes them seem so shallow and almost robotic. "She is being corrupted, she now has 10 corruption, careful she is becoming an uncontrollable slut". Nah, people are a bit more complicated than that, put some nuance into it.

And as for Nat, I never looked at her like she was some purified angel who is now being dragged down by Ethan's perversions.
She is just a normal person with flaws and unfulfilled desires/dreams like anybody else. This is like a sexual awakening, dormant desires are popping up left and right in her mind that she never knew she had. She is discovering another part of herself while encouraging Ethan to succumb to his own, even if it is to his own detriment. He can't control it any more, and neither can Nat.
And I think she wants reconciliation between her new sexual desires and her existing marriage with Ethan. Whether she will do that by force, blackmail, manipulation or using Ethan's desires against him. Or simply giving him a small taste of what he wants so she can later take a big taste of what she wants, slowly wearing him down and moving the line of what is acceptable.

But I agree with you, I too want to see more of Nat's thoughts and her decisions being her own rather than them being purely influenced by Ethan or someone else. And in the sub path we are seeing more and more of that, which is good.
But we still haven't seen any real tension or drama between them, no confrontation has happened as a result of anything. Talking about the sub-cuck path btw, not the other paths. Don't know if the author is afraid or what, a confrontation or a bit of tension doesn't mean you need to drastically change the direction of the story. People can have fights/disagreements without it ending in apocalypse. Being in their situation, going from a vanilla marriage to this, even if it was Ethan's idea and he likes most of it. Surely tension and drama would eventually ensue as Ethan's insecurites are rising in unison with his dick when he realizes he is losing control over his wife and thus their marriage too.

It wouldn't be hard for Nat to deal with any confrontation from Ethan at this point, she has so much ammo. She can deal with it gently and reassure him that it's ok for him to feel a bit insecure and give him a pity blowjob to calm him down. Or she can put him in his place and let him know that her desires are valid too. Would she make him get down on his knees and kiss her feet to apologize? Is that too far? Probably, we are not there just yet. But she already has Ethan's balls in her fist, she can easily put them under her heel if she really wants to. It's just tough love.

In many of the routes their relationship can accommodate the changes that occur but in the routes where she openly cheats on you I don't think there is a solution if you make her choose to believe Darrel in confrontation, in that route I suppose she will separate and Ethan will have to start again, painful when your couple stops loving you by ending the relationship but it is not death for anyone and I say this from experience, you just have to use what you learned to make it go better, if you find a new couple Ethan should block all the pages with BBC content?

 

[Brokebacker]

In many of the routes their relationship can accommodate the changes that occur but in the routes where she openly cheats on you I don't think there is a solution if you make her choose to believe Darrel in confrontation, in that route I suppose she will separate and Ethan will have to start again, painful when your couple stops loving you by ending the relationship but it is not death for anyone and I say this from experience, you just have to use what you learned to make it go better, if you find a new couple Ethan should block all the pages with BBC content?

Yes, like I said I was specifically talking about the sub-cuck path. Both Ethan and Nat behave very differently depending on what path you are on of course, and on the cheating path it would be hard to see them working it out...even if I can imagine Ethan crawling back to her on his knees when he gets rejected by Riya, it's simply not what that path allows for since Ethan is not a submissive cuck in that route, not yet anyway.

 

[pango173]

updates ? whats the newest version

 

[Weeeed]

What would be the best scene for Nat's debut in his new job?
a threesome with a new character, lesbian sex or female domination where they spank Ethan and have reverse sex with him, any better idea?

for willing cuckolding route, i suggest, cuckolding porn.


title, bbc breed hotwife in front of husband.
or cuckolding creampie and husband clean up and sloppy second

or if Nats debut with Jenna.

then Ethan reverse sex, Ethan being pegged by Jenna, while Nats fucked by bbc beside them. while being fucked, Ethan and Nats can kiss each other. when Ethan cum from being pegged by Jenna, BBC at the same time creampie Nats etc etc


or it can also be a bit of femdom. Jenna hypnotizing/therapy Ethan into being a cuckold, benefit of cuckold etc etc while Nats being fucked by big cock and creampie in front of them. can also include SPH and light humiliation.

 

[exsomon]

Nat will be a gym trainer, worst case a scene with an overweight yupie
best case a gangbang with steroid abusers just on juice

 

[dian091]

What would be the best scene for Nat's debut in his new job?
a threesome with a new character, lesbian sex or female domination where they spank Ethan and have reverse sex with him, any better idea?

Maybe a replay of the swinger party so we have the same actors but this time, the men either cream pie Nat or cum on her face. Ethan this time only watches online. The new gym scene maybe we see the BBC from the party also belongs to Darrell's gym and they both cum on her face and creampie sexy Nat.

 

[pango173]

today again playe4d for the 10 time. still one of the best games and its so simple. others need magic, orcs, trolls, fantasy. this is just straight and its perfect