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WendyTheRed

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Wow. I've played this module a couple of times and each and every time I found myself thinking "if only this was in a less cumbersome game engine."
 
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Mercedes

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Hmm, so judging by the actual content, it's actually a pretty normal story that's been read umpteen times before.
A young, innocent girl is forced to use sex to make ends meet. Have fun with a hand in your pants, folks!
But if you look a little past the ordinary, some very good writing comes out now and then, and a few moments later you're reading all too often as if there were two authors.
A good start, but you have to wait for the further development.

And then again there are logic gaps in the story that don't seem quite conclusive.
A well-known tailor wants 40 gold for newly tailored beggar's clothes made of the best materials. A beggar, on the other hand, 50 gold coins for his dirty clothes, while the merchant in the tavern has just received 55 gold coins for selling his geese (that's how much MC could gamble and steal)? How many geese was he able to sell? Especially if you count the proceeds from the sale with the cost of lodging and food for the trip there and back?
Here, the monetary system seems not quite mature.
What does a meal in the tavern cost, if the gold coin seems to be the only coin?
1 gold = 10 silver = 100 copper would be more appropriate here. And a beggar who demands 50 silver to be able to be full and drunk for a week (even if only with cheap food and booze). At the same time, why can our heroine have 5 gold, when her clothes and panties were stolen (you can see this in the savegame editor)? So where did she hide it? Yes, a woman has more hiding places than a man, but in her original situation she shouldn't have known this trick.

I also think that some dialogue options chosen should make later dialogue impossible. If MC is still the angsty bunny in the castle, how can she already be a frivolous bitch a few days later that is verbally assertive with Trissa? This would again fit better if MC was already played as an assertive lady in the castle.

It sounds like harsh criticism, but I've been playing P&P RPGs on PC and console for over 30 years. So this should be taken as a well-meaning critique of what needs to be worked on to make the world more coherent. Just browse through a few rulebooks of old P&P and put together a coherent framework for the world you want to create. It's as easy as you think, and it also makes it easier to integrate future content into the game.
I recommend DSA - The Black Eye (3 coin units).
Here's a link to a cost of living page, but in German. And yes, it's not perfect either.
 

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TrustyOldPatches

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Hmm, so judging by the actual content, it's actually a pretty normal story that's been read umpteen times before.
A young, innocent girl is forced to use sex to make ends meet. Have fun with a hand in your pants, folks!
But if you look a little past the ordinary, some very good writing comes out now and then, and a few moments later you're reading all too often as if there were two authors.
A good start, but you have to wait for the further development.

And then again there are logic gaps in the story that don't seem quite conclusive.
A well-known tailor wants 40 gold for newly tailored beggar's clothes made of the best materials. A beggar, on the other hand, 50 gold coins for his dirty clothes, while the merchant in the tavern has just received 55 gold coins for selling his geese (that's how much MC could gamble and steal)? How many geese was he able to sell? Especially if you count the proceeds from the sale with the cost of lodging and food for the trip there and back?
Here, the monetary system seems not quite mature.
What does a meal in the tavern cost, if the gold coin seems to be the only coin?
1 gold = 10 silver = 100 copper would be more appropriate here. And a beggar who demands 50 silver to be able to be full and drunk for a week (even if only with cheap food and booze). At the same time, why can our heroine have 5 gold, when her clothes and panties were stolen (you can see this in the savegame editor)? So where did she hide it? Yes, a woman has more hiding places than a man, but in her original situation she shouldn't have known this trick.

I also think that some dialogue options chosen should make later dialogue impossible. If MC is still the angsty bunny in the castle, how can she already be a frivolous bitch a few days later that is verbally assertive with Trissa? This would again fit better if MC was already played as an assertive lady in the castle.

It sounds like harsh criticism, but I've been playing P&P RPGs on PC and console for over 30 years. So this should be taken as a well-meaning critique of what needs to be worked on to make the world more coherent. Just browse through a few rulebooks of old P&P and put together a coherent framework for the world you want to create. It's as easy as you think, and it also makes it easier to integrate future content into the game.
I recommend DSA - The Black Eye (3 coin units).
Here's a link to a cost of living page, but in German. And yes, it's not perfect either.
Thanks for the feedback!

About the money that the tailor ask for vs the beggar, I see it as the beggar asking for an outrageous amount, because he's really not expecting to get that money, but instead want to take adventage of the princess.

I tried to keep the gold thing simple, but indeed a bit of a rework might be in order.

And about the princess being more sassy with Trissa, I see it as a result of the situations that she is in. Back in the castle she's seeing all the world she knew dissapear, I don't think anyone would act sassy in that situation, vs Trissa giving her shit for some silly thing.

The 5 gold thing she doesn't have it from the start, I just initialized the variable at the start of the game because normally the player won't see that variable value.

Again, thanks for the feedback.
 
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Ragnar

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Well the OG is the best porn module I have ever played so let's see.
 

AnyName'llDo

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Got into a loop where I couldn't progress the story because I wasn't willing to go down on a beggar who already lied to me to maybe, if he keeps his word this time, get his clothes. I'd rather just use the weapon Chella gave me, and take the clothes by force. Dude got to see and fondle a fine set of boobs. He should count himself lucky if he were to just get threatened, or rapped in the head for reneging on the deal. Anyway, I quit the game at this point.
 

TrustyOldPatches

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Got into a loop where I couldn't progress the story because I wasn't willing to go down on a beggar who already lied to me to maybe, if he keeps his word this time, get his clothes. I'd rather just use the weapon Chella gave me, and take the clothes by force. Dude got to see and fondle a fine set of boobs. He should count himself lucky if he were to just get threatened, or rapped in the head for reneging on the deal. Anyway, I quit the game at this point.
Might be a bug on my part, I think I implemented a path to use the weapon without having to do anything with him. I'll check that.
 
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Zedire

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Man, I miss the old NWN1 mods. Hope this reimagining does ADWR justice, especially Vico - I loved that bastard!

EDIT: btw, will this reimagining still have the romances in it? I'm hoping so but didn't see a tag for it?
 
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Joe Steel

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Looks really good! I think that the characters here are much better looking than the one in Brides. It's also great that more people can be exposed to this great story.

Are you planning to do both games?
 

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Overview:
This is the story of a young woman whose world is shattered into pieces on a single, dark night. Formerly Princess of a mighty Kingdom, she barely survives when the enemies of her Lord Father kill her family, her loved ones, her friends. Suddenly alone in a cruel world, hiding from those people who only wish to see her dead, she finds help where she’d least expect it. Sheltered by a group of thugs and thieves, her life now takes a very different line. But her enemies remain the same.
Thread Updated: 2023-10-31
Release Date: 2023-10-31
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Version: 0.1
OS: Windows
Language: English
Other Games: The Goblin's Brides
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This is looking great. It has some of my favorite tags and future tags coming up. Good luck, keep up the good work. On the bestiality tag, would love to see you include dogs and horses.
 

Joe Steel

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One very minor complaint: Vico doesn't look here like he is described in the mod, where he was more slim and dapper. This Vico is kinda pudgy.
 

TrustyOldPatches

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Man, I miss the old NWN1 mods. Hope this reimagining does ADWR justice, especially Vico - I loved that bastard!

EDIT: btw, will this reimagining still have the romances in it? I'm hoping so but didn't see a tag for it?
Yeah, it will have the romances.
 
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TrustyOldPatches

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Looks really good! I think that the characters here are much better looking than the one in Brides. It's also great that more people can be exposed to this great story.

Are you planning to do both games?
For now I'll center on this one. I'll see in the future.
 
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