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Ren'Py A Family Venture [v0.09 V1 Beta] [WillTylor]

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thealucid

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yamabear said:
Another weekend ... some effective forecast?:(
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It sounds like everything is done except the scripting. Will could probably bang that out in a weekend if he had nothing else to do. So I'd take his word for it that he's just dealing with family matters right now. So no ETA beyond it'll be done once he can work on it.
 
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thealucid said:
It sounds like everything is done except the scripting. Will could probably bang that out in a weekend if he had nothing else to do. So I'd take his word for it that he's just dealing with family matters right now. So no ETA beyond it'll be done once he can work on it.
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Heh you said "bang that out". Nice.
 
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Bobbylee69 said:
I did though... there are 3 books right? And the final scene is Jackie submission 25+. Unless there is something else because I've finished all available quests (including the 6 outfits one). Thanks for responding!
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so you had photoshoot with Jackie and Megan I asume ?
 
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Not really. Nobody's life is perfect and we All have stretches where things just don't go right. Some people have good family relationships, others are crappy. Some people have jobs today then will be laid off tomorrow. I have a sibling who had a job for 15 years but was laid off several months ago because of company downsizing. It's called LIFE. If a dev like Will Tylor has been consistent with work and says that things have come up, I'm willing to be considerate. There are a Lot of others out there who have a history of scamming so I won't take them at their word. Also remember, a lot of these folks, devs And mods, Don't have to make any of their works public. Just be patient and if you can't, create your own works. That way you can have what you want, how you want it, when you want it.
 
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MEMUAR said:
It's amazing how devs always are so unlucky with personal matters
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While for some, it's doubtful they'd try milking too much, from patreon, he's only making a little over 2K/months.
While it is a nice enough sum, it's probably not enough to live comfortably either, so, he most likely still rely on a normal day time job as well.

I mean, I wouldn't prioritize the game with that kind of revenue, since there's no guarantee next month's income would be the same or enough to live on.

So, since as far as I know, it's not a common thing for him to do, I'll certainly be giving the benefits of the doubt this time.
Keep in mind that most devs in here, saves a few, can't make a living out of their patreon/subcribestar income, and as such, can not prioritize it over everything else :)
 
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MEMUAR said:
It's amazing how devs always are so unlucky with personal matters
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Yes in every update, he is losing credibility each time.

doccop63 said:
Not really. Nobody's life is perfect and we All have stretches where things just don't go right. Some people have good family relationships, others are crappy. Some people have jobs today then will be laid off tomorrow. I have a sibling who had a job for 15 years but was laid off several months ago because of company downsizing. It's called LIFE. If a dev like Will Tylor has been consistent with work and says that things have come up, I'm willing to be considerate. There are a Lot of others out there who have a history of scamming so I won't take them at their word. Also remember, a lot of these folks, devs And mods, Don't have to make any of their works public. Just be patient and if you can't, create your own works. That way you can have what you want, how you want it, when you want it.
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One thing is having life and problems and another is ALWAYS problems, im expecting: "My dog ate the homework" excuse for the next update. And if its true that real life is interfering with the game and making you look like a person that cant be trusted in front of your followers, would be better to pause it or abandon it instead of disapoint people expectations. If you are too busy dont embark in such a project.

I like him, he seems a good guy, and i like the game, but its been many times of broken promises. Its normal that people doubts about him. We are at at moth of delay, supposing it would come at mid August. Its very very weird that he tells everytime that the update is sooooooooooooo close, but he is 1 month behind and cannot close it.

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Proof of Life Sept 11th
Hey guys, I know it's only been a week since my last post, but I answered a question on Discord that I thought you would all be interested in hearing the explanation.
[Q: Hate to be that guy but Will said he would give us updates when he finished some of those "few hour" tasks he had to do, Its been 6 days and nothing
A: Yeah, sorry there's been no update, and the reason is that I still haven't even finished task one. And it's not because I haven't been working on it. One of the disadvantages to creating a non-linear AVN is that new events affect all the other repeatable events, so adding a new event isn't just as simple as scripting a new event. In the event of Jacky having sex with her son, now it affects everything from how she reacts when she sees him at breakfast, to when he rescues her from the mafia, to every time he knocks on her door, sees her as school, asks her to come to another photoshoot, rubs one out on her own etc... As much as I enjoy game development, this part of it is a fucking slog to get through. Right now there are almost 27,000 lines of code for the 0.08 update alone, and over 102,000 lines just in the scripts that I'm having to go through looking for these instances where I need to adjust the dialogue for this new event. Unfortunately how long this is taking kind of took me by surprise. I didn't budget enough time in my estimates for how long this was going to take. Good news is that I think I'm just about through it. I'll probably finish that part of the update tomorrow or the next day, and the other tasks I have listed won't take nearly this long. This explanation is kind of long, and I probably should make a formal post about it.]
Sorry, if I get really silent for a while, it either means I'm working really hard, or dealing with personal shit, and luckily this week it's meant working really hard. Oh, and I'm not trying to call out the guy who asked the question at all, (Coughs KingKoopa) It's a totally reasonable question to ask at this point.

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mammoth123 said:
Yes in every update, he is losing credibility each time.

One thing is having life and problems and another is ALWAYS problems, im expecting: "My dog ate the homework" excuse for the next update. And if its true that real life is interfering with the game and making you look like a person that cant be trusted in front of your followers, would be better to pause it or abandon it instead of disapoint people expectations. If you are too busy dont embark in such a project.

I like him, he seems a good guy, and i like the game, but its been many times of broken promises. Its normal that people doubts about him. We are at at moth of delay, supposing it would come at mid August. Its very very weird that he tells everytime that the update is sooooooooooooo close, but he is 1 month behind and cannot close it.
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This all would be true if this were my full time job, but this is my part time hobby that I choose to work on whenever I have time. All the deadlines I'm missing aren't really deadlines at all, and they aren't promises. They're all self imposed goals that I share with my supporters to give them an idea of what I am aiming for. The only promise I make is that I promise to work as hard on this project as my free time allows. I don't ever try to hide this fact, and I try to be open and transparent about why I often miss my goals. Because my supporters are not my employers, I don't have to make up excuses about why I miss these self imposed deadlines, but I share personal details of my life because of the respect and gratitude I have for all of them. And yes, sometimes life can get fucking rough. If you don't believe in rough patches, just wait until you go through one. I've been an Athiest for much of my adult life, but recent events are making me wonder about the existence of a God, and whether he's punishing me for creating a porn game.
 
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The average user of this forum are NEETs with no real problems and they believe that others are like that too. Otherwise I don't understand how they can't understand that people have problems and that we all have periods of time where we have a very bad time.

And Will, whatever problems you are having in your life you have my support and if at any time the development of the game becomes too much for you or something , you should take a break and some time for yourself. Nothing is more important than your mental health.
 
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