Fair points. Someone just pointed point that I am reading too much into the character, and I am guilty of that, for sure. I had to go back and read lots of posts about the MC and people's complaints about him. They are right, when I think about him without my own added dimensionality.
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I do that a LOT! I sometimes find myself paused on a single render for a long time, imagining many lines of dialog that COULD have been written. I feel like that might be the hallmark of a good character concept, but poor character development.
In any event, I often have the script files open in a text editor, whenever I play a game coded in Ren'Py
It makes me feel better to have the characters ACTUALLY say the things I think they SHOULD say!
hahaha
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Sorry, but you have the heard the phrase behind every great man lies an even greater woman? This is actually indedibly true throughout the relationships, cultures and the world. Also actually factually well known that many a great king in medieval times was advised by his wife as they were the voice of reason and not duh bash/kill shit (we're talking women of noblity, not commoners from the street).
If going to try and counter-argue, at least do so with facts please.
For all other comments, please play the devs last game. There is nothing complex here, won't be. Simple fun love story with multiple people. We know from what has happened so far that Lydia at some point will sleep with the MC, will probably have a threesome with MC/Cathy...possibly even a foursome with Alice involved. Everyone will be happy after after...that's what this dev does. Move on now if that's a problem are you're insecure with your wife deflowering a (minor) LI before you do.
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Henry VIII? Though you are right even then a smart guy listened to his wive if she had brains. Their legal position was pretty bad and their official rights almost none unless they had family that were prepared to force those rights by violence that they had not in any other way.
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You said absolute right, some of them was ADVISED, not ruled, also that was rare, most of royality have male advisors. A royal female yes, have really high regard, even more if is queen, but you never hear a king saying "yes my love" and beggin a war because of the queen said so. Our problem is not about Cathy fucking the girl, is the mc being a empty shell, what kind of lord is that?
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AlexTorch, post: what kind of lord is that?
CLL: Cuckold Lesbian Lord.
CLL: Cuckold Lesbian Lord.
LOL wow, now that is gaming dedication!In any event, I often have the script files open in a text editor, whenever I play a game coded in Ren'Py
It makes me feel better to have the characters ACTUALLY say the things I think they SHOULD say!
hahaha
I really liked this game and ALL of the characters.
But after the last few updates .... yeah, somebody mentioned groundhog day.
Characters and relationship building are important and I don't like games without it.
But there is really no story progressing in the latest updates.
Deflowering Lydia with the wooden strapon ... not really my choice, but it can lead to some nice lesbian/threesome scenes.
But that was too easy, even if she is a submissive girl.
I hope there will be more story telling in the next updates.
But after the last few updates .... yeah, somebody mentioned groundhog day.
Characters and relationship building are important and I don't like games without it.
But there is really no story progressing in the latest updates.
Deflowering Lydia with the wooden strapon ... not really my choice, but it can lead to some nice lesbian/threesome scenes.
But that was too easy, even if she is a submissive girl.
I hope there will be more story telling in the next updates.
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You mentioned you often project a lot of personality into characters that may or may not be intended by the author. You seem to do that here as well. Never once did I say anything about rejecting any ideas because they didn't originate with MC. Repeatedly I have stated it feels the MC is beta because he simply follows along agreeing with anyone and everyone who makes a decision around him, and never makes any decisions himself. There is a huge difference between wishing the MC actually drove some of the plot and having whatever plot exists simply push the MC as it happens around him. I don't need him to make every decision, forcing his will on all around, but right now, that person is certainly Cathy.
I'm gonna wait until 0.14SE is available, just to avoid missing images and similar bullshit.
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I'm not getting in between you guys, but consider what you just said.
What was said was said in the privacy of their room / castle / apartment. So you would actually still never hear him say it.
A prime example that proves your point is when the younger knight challenges him to join in the tourney. The player is not even given a choice to take up the challenge. That bugged me because I really wanted to throat punch him when he opened his mouth at first lol. I agree with your point a lot more than I did when i wrote my initial statements. I had not considered that I was looking at the MC as more of a decision maker, based off of my personality, rather than his own. The writer's mould for the character is much more important than my impression of the character, since my impression is colored by my own personality but the character, as it is written, is boxed into way too much complicity rather than initiative. I know I keep going on about this but it surprises me that I did not see it this way before. I really put more of my imagination into this character than is actually there. Unfortunately the dialogues are written in a way that greatly limits the character's scope. I generally choose the "nice but strong" options in games, when they are available, but looking back there are no "strong" options at all. I know its my fault for not really looking at it more closely, but I feel like I was lulled lol. Its actually kind of irritating how little the player is allowed to exert their will through the MC. In a way it makes me admire the author because they (intentionally or not) duped me into thinking that I was making these things happen, when I actually had no real input. I guess more accurately I duped myself.
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In the history, yes, but studing the mentality of men in the medieval times, is a woman, don't matter the social class of time, will never tell a man "do this", unless if was a noble to a peasant, the same social class at that time, a woman will lever tell a man what to do. But in the game, the mc is nothing, and since WE are him, we can judge the way of his acts, and boy, that was never a way of a lord act, the most historically correct guy from that time was the new king.I'm not getting in between you guys, but consider what you just said.
What was said was said in the privacy of their room / castle / apartment. So you would actually still never hear him say it.
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This is common for most VNs. Which is why efficient economy of words is so critical (and unfortunately, very rare).
Accurate descriptions WITHOUT economy of words usually end up as a "wall of text".
Yeah, I'm bad about that. I've been thinking about writing a novel for years, but I'm just too damn wordy. Freaking thing would be a billion pages long.
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Sounds to me that you need to find someone who is just too damn rendery! Just imagine the stuff you would put out!
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