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i think story, about kingdom, ruling atc.... if i was not clear i am sure that there was story about qraduating relationship with repeating eating and bathing...
yes they eat breakfast etc everyday and also bathe everyday and in the meantime they do other things.
 

Wirtlon

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Making fun of everyone who expects the MC to be... well the MC is ridiculous. I have yet to see a movie, tv show, book or game where the MC is not the center of the universe of that story.
Ever read Moby-Dick? Hint: it's not the title of a porno.

The video game Final Fantasy XII is a modern example.
 
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RustyCooter

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I found this game interesting early on but I wish the story would kick off to something a little less boring. Seem like all the story has become is the four main characters changing sleeping arrangements so that eventually they will all be fucking. But it needs some kinda story in between. That's just my opinion.
 

Avaron1974

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Who do you think the protag of Moby Dick is? Hint: it's not the whale.
The protag of Moby Dick is Ishmael who is telling the tale of Ahab's obsessive hunt for the whale.

There are 2 important characters to that story and one of those isn't the person telling it, that could literally be anyone.
 
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Exdeath92

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For some reason, I can't keep playing this game because I don't feel any character development. A real shame, considering that I enjoyed Triangle (dev's previous work)
 

erkper

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The protag of Moby Dick is Ishmael who is telling the tale of Ahab's obsessive hunt for the whale.

There are 2 important characters to that story and one of those isn't the person telling it, that could literally be anyone.
It was a joke, just like pointing out Moby-Dick wasn't the title of a porn.

Using a movie, tv show, or book as an example of how the protag is always the main character is, of course, flawed. But if you want to apply that theory to this game... err, Visual Novel, would you then agree that the player character is not actually the protag of the story? That it is, instead, Cathy?
 

AmerHST

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There is nothing wrong with Cathy.
#4 is so wrong. They have a loving equal relationship. We are all entitled to our own opinions no matter how wrong they seem to others.

But I will never understand the need to hang out and facepalm and comment repeatedly in a thread of a vn that you (royal you) don't want to play and don't enjoy?
This was my first comment here so I don't know why you said "comment repeatedly in a thread of a vn that you (royal you) don't want to play and don't enjoy?" to me.

The MC and Cathy do love each other it is true and I know some people say they don't like to share their women and they don't like lesbian sex BUT I'm not one of them.

Sure it's unrealistic that every woman is bi but having a harem is also unrealistic so it's ok. I have no problem with a poly relationship where the wife gets as much women as the husband does, it's the way it's done that I have a problem with.
 
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AmerHST

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My response to the above....

AmeHST has a very good point in his (1).
The way I see it, the MC is the muscle, not the brains.
Yes, he may be one of the best if not the best knight of the kingdom in terms off physicality and the Knight's code (whatever that is). But upstairs in the brain department he is lacking.
Hence the wife doing the thinking and him doing what a knight does best, follow orders.
Honestly, for me the whole alpha/beta thing doesn't bother me. It's everything he does outside of the bedroom that's making this game a disappointment.
You can't be just muscle and be one of the best knights if not the best like you said, you need some brains at least but all that aside, you don't need to be smart to be assertive and it does not make sense for him not to be assertive at all.

I agree with you, I'm also disappointed with what is happening outside the bedroom.
 
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Spfjolietjake

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This was my first comment here so I don't know why you said "comment repeatedly in a thread of a vn that you (royal you) don't want to play and don't enjoy?" to me.

The MC and Cathy do love each other it is true and I know some people say they don't like to share their women and they don't like lesbian sex BUT I'm not one of them.

Sure it's unrealistic that every woman is bi but having a harem is also unrealistic so it's ok. I have no problem with a poly relationship where the wife gets as much women as the husband does, it's the way it's done that I have a problem with.
Royal you means not just you. That statement wasn't aimed at you. All you have to do is look and see multiple posts from posters saying they stopped playing and still comment weeks later about the new update saying they are going quit playing lol. Sorry if you felt singled out.

The mc still has more sex scenes than the wifey and they both have the same amount of lovers so I don't see how she is getting more?
 

AmerHST

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Ever read Moby-Dick? Hint: it's not the title of a porno.

The video game Final Fantasy XII is a modern example.
Yes but those stories were made that way with no clear MC but in Moby-Dick it's still clear that Captain Ahab is the MC and the driving force in the story unlike here.
 

AmerHST

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It was a joke, just like pointing out Moby-Dick wasn't the title of a porn.

Using a movie, tv show, or book as an example of how the protag is always the main character is, of course, flawed. But if you want to apply that theory to this game... err, Visual Novel, would you then agree that the player character is not actually the protag of the story? That it is, instead, Cathy?
How is it flawed? The knight here is the MC, same with Harry Potter, yes the title does not always indicates who is the MC I'll give you that but it's very clear here that it does.
 

AmerHST

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Royal you means not just you. That statement wasn't aimed at you. All you have to do is look and see multiple posts from posters saying they stopped playing and still comment weeks later about the new update saying they are going quit playing lol. Sorry if you felt singled out.

The mc still has more sex scenes than the wifey and they both have the same amount of lovers so I don't see how she is getting more?
It's ok no need to apologize I just though it was weird since that was my first comment that's all.

Ok so maybe I did not make it clear in my original comment but as I've said in another reply I have no issues with lesbian sex or the wife getting as much women as the MC. I have a problem with the way it's done and the MC himself.
 

Spfjolietjake

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It's ok no need to apologize I just though it was weird since that was my first comment that's all.

Ok so maybe I did not make it clear in my original comment but as I've said in another reply I have no issues with lesbian sex or the wife getting as much women as the MC. I have a problem with the way it's done and the MC himself.
Ok I get that. But not all mc's are the same or it would be the same mc in every vn. Some I like some I hate so I get that. This is a love story first and foremost, with a side story of a squires journey to being a knight.

That's the way I see it anyway. I admit it ain't for everyone but I don't see it changing this late in development.
 
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