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Hello bro, what does the abbreviations "jel +1, ang +1 dar1, lust +1" mean? Thanks in advance for your help
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Probably most French films from the 1960's. Just kidding. Maybe. I think that a lack of enjoyment by the woman would ruin both fetishes. The cuckold would be denied his angst and the stag would be deprived of his comperson. Perhaps if her man was a sadist he would enjoy the fact that he could induce her to do something she doesn't like. It is like something that Hitchcock would be interested in. He was very interested in unemotional women incapable of enjoying sex.
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I'm sure there is a word for it, there is a word for everything these days. Out right cheating behind your partners back, forcing one of the couple to have sex, or having one 'take one for the team' are unacceptable behaviours in the cuckold communities I have been involved in. Its considered a couples sport and couples to do it together willingly or not at all. I hope that helps
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Ian meets her if you choose to pursue the job path.
Not a lack of enjoyment, but that her enjoyment comes from pleasing the partner (i.e. her husband).
If you look at the QoS, she gets pleasure from the race play. Or size play. Or the cheating fantasy. The disparity between the bull and the lover. The humiliation. But take that all away.
A situation where the woman participates because she wants to please her husband. Sure, she is going to hopefully achieve some sexual pleasure in the act itself. These aren't altruistic, selfless women. But the reason she entered the lifestyle and continues to do so is because it brings her husband such great pleasure.
True, we seem to want to label everything these days and everything has to have a special status. Look at the discussion between "types" of cuckolding. Someone will eventually insist that they aren't a "xxxx" cuckold.
My lifestyle experience comes from two completely different points of view, a personal and a professional. On the personal side of things, my entire experience has been from couples who play together. They have incredibly strong marriages, and often strong jealousy. They just learn to control and compartmentalize it. None of my personal experiences come from anyone who engages in race play, or any other 'more extreme' form of the lifestyle. They seem to be healthy, well-adjusted people and couples.
The stereotypes represented in the visual novel are not even close to healthy. And with good reason. That does not make for a good dramatic story. Although I would argue that many people who are in the lifestyle or enjoy the fantasy of it want to see the healthy aspect of it in visual novels.
My introduction to swinging was through a couple who had a reluctant wife, which is quite common. They have been doing it for nearly 20 years now. While she does it willingly and enjoys the sex, what truly gets her off is how her husband responds to watching her. The happiness it brings him. And his horniness goes into overdrive afterwards. Which feeds hers even more. And that piece is what makes them so strong. When they "reunite" they are like 20-year-olds on their honeymoon. She could walk away at any time and be equally as happy in their lives.
So, we have all these names for the types of fetishes that surround the themes in this game. And we've been talking about mostly the dysfunctional aspects of what is going on between the couple. Which highlighted even deeper sexual themes of cheating, cuckolding, etc. that are occurring in the game. And naturally, I think a lot of us have been wondering from the beginning why it has taken the path it has taken. Fortunately, there have been some really nice explanations from people who enjoy those darker themes. Themes that, when I was faced with those choices made me want to kick Natalie's ass out and never look back. And to King's credit, he has provided a path for those of us who feel that way!!!
If only I could write English like that. This game is one of my inspirations
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Ethan has to go to the job interview, it doesn't matter whether with or without Nat.
I need to disagree. These aren't mutually exclusive paths. A 'swinger cuckold' like you describe (doesnt mind what kind of guy is fucking his girl) basically doesn't exist. Every cucks that I met (net or real life) enjoy a roleplay like 'being weakest link in a threesome', so bull role is a universal role. Weakness can be stamina or size dick or nothing... the roleplay sumarized: he just like to see the other guy being prefered by his wife while she have both options. Obviously, I met swingers, guys who doesn't like any element of submission, but these guys sounds more "predators" than 'cucks', the main goal for they isnt watch their girl, but fmf threesomes or even couple exchange.
We need to be attentive to understand. When I was young, my first kink was group sex and MFM sharing. Then, I watched a video where a white guy share his wife (participating, not like a reclaiming) with a black guy, then i got jealousy and aroused. It was like a sharing turning cuckolding. Amazing. That was my first time enjoying cuckolding, but I still reject mainstream cuckolding videos from cum eating AND cuckold sessions, the biggest producers of content. I take a lot of hours looking for videos where one guy share his girl with other guy, without humiliation, submission, but yet videos where the girl testing both and showing the preference for the other guy. Now I understand. I was looking for a long story, characters development, things that pornography couldn't offer, except in THIS (sexgames) universe. Recently, I started to watch these porns, but I look for videos that sounds like a routine. So, I literally enjoy both ways that you describe and I can assure that most guys too.
The sociopath hotwife, the simp cuck, the black bull... I lived cuckolding in real life and I see these things doesn't makes sense. These things are just a stereotype created by pornography to give quick answers for the fetish. Extremely vanilla.
Also I believe that supply own demands are the goal in relationship for any person in the world, the real question is: what are the motivations of a cuckold, a hotwife?
I suggest these for a cuckold:
1st Any cuckold live on a tightrope. His desire can broke his woman's desire for him;
2nd he NEEDs to be powerful and formidable to avoid bad endings;
3rs if he's not powerful or formidable enough he should be cautious;
4th as powerful he is, as deeper his limits (we agree about this)
5th cucks have a polygamy desire like any person, but he prefer to corrupts womans in a hotwife role;
6th a cuck can be a virtuous guy who stay faithful to his relationship (don't break the rules of the relationship) or can cheating
7th many guys don't have courage enough to stop the relationship, guys can cheat, but the regular guy care a lot for his partner, so... A normal guy can literally use these things that natalia did in recent updates to motivates a break in their relationship. I wouldn't forgive her, like the legend nurikabe said there
these demands for a hotwife:
1st powerful cuck is closed to a faithful route. powerful bull is closed to a heavy corrupted route.
2nd take the attention + VALIDATION (satisfy the husband and the bull) from a strong guy is better than sex itself
3rd Selection. Women are selective. Women have the power of sexual\natural selection in their hands. BNWO = bullshit. The real selection valuates social prestige, interest of other females, hardwork, safety and comfort for the kids, good body, smartness. But obviously when we talk about sex, the perfect partner would be like a human sextoy, high stamina, good body, etc.
is this sexual selection the regular cuckold is looking for
4th she needs to understand herself. A lot of womans doesn't know how cum. Obviously a hotwife needs a strong 'self' sense.
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I think from a purely male perspective people have a tendency to compare themselves to others. No matter what kind of guy you are, even if you're at your physical peak there is always someone "better" that's just how things work. Eventually the difference comes down to personality and how well people click with chemistry.
I think the debate around cuckolding is interesting and multifaceted. Everyone has their own preferences.
I came to cuckolding as a fetish very late. It started out as an intense sexual gratification from having conversations with my female friends about their sex lives and hearing details about how they got into sexual situations that turned me on immensely. Since then I think it's safe to say I've been a bit of a voyeur. I get off on stuff like when I'm traveling and I start hearing loud sex from the neighboring hotel rooms.
My cuckolding fetish is born out of our current social taboos about cheating and promiscuous women.
It turns me on to see a woman doing something she "isn't supposed to" for her sexual gratification.
The fact that a cuckold has to stay monogamous while his partner has sex with other people to me is extremely exciting because from a positive perspective she cares enough that it would hurt her to see you sleeping with others so she still wants you to be hers and in her life while simultaneously despite all the sex she's having with others you still matter to her. Her coming back despite sexual variety means there's a deeper, stronger bond that isn't broken with superficial physical desires. So in that sense my cuckolding fetish is very selfish. It may seem like I'm giving up a lot, but emotionally I'm the centre of her attention. She wants me to watch her getting off and likes that I'm getting off on her getting off. In essence she may be in the throes of sexual passion with another man but I'm still the centre of her world. It's messed up, I get it but ultimately that somehow means a lot more to me than sexual exclusivity.
Ultimately I think real cuckolding is predicated on a deep sense of trust and connection and those relationships are very strong. If you broke up because of cuckolding (rather than personality differences or normal reasons people break up in relationships) then it's likely you were never going to succeed as a couple even without it.
For me I enjoy the humiliation aspect because it frees me from "responsibility". In other words I don't need to perform, I don't need to meet an expectation, the bar gets set artificially low such that I get to get off on her having sex and getting pleasure without having to think about my own performance in the process.
I have seen and dated a lot of women in my life, cuckolding creates an artificial scarcity that makes me desire the hotwife in ways I normally wouldn't if she was just "mine". I get off on seeing or hearing her have sex in perspectives and situations I normally wouldn't be able to experience because I am directly involved in the situation. Ultimately years of unconscious conditioning from watching porn allows me to experience a form of sex I'm "used to" compared to being directly involved in it.
I'm well endowed, I am at least decent in sex and occupying the "junior" role in a threesome where I sit back and watch isn't about my shortcomings perceived or otherwise. But I love to pretend that I'm sexually inadequate because it gives me a dopamine rush, I like temporarily being induced into wanting something I can't have and seeing someone else get it and then getting my release later after she's had her turn.
It's all about vicarious pleasure from a varied experience that is different from yours, seeing a woman fully give into her lust and break every social more that requires her to restrain her sexual behavior and ultimately exploring the worst case scenarios associated with jealousy to their final conclusion only to see that despite everything you as a couple are still here and still going strong.
The creampie eating fetish is a degrading humiliation, yes , but for me it's more about the symbolic consumption of her sex act to make it a part of you. Sort of like those voodoo stereotypes where you consume someone's heart to take their power. It's kinda like that. You sort of vicariously make the sex a part of you and that's thrilling. I will acknowledge I never did that in real life and while i'd try it once I think there's a good chance I might not like the real thing compared to the idea of it all and that's fine. You live and learn.
Everyone is different and I think our relentless desire to catalogue and categorize content kinda runs counter to the fact that real life relationships involving stuff like "cuckolding" are so fluid it can be hard to categorize.
Some people when they hear cuckolding thinkg "Chastity cages, creampie eating and humililation"
Others think "One sided polyamory and compersion"
Others yet think "Swinging" in the most basic of tenses.
all are equally correct and all of them are interchangable. It just depends on your mood.
I for example have been riding out the extreme cuckolding route in the game and enjoying it. Would I want to be married to a 100% black owned wife where I'm in chastity and never get sex? No probably not. Far more likely we'd play with a regular bull once in a while and in between that we'd have a normal ass relationship where we still have sex.
But I'm also interested in varied and different experiences. I'll be playing the fuck out of the pending Riya route because I'm also interested in the drama of Ethan and Nat breaking up with Ethan finding a "better" woman in Riya.
Long story short. Enjoying certain sex acts and fantasies doesn't automatically fully commit you to a specific label like cuckold or gay. Those are shorthand ways to categorize things so you don't have to write essays about them.
I think getting cucked is only pathetic or weak if it's something that is being done to you against your will and you lack the self respect to put a stop to this behavior or leave the situation. If you believe in yourself, know you are good enough and have self esteem you can do whatever the fuck you want, including humiliation roleplay and come out of it feeling fine.
If you genuinely truly believe you are a pathetic loser, who doesn't deserve pussy, who is otherwise unlovable or inadequate. Then you need therapy, not cuckolding. Your opinion of yourself is the only one that matters. Be kind to you and others will do the same.
I think the debate around cuckolding is interesting and multifaceted. Everyone has their own preferences.
I came to cuckolding as a fetish very late. It started out as an intense sexual gratification from having conversations with my female friends about their sex lives and hearing details about how they got into sexual situations that turned me on immensely. Since then I think it's safe to say I've been a bit of a voyeur. I get off on stuff like when I'm traveling and I start hearing loud sex from the neighboring hotel rooms.
My cuckolding fetish is born out of our current social taboos about cheating and promiscuous women.
It turns me on to see a woman doing something she "isn't supposed to" for her sexual gratification.
The fact that a cuckold has to stay monogamous while his partner has sex with other people to me is extremely exciting because from a positive perspective she cares enough that it would hurt her to see you sleeping with others so she still wants you to be hers and in her life while simultaneously despite all the sex she's having with others you still matter to her. Her coming back despite sexual variety means there's a deeper, stronger bond that isn't broken with superficial physical desires. So in that sense my cuckolding fetish is very selfish. It may seem like I'm giving up a lot, but emotionally I'm the centre of her attention. She wants me to watch her getting off and likes that I'm getting off on her getting off. In essence she may be in the throes of sexual passion with another man but I'm still the centre of her world. It's messed up, I get it but ultimately that somehow means a lot more to me than sexual exclusivity.
Ultimately I think real cuckolding is predicated on a deep sense of trust and connection and those relationships are very strong. If you broke up because of cuckolding (rather than personality differences or normal reasons people break up in relationships) then it's likely you were never going to succeed as a couple even without it.
For me I enjoy the humiliation aspect because it frees me from "responsibility". In other words I don't need to perform, I don't need to meet an expectation, the bar gets set artificially low such that I get to get off on her having sex and getting pleasure without having to think about my own performance in the process.
I have seen and dated a lot of women in my life, cuckolding creates an artificial scarcity that makes me desire the hotwife in ways I normally wouldn't if she was just "mine". I get off on seeing or hearing her have sex in perspectives and situations I normally wouldn't be able to experience because I am directly involved in the situation. Ultimately years of unconscious conditioning from watching porn allows me to experience a form of sex I'm "used to" compared to being directly involved in it.
I'm well endowed, I am at least decent in sex and occupying the "junior" role in a threesome where I sit back and watch isn't about my shortcomings perceived or otherwise. But I love to pretend that I'm sexually inadequate because it gives me a dopamine rush, I like temporarily being induced into wanting something I can't have and seeing someone else get it and then getting my release later after she's had her turn.
It's all about vicarious pleasure from a varied experience that is different from yours, seeing a woman fully give into her lust and break every social more that requires her to restrain her sexual behavior and ultimately exploring the worst case scenarios associated with jealousy to their final conclusion only to see that despite everything you as a couple are still here and still going strong.
The creampie eating fetish is a degrading humiliation, yes , but for me it's more about the symbolic consumption of her sex act to make it a part of you. Sort of like those voodoo stereotypes where you consume someone's heart to take their power. It's kinda like that. You sort of vicariously make the sex a part of you and that's thrilling. I will acknowledge I never did that in real life and while i'd try it once I think there's a good chance I might not like the real thing compared to the idea of it all and that's fine. You live and learn.
Everyone is different and I think our relentless desire to catalogue and categorize content kinda runs counter to the fact that real life relationships involving stuff like "cuckolding" are so fluid it can be hard to categorize.
Some people when they hear cuckolding thinkg "Chastity cages, creampie eating and humililation"
Others think "One sided polyamory and compersion"
Others yet think "Swinging" in the most basic of tenses.
all are equally correct and all of them are interchangable. It just depends on your mood.
I for example have been riding out the extreme cuckolding route in the game and enjoying it. Would I want to be married to a 100% black owned wife where I'm in chastity and never get sex? No probably not. Far more likely we'd play with a regular bull once in a while and in between that we'd have a normal ass relationship where we still have sex.
But I'm also interested in varied and different experiences. I'll be playing the fuck out of the pending Riya route because I'm also interested in the drama of Ethan and Nat breaking up with Ethan finding a "better" woman in Riya.
Long story short. Enjoying certain sex acts and fantasies doesn't automatically fully commit you to a specific label like cuckold or gay. Those are shorthand ways to categorize things so you don't have to write essays about them.
I think getting cucked is only pathetic or weak if it's something that is being done to you against your will and you lack the self respect to put a stop to this behavior or leave the situation. If you believe in yourself, know you are good enough and have self esteem you can do whatever the fuck you want, including humiliation roleplay and come out of it feeling fine.
If you genuinely truly believe you are a pathetic loser, who doesn't deserve pussy, who is otherwise unlovable or inadequate. Then you need therapy, not cuckolding. Your opinion of yourself is the only one that matters. Be kind to you and others will do the same.
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A very well put together and thought out post. My wife and I aren't in to the humiliation aspect. Its not our thing, but we have no issues with others doing it. Basically, I like to watch her, she loves me watching her and we love the reclaiming sex afterwards.
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Do any feelings about the "forbidden fruit" aspect of it, stir your coffee? Or do feel some innate jealousy even now?
I'm like in the camp; it's better than watching porn because you don't have any mutual connection with a pornstar like you and your partner do, so you can tell it's not acting. For me, watching my wife giving a blowjob to a guy, the first time, was exciting and confusing at the same time.
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For her the forbidden fruit plays a factor, not so much for me. I definitely deal with jealousy at times, often I have none at all, it depends on my state of mind at the time. We have few rules, but one we do have, if one of us says no then its all stop, no questions asked. We do talk about it later of course. Far less regret saying no then doing something that can damage us. Its an essenital safety valve.
Yeah I love it. I'm not married but If I was I'd love to have wife that would let me watch her suck a dude's dick or fuck him in front of me. Or even spend an entire evening fucking him while I only get to listen and hear a story about it after while she jerks me off. It's a massive thrill and having open heart to heart conversations about the whole thing after to ensure everyone's in good shape is essential and very sexy in itself. This kinda stuff is messy but it can work if everyone is on the same page.
What you don't want is a situation where her sense of selfworth is derived from another man's penis. That just invites chaos and disaster because her own insecurities hide what her true feelings and values are.
What you don't want is a situation where her sense of selfworth is derived from another man's penis. That just invites chaos and disaster because her own insecurities hide what her true feelings and values are.
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Yeah, that would be a psychological disaster for a woman (or anyone).
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A mind numbing reward
Ethan watched in awe as Nat finally pulled her mouth off his softening dick.
A sticky string of cum and saliva ran from the tip of her tongue to the tip of his penis.
That was the only remnant of the huge orgasm Nat's mouth had forced out of him.
Ethan felt that with this kind of reward, she could make him agree to anything she wants.
Ethan watched in awe as Nat finally pulled her mouth off his softening dick.
A sticky string of cum and saliva ran from the tip of her tongue to the tip of his penis.
That was the only remnant of the huge orgasm Nat's mouth had forced out of him.
Ethan felt that with this kind of reward, she could make him agree to anything she wants.
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