Ren'Py A Family Venture [v0.09 V1 Beta] [WillTylor]

[nielsen145]

Did Matt or Lauren win?

well Matt won on my game, even though paid a crap ton of money each week, but the event 68 is still there lol

 

[Davidsdoom1350]

At a guess, something is getting grabbed by your antivirus. I seem to recall some people having issues with the newer versions of Renpy, so you might want to check through your AV logs (or disable it temporarily and then try to launch the game to see if it works then). There's also a chance there's a conflict with your graphics driver, in which case the only real options are to make sure the driver is up to date and try googling to see if anyone else has had that happen and what they did to resolve it. Which is, really, what you should be doing anyway instead of posting passive aggressive stuff like what I quoted here--the majority of issues like you're seeing are rare interactions between the user's system and Renpy itself, and not a problem with the actual game code.

I figured it out after racking my brain. Seems a driver needed an update to work with the newer version of renpy. Thanks for the ideas of some places to check.

 

[WillTylor]

well Matt won on my game, even though paid a crap ton of money each week, but the event 68 is still there lol

Haha, a lot of people let Matt win because they were terrified of Mom going on a date and getting NTR’ed. I’ve taken some flak for putting that choice in the game because it’s a bit counterintuitive if you’re trying to avoid NTR. But I still stick to my creative choice, and I like the difficulty of the choice. Do you take the risk of Jacky going on a date to guarantee Lauren doesn’t get NTR’ed, or do you sacrifice Lauren to make sure that there isn’t even a sliver of a chance for Jacky to get NTR’ed? I will assure you that you won’t have to worry about Jacky getting NTR’ed from that date. I have no intention on developing school board member Will Tylor any more as a character. I’ve already put him into the story more than I intended. I originally put my name into the game as an attempt at self deprecating humor, but then I needed a school board member for Lauren’s story line, and Mr. Tylor was already in the story’s lore. You can always be sure I’m going to try and make NTR avoidable, which is why I created the choice to buy your way out of the bet if Lauren lost.

I thought I fixed the bug with event 68. I’ll have to take a look again.

 

[Mikey Mike]

Can the sister win the election yet? I know about the other option. Thanks.

 

[_Utakata_]

Can the sister win the election yet? I know about the other option. Thanks.

Wondering to Last time i played she lost Even when i kept giving her lot of money

 

[syfy88man]

Can the sister win the election yet? I know about the other option. Thanks.

yes, every monday, see her and give her money in her camp hq, then see ms naughty in her FBI van, and give her money as well, you kill it and be way ahead of him at the end when the voting starts

 

[nielsen145]

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/UpdateScript0.05.rpy", line 6695, in script call
    call screen casinosidneymap
  File "game/UpdateScript0.06.rpy", line 10482, in script call
    call screen casinosidneymap
  File "game/UpdateScript0.06.rpy", line 10752, in script call
    call screen casinosidneymap
  File "game/UpdateScript0.06.rpy", line 10482, in script call
    call screen casinosidneymap
  File "game/UpdateScript0.05.rpy", line 6695, in script call
    call screen casinosidneymap
  File "game/UpdateScript0.06.rpy", line 7228, in script
    menu:
  File "game/screens.rpy", line 206, in execute
  File "game/screens.rpy", line 206, in execute
  File "game/screens.rpy", line 209, in execute
  File "game/screens.rpy", line 210, in execute
  File "game/screens.rpy", line 211, in execute
NameError: Name 'Purp' is not defined.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "images/interface_images/Roulette/RouletteGame.rpyc", line 755, in script call
  File "game/UpdateScript0.05.rpy", line 6695, in script call
    call screen casinosidneymap
  File "images/interface_images/blackjack/blackjack-DS.rpyc", line 385, in script call
  File "images/interface_images/blackjack/blackjack-DS.rpyc", line 480, in script call
  File "images/interface_images/blackjack/blackjack-DS.rpyc", line 385, in script call
  File "images/interface_images/blackjack/blackjack-DS.rpyc", line 480, in script call
  File "game/UpdateScript0.06.rpy", line 10482, in script call
    call screen casinosidneymap
  File "game/UpdateScript0.06.rpy", line 10752, in script call
    call screen casinosidneymap
  File "images/interface_images/blackjack/blackjack-DS.rpyc", line 385, in script call
  File "images/interface_images/blackjack/blackjack-DS.rpyc", line 480, in script call
  File "game/UpdateScript0.06.rpy", line 10482, in script call
    call screen casinosidneymap
  File "images/interface_images/blackjack/blackjack-DS.rpyc", line 480, in script call
  File "game/UpdateScript0.05.rpy", line 6695, in script call
    call screen casinosidneymap
  File "images/interface_images/Roulette/RouletteGame.rpyc", line 750, in script call
  File "game/UpdateScript0.06.rpy", line 7228, in script
    menu:
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1682, in execute
    choice = renpy.exports.menu(choices, self.set, args, kwargs, item_arguments)
  File "renpy/exports.py", line 1062, in menu
    rv = renpy.store.menu(new_items)
  File "renpy/exports.py", line 1298, in display_menu
    rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse='menu', type=type, roll_forward=roll_forward)
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3276, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3693, in interact_core
    root_widget.visit_all(lambda i : i.per_interact())
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 567, in visit_all
    d.visit_all(callback, seen)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 567, in visit_all
    d.visit_all(callback, seen)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 567, in visit_all
    d.visit_all(callback, seen)
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 432, in visit_all
    callback(self)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3693, in <lambda>
    root_widget.visit_all(lambda i : i.per_interact())
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 443, in per_interact
    self.update()
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 631, in update
    self.screen.function(**self.scope)
  File "game/screens.rpy", line 206, in execute
  File "game/screens.rpy", line 206, in execute
  File "game/screens.rpy", line 209, in execute
  File "game/screens.rpy", line 210, in execute
  File "game/screens.rpy", line 211, in execute
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 992, in _textbutton
    text = renpy.text.text.Text(label, style=text_style, substitute=substitute, scope=scope, **text_kwargs)
  File "renpy/text/text.py", line 1541, in __init__
    self.set_text(text, scope, substitute)
  File "renpy/text/text.py", line 1660, in set_text
    i, did_sub = renpy.substitutions.substitute(i, scope, substitute)
  File "renpy/substitutions.py", line 270, in substitute
    s = formatter.vformat(s, (), kwargs)
  File "/home/tom/ab/renpy-build/tmp/install.android-x86_64/lib/python2.7/string.py", line 563, in vformat
  File "/home/tom/ab/renpy-build/tmp/install.android-x86_64/lib/python2.7/string.py", line 585, in _vformat
  File "/home/tom/ab/renpy-build/tmp/install.android-x86_64/lib/python2.7/string.py", line 646, in get_field
  File "/home/tom/ab/renpy-build/tmp/install.android-x86_64/lib/python2.7/string.py", line 605, in get_value
  File "renpy/substitutions.py", line 228, in __getitem__
    raise NameError("Name '{}' is not defined.".format(key))
NameError: Name 'Purp' is not defined.

Windows-10-10.0.17134
Ren'Py 7.4.6.1693
A Family Venture 0.07_beta_supporter
Mon Jul 26 10:11:08 2021

 

[Techn0magier]

I'm not that far into the story yet. [Ryan couldn't find the money in his room to pay the DeCapos thanks to a certain someone.]

So far, a good first draft with high potential. After a few rewrites, it will be a nice sparkly gem of this genre. That's for sure.
The early artwork also needs a redo when compared to more recent screenshots.

Agent Diaz is the kind of antagonist I like to hate. Good job on her. Her introduction itself was a bit hasty but as a B Story Character, her placing into the story timeline was chosen right.

Joey and the DeCapo Family. As A Story creatures, they are too weak for antagonists, yet. If they become more of a threat they clearly have the "beware of the glacier" problem. Also, Joey himself is flat and generic, he doesn't stand out of the crowd of disposable mafia goons we had in the last decades of storytelling. The DeCapo Family is the driving force behind the A Story they deserve to be treated like that. Look at Darth Vader in the original trilogy, that is how an A Story Antagonist is shown off.

Uncle Bobby could need an overhaul. Introduced as a helpful tool and story device and left unused. So writing him out in his current state was not a bad decision. He doesn't fulfil the role he was introduced in and he doesn't anything besides that. So a rewrite would be a good call. Either get rid of him in general, a simple "talk" with Diaz or Joey could serve the same purpose to kickstart the story. Of give Bobby more agency, that justifies his existence.

Cousin Mandy and Aunt Camille I can't say anything about them yet. In my current playthrough, they exist and that's it. Camille appeared once for her rightful tantrum and disappeared after that. And Mandy disappeared after the first photoshoot to be never seen again.

Jacky is from a writers perspective on the same level as Angelina Jolie's Lara Croft or Halle Berrys Catwoman. Nice rack no character. She would probably profit the most from a rewrite next to the MC.

Sydney, her introduction is as well a little bit too hasty. Instead of moving right into the house, her introduction could have either been postponed. Or instead of the whole moving through rooms spiel, the MC could have been the culprit behind her being kicked out of the dorm instead and moved from there to the couch. Also sometimes she shows the same character traits as Lauren. Speech pattern as an example. She could be a little bit more distinguishable from Lauren besides her looks. And maybe she could use a little bit more exaggeration of her archetype traits (Jungian Archetypes). She appears to be a toned-down version of the "Explorer".

Spoiler: The Explorer

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Lauren has similar problems to Sydney. That is why I can't distinguish them sometimes as characters. Especially the similar speech pattern. At the start, I first thought that Lauren and Sydney were both Explorers but from time to time there is a glance of Jester in Lauren which could be what was first envisioned for her. So it could be a good idea to exaggerate some of her traits as well.

Spoiler: Jester

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Ryan is absolutely inconsistent. I know from experience that writing a character development arc for a story with alternative routes is the hardest thing to do. Decisions would need more and finer tracking to make dialogues and choices more consistent. I'm not just talking about situations where Ryan says he has done stuff that he did not yet. He told Sydney for example that he has sold Costumes for good money, which hasn't happened yet in my playthrough. There are choices, that wouldn't fit the character with previous behaviour. For example, Ryan started to be a normal "decent" guy but one telephone call later and you have a different character. Then he is back at the "decent" guy gestalt at the beginning of the first nightclub sequence just to be a totally different character as soon as Jacky dances. Not corrupted/tempted by the dance but a character that was never smth else. So the two approaches I would try out as a rewrite would be either using Ryans "corruption" to be part of his character development arc as well and play around with that or I would let him start off as a hormone-driven guy who doesn't try to hide what he is among people he trusts but try to keep himself in check to be more social agreeable.


Game design and quality check:
There is a reason why forced choices as a concept aren't considered artistic decisions but bad game design.
Choose X or the game just ends, choose X again or the game just ends again. Those are the kind of choices that aren't relevant and therefore not fun. Especially when they revolve around a single B Story character and not the A Story itself. If the decision would have ended the character-specific storyline and its appendages that would be fine b/c it would have an impact and it could lead to replayability. (The core idea of VNs and the main difference compared to KNs.)
The game as a piece of software has issues. And that is no surprise. For every thousand lines of code, there is a major bug. That is just a rule of thumb that seemed always true. And it is a good thing that you deal with them as soon as you get aware of them. But the documentation inside the files is lacklustre so I hope for your sanity that you have written documentation besides the gamefiles. Understanding what your code does is important. When smth like this appears

things could get ugly after a while.


Keep up the good work. In my opinion, the game is on the right track to be a good one.

 

[humanstickobserver]

Normally, I don't view lesbian content as NTR.
And this game is USUALLY good about avoiding NTR, or some unwanted scenes.

I don't want Diaz touching the girls. Just like I don't want mom stripping.

I'm grinding in game to get money, tp pay the club, to pay Diaz, to avoid these things.

So, I'm already a little annoyed the game implies that mom works the club regularly, as she has only done so twice, the first night, and the night Sidney hides the money. It is a little annoying that there is almost no recognition in game, in dialog, that mom isn't on the pole.

But now I hit a Diaz scene where she forces her way into the house, and demands Mandy be part of her plot, and then tells me the girls doubled, so cost doubled.
And I am not given the choice to pay. It is requiring me to go along.
I have more than enough money. There is no good reason for the player to claim he can not play. The game has allowed NTR to be avoided up to this point. Why the fuck is the author throwing this wrench in the works, that takes away our ability to avoid NTR, and takes away our choice to pay the bribe to protect family?

I sincerely hope this scene gets revisited, where the option to, even if it puts you at high financial risk, to choose to pay out still, is put into place.

Diaz is hot. I like lesbian content. My male MC's are almost always willing to share LIs with interested girls.
ALMOST.
When it is extortion that boarders on rape, if I am given a way to avoid that in other scenes, I should not be forced into allowing it to happen despite meeting the criteria to keep it at bay.

 

[strenif]

Normally, I don't view lesbian content as NTR.
And this game is USUALLY good about avoiding NTR, or some unwanted scenes.

I don't want Diaz touching the girls. Just like I don't want mom stripping.

I'm grinding in game to get money, tp pay the club, to pay Diaz, to avoid these things.

So, I'm already a little annoyed the game implies that mom works the club regularly, as she has only done so twice, the first night, and the night Sidney hides the money. It is a little annoying that there is almost no recognition in game, in dialog, that mom isn't on the pole.

But now I hit a Diaz scene where she forces her way into the house, and demands Mandy be part of her plot, and then tells me the girls doubled, so cost doubled.
And I am not given the choice to pay. It is requiring me to go along.
I have more than enough money. There is no good reason for the player to claim he can not play. The game has allowed NTR to be avoided up to this point. Why the fuck is the author throwing this wrench in the works, that takes away our ability to avoid NTR, and takes away our choice to pay the bribe to protect family?

I sincerely hope this scene gets revisited, where the option to, even if it puts you at high financial risk, to choose to pay out still, is put into place.

Diaz is hot. I like lesbian content. My male MC's are almost always willing to share LIs with interested girls.
ALMOST.
When it is extortion that boarders on rape, if I am given a way to avoid that in other scenes, I should not be forced into allowing it to happen despite meeting the criteria to keep it at bay.

As I recall you can pay Diaz off in that scene. If you do you untie Lauren who hasn't been touched yet and her and Mandy thank you. Or you can not pay and Diaz has Mandy spank Lauren while you and Diaz watch. Ether way Diaz never touches ether of the girls.

 

[strenif]

Can the sister win the election yet? I know about the other option. Thanks.

Yes.

well Matt won on my game, even though paid a crap ton of money each week, but the event 68 is still there lol

Wondering to Last time i played she lost Even when i kept giving her lot of money

Sounds like you both didn't get the school board member to approve the uniform change. You HAVE to do that if you want Lauren to win the vote. If you don't then you have to pay Matt 4k to take a dive.

 

[Trikus]

I know things in the narrative have to happen a certain way, but I just want to know how much money the father owes the mafia. Thanks to playing roulette in the club I'm a millionaire so I find it funny that I'm only paying off the debt in small instalments.

 

[strenif]

I know things in the narrative have to happen a certain way, but I just want to know how much money the father owes the mafia. Thanks to playing roulette in the club I'm a millionaire so I find it funny that I'm only paying off the debt in small instalments.

Well.

We know that an intrest only payment a week is $1000.00 but we don't know what the interest rate is.

 

[avn10.6.8]

how do progress on the sister election because i can't give her money for some reason?

 

[strenif]

how do progress on the sister election because i can't give her money for some reason?

She'll only ask for money once a week at the election HQ.

 

[caxhub]

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[humanstickobserver]

As I recall you can pay Diaz off in that scene. If you do you untie Lauren who hasn't been touched yet and her and Mandy thank you. Or you can not pay and Diaz has Mandy spank Lauren while you and Diaz watch. Ether way Diaz never touches ether of the girls.

I stopped right before the scene began, and wrote my comment, so after playing it... you're right, in that it is a small scene where Diaz doesn't touch either girl, so in that, I over reacted.

But the game seemed scripted to tell me that I had to let it happen. When Diaz tells me how much, I'm given no choices. Just told "I can't afford that," and given a simple 2 option screen, to decide which girl gets spanked.

After that, the following week I was allowed to pay her off. But despite having over $8,000 when the scene happened, it simply had MC say "I can't afford that," and the scene played out. So, I donno.


EDIT: OK, so, I usually just skip the Diaz scene on thursday. This time, I did it, and I got an error, and when I told renpy to ignore, it defaulted to the "I can't pay" option. However, if, when given the chance to skip the Diaz scene, I choose to skip it, I can choose to have the result be that I paid her, because I had the money to.
So, there seems to be some script error I'm dealing with, when playing the scene, that it taking away the choice to pay?

 

[deniscapo]

I stuk in event 64 66 69
error in thursday wehn Agent Diaz coming the option pay or action not abalibre

 

[strenif]

I stopped right before the scene began, and wrote my comment, so after playing it... you're right, in that it is a small scene where Diaz doesn't touch either girl, so in that, I over reacted.

But the game seemed scripted to tell me that I had to let it happen. When Diaz tells me how much, I'm given no choices. Just told "I can't afford that," and given a simple 2 option screen, to decide which girl gets spanked.

After that, the following week I was allowed to pay her off. But despite having over $8,000 when the scene happened, it simply had MC say "I can't afford that," and the scene played out. So, I donno.


EDIT: OK, so, I usually just skip the Diaz scene on thursday. This time, I did it, and I got an error, and when I told renpy to ignore, it defaulted to the "I can't pay" option. However, if, when given the chance to skip the Diaz scene, I choose to skip it, I can choose to have the result be that I paid her, because I had the money to.
So, there seems to be some script error I'm dealing with, when playing the scene, that it taking away the choice to pay?

It does seem like you are suffering from some kind of bug. Try deleting your persistent file in your save folder. You should have been given an option to pay the first time around.

 

[deniscapo]

ok is de mod bug the game