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holaje12

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Thank you for taking the time to comment on that.
I think my game is realistic in the sense that the characters are intelligent; Monica would not leave her husband to be the protagonist's secondary love interest. To me, that is intelligent.
You keep using the word "realistic" but I dont think you really know what it means, nothing about the whole Monica situation is realistic at all, it is a convoluted mess that the only thing it accomplishes is to make the players dislike the MC, Monica, and the game as a whole, since this situation is a big part of it.

Not to mention, you admitted you added this clown show of a situation because it would be 'too boring' to have the actual realistic option, which is a woman leaving her husband if she is unhappy and wants to jump on someone else's dick.:
I would have had Monica simply leave her husband, but it seemed a little simple and boring to me; I thought it was more exciting and hot for MC to sleep with a married friend and have her husband give his approval.
Theres nothing fun about being at the mercy of a cuck, to have the woman the MC is interested in telling him how she cares more about her husband and thats the only reason she is with MC is because the cuck allows it. Not to mention she will still be fucking her husband, to add salt to injury.

This only makes the Mc look awfully pathetic and retarded for going along with it, he is not some broke fat loser with low selfsteem who cant get laid, she isnt his only option, so why would he accept those terms?

And Monica accepting this situation is also not realistic. She says she is unhappy with her marriage, already cheated on her husband with MC even before this whole weird ass arrangementt ....but still, her husband is the first choice? over a millionarie MC who she likes and who she calls the "love of her life" ??:WaitWhat::WaitWhat::WaitWhat:

Actually she tells the MC how she "loves" her husband just seconds after getting buttfucked by him. You realize how stupid that is yeah? It really paints her character in a really bad light, even more, and thats sucks for a character that is such a big part of your game.

Her bullshitting about loving the guy doesn’t make her feel realistic, just make her seem psychotic and bipolar. She has cheated on the guy repeatedly, talked shit about him making her unhappy, but she will let him decide how she spends the rest of her life? How is that realistic?

Besides, at no point did I make it clear in the story that the protagonist and Monica are dating.
As the protagonist and another character are.
Many people believe that; even Monica is not included in the MC's potential harem.
I wrote a scene where the two characters talk about it.
Perhaps because Monica is the most developed character so far, it seems like they are dating, or perhaps because they treat each other very affectionately, it seems that way, but no, they are not.

I don't want to give any spoilers, but in the future, it will become clear what the protagonist will really do with Monica, but that will be several chapters later.
That's the problem; as I said before, my mistake was thinking that people would play and wait to find out what happens in the next chapter, but no, they already think the story is about NTR.
But hey, it's my fault for creating a very long story that I can't explain and make everything clear in each chapter.

As I also said before, I should create more of a season than an episode, so that nothing is left unexplained or leads to misinterpretation.
People assume she is a MAIN love interest because she is a big part of what is in the game, if she is supposed to be a whore that the Mc just fucks ocasionally then ... BROTHER,check the OP, whos face is that?
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Not only that but Monica says she loved the MC, and the MC says he loves her as well? Did you write that or did ChatGPT did? And there a bunch of other dialogs that would make people believe she is a LI and part of the harem later on, they have a history, they love each each other, etc.

If you wanted to build up her story more slowly so people had curiosity to find out more about what happens with Monica then you shouldnt have had them fuck in the first place, or wasted so much time with her story.

By having her give priority to her husband after she already fucked the MC, and letting us know she keeps fucking her husband in a sort of "swinging" type situation, you've already killed any kind of interest a player would have with her, it doesnt matter what you reveal later because she is dead as a LI already.

Her saying it is ok for her to fuck both the MC and her husband and trying to justify it saying the MC will fuck other women is also stupid. Because she is basically stating the reasons why the MC doesnt need to agree to her bulshit cuck/swinging deal, he can just go fuck someone else. Why would he want the cum filled leftovers of some cuck? does he enjoy having anoither man's cum in his women? Mc says he doesnt, hell he even seems to have a virgin fetish, so him accepting that deal is UNREALISTIC, stupid, moronic, etc. With all that virgin talk, the realistic option would be to laugh in her face and tell her to go be miserable for the rest of her life with the husband she 'loves so much,' but still cheats on for some reason.

What even is "love" for this woman? :KEK: if she truly loved the guy, she wouldnt hit him with some ultimatum that would force him into being a cuck just to stay married to her. That shit is evil, I wouldnt wish that shit to my worst enemy, but yet she says it like she does it out of love? After already having cheated on him? bro.

Does any of this nonsense make her "intelligent" or "realistic" as you claim? which part, please explain, because all I get from her actions is that she is very selfish lunatic, psychotic and sadistic, she knows the dude is pathetic so he will accept, and she will keep him around for convenience, while allowing him to fuck her, even when she says she has never orgasmed with him, almost like a prostitute. So when she says she "loves" the MC I cant take it seriously either, seeing what she does to the other dude she, supposedly, also loves.

To reduce the face of your game to that is not a good idea for a harem game, anyone could tell you that.

The husband does nothing but damage to your game, there is no reason for him to exist at all, well I guess there is, to make Monica one of the worse LI I've seen in these type of games, hell, even some NTR heroines have a better moral compass than her, at least they have the decency to leave their man instead of forcing him into cuckoldry while delusionally claiming to love him.

I stopped playing after that conversation so I dont know what else happens, and I dont care to know, thats all this situation accomplishes. It is not fun, or realistic or interesting or well written. It just doesnt make any sense.
 
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hmm this discussion about Monica is a bit annoying, wouldn't it be easier to say she will always be a friend with benefits or will she become LI? To finally close this topic :unsure:
 
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Maybe you're right; those who want harem stories don't care if the story is unrealistic, they just want to sleep with all the characters and have them be theirs alone.
I would have had Monica simply leave her husband, but it seemed a little simple and boring to me; I thought it was more exciting and hot for MC to sleep with a married friend and have her husband give his approval.
But anyway, unfortunately, people aren't seeing it that way.
Thanks for commenting, sorry for not responding to your comment sooner.
I haven't played the game, nor have I seen any other comments about Monica, but after reading this, I hope the relationship with her is avoidable. Either she dumps her husband, or I'm not interested.
 

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so the husband is real, then im out gl with your game, btw you need to add sharing/swinging tag
Edit: also if the mc doesnt steal the girls from there bfs then its not netori, mc makes them to stay in there relationships, that means that mc is a closet CUCK
Perhaps the story is not about MC building a harem, it's about Monica building her harem and MC is just one of the dicks in it. :unsure: :ROFLMAO:
:ROFLMAO: true mc had a threeway relation with her and now she has a threeway relation with him and her husband. im out :ROFLMAO:
 
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I really tried with this because the start of the story was intriguing, but slowly started to unravel. Monica staying with the Husband would be interesting if it was for realistic reasons, but she says she's love the MC her whole life, yet can't give up a husband that offers nothing but a house over her head? Especially when the MC can do that and much, much more. She's a coward or Selfish AF. If they had never known each other and connected for only sex, then that would make sense (been that guy at one time). I also take exception to a man telling his kids when they should be over their mom dying and that him pushing himself to be over it just like that. Again, Not realistic at all. Having lost someone I loved dearly, I find it offensive. Sorry, to the Dev, but I just cant with it. Monica and some of the other girls look really good. I will give you that.
 

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hmm this discussion about Monica is a bit annoying, wouldn't it be easier to say she will always be a friend with benefits or will she become LI? To finally close this topic :unsure:
That's what I'm trying to tell you, but it seems I'm not making myself clear. :LOL:
 
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I really tried with this because the start of the story was intriguing, but slowly started to unravel. Monica staying with the Husband would be interesting if it was for realistic reasons, but she says she's love the MC her whole life, yet can't give up a husband that offers nothing but a house over her head? Especially when the MC can do that and much, much more. She's a coward or Selfish AF. If they had never known each other and connected for only sex, then that would make sense (been that guy at one time). I also take exception to a man telling his kids when they should be over their mom dying and that him pushing himself to be over it just like that. Again, Not realistic at all. Having lost someone I loved dearly, I find it offensive. Sorry, to the Dev, but I just cant with it. Monica and some of the other girls look really good. I will give you that.
I'm glad you liked the character models; they took me a long time to make.
 

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You keep using the word "realistic" but I dont think you really know what it means, nothing about the whole Monica situation is realistic at all, it is a convoluted mess that the only thing it accomplishes is to make the players dislike the MC, Monica, and the game as a whole, since this situation is a big part of it.

Not to mention, you admitted you added this clown show of a situation because it would be 'too boring' to have the actual realistic option, which is a woman leaving her husband if she is unhappy and wants to jump on someone else's dick.:

Theres nothing fun about being at the mercy of a cuck, to have the woman the MC is interested in telling him how she cares more about her husband and thats the only reason she is with MC is because the cuck allows it. Not to mention she will still be fucking her husband, to add salt to injury.

This only makes the Mc look awfully pathetic and retarded for going along with it, he is not some broke fat loser with low selfsteem who cant get laid, she isnt his only option, so why would he accept those terms?

And Monica accepting this situation is also not realistic. She says she is unhappy with her marriage, already cheated on her husband with MC even before this whole weird ass arrangementt ....but still, her husband is the first choice? over a millionarie MC who she likes and who she calls the "love of her life" ??:WaitWhat::WaitWhat::WaitWhat:

Actually she tells the MC how she "loves" her husband just seconds after getting buttfucked by him. You realize how stupid that is yeah? It really paints her character in a really bad light, even more, and thats sucks for a character that is such a big part of your game.

Her bullshitting about loving the guy doesn’t make her feel realistic, just make her seem psychotic and bipolar. She has cheated on the guy repeatedly, talked shit about him making her unhappy, but she will let him decide how she spends the rest of her life? How is that realistic?


People assume she is a MAIN love interest because she is a big part of what is in the game, if she is supposed to be a whore that the Mc just fucks ocasionally then ... BROTHER,check the OP, whos face is that?
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Not only that but Monica says she loved the MC, and the MC says he loves her as well? Did you write that or did ChatGPT did? And there a bunch of other dialogs that would make people believe she is a LI and part of the harem later on, they have a history, they love each each other, etc.

If you wanted to build up her story more slowly so people had curiosity to find out more about what happens with Monica then you shouldnt have had them fuck in the first place, or wasted so much time with her story.

By having her give priority to her husband after she already fucked the MC, and letting us know she keeps fucking her husband in a sort of "swinging" type situation, you've already killed any kind of interest a player would have with her, it doesnt matter what you reveal later because she is dead as a LI already.

Her saying it is ok for her to fuck both the MC and her husband and trying to justify it saying the MC will fuck other women is also stupid. Because she is basically stating the reasons why the MC doesnt need to agree to her bulshit cuck/swinging deal, he can just go fuck someone else. Why would he want the cum filled leftovers of some cuck? does he enjoy having anoither man's cum in his women? Mc says he doesnt, hell he even seems to have a virgin fetish, so him accepting that deal is UNREALISTIC, stupid, moronic, etc. With all that virgin talk, the realistic option would be to laugh in her face and tell her to go be miserable for the rest of her life with the husband she 'loves so much,' but still cheats on for some reason.

What even is "love" for this woman? :KEK: if she truly loved the guy, she wouldnt hit him with some ultimatum that would force him into being a cuck just to stay married to her. That shit is evil, I wouldnt wish that shit to my worst enemy, but yet she says it like she does it out of love? After already having cheated on him? bro.

Does any of this nonsense make her "intelligent" or "realistic" as you claim? which part, please explain, because all I get from her actions is that she is very selfish lunatic, psychotic and sadistic, she knows the dude is pathetic so he will accept, and she will keep him around for convenience, while allowing him to fuck her, even when she says she has never orgasmed with him, almost like a prostitute. So when she says she "loves" the MC I cant take it seriously either, seeing what she does to the other dude she, supposedly, also loves.

To reduce the face of your game to that is not a good idea for a harem game, anyone could tell you that.
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This is just retarded.

The husband does nothing but damage to your game, there is no reason for him to exist at all, well I guess there is, to make Monica one of the worse LI I've seen in these type of games, hell, even some NTR heroines have a better moral compass than her, at least they have the decency to leave their man instead of forcing him into cuckoldry while delusionally claiming to love him.

I stopped playing after that conversation so I dont know what else happens, and I dont care to know, thats all this situation accomplishes. It is not fun, or realistic or interesting or well written. It just doesnt make any sense.
I was going to respond to all the points you raised in your comment.
But you said you stopped playing and came straight to give your opinion.
Well, why waste time explaining yourself?
 

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What's up, wouldn't you like to fuck a married woman, or would you be afraid of a cuckold husband?
In my opinion, LIs should be with the MC and no one else. I'm not going to like having a LI with both the MC and her husband/boyfriend at the same time. Either she cuts off all previous relationships, or I'd rather she doesn't start a relationship with the MC. So we can say that the first option.
 

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What's up, wouldn't you like to fuck a married woman, or would you be afraid of a cuckold husband?
You both would be cucks basically sharing the same woman. With the husband being the "alpha" cuck since he gets to say if you get something or nothing at all, she picked him, not the MC.

This game tried to do exactly the same as you, it also didn't go over well: https://f95zone.to/threads/lustville-stories-ep-1-mrlollipop.139714/

The character you made, who has history with the MC, say she loves him and he loves her back, is not one fit to be FWB, or any sort of cuckoldry/sharing/swinging thats going on here. That's more fitting for a side character whose connection with the MC is just sex/lust. You know, other devs use prostitutes or strippers for that, quick sex.
I was going to respond to all the points you raised in your comment.
But you said you stopped playing and came straight to give your opinion.
Well, why waste time explaining yourself?
I wasted my time playing your game till I reached that point so I made a comment about it, it's nothing special. Although it wasn't that bad until that part I would have to say.

Obviously, I wasn't really expecting an explanation because there can be non, so I actually appreciate this response instead of giving me tons of text trying to justify what is basically BS

Just keep going with your "realistic" story, I said all I have to say about it. Godspeed
 
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You both would be cucks basically sharing the same woman. With the husband being the "alpha" cuck since he gets to say if you get something or nothing at all, she picked him, not the MC.

This game tried to do exactly the same as you, it also didn't go over well: https://f95zone.to/threads/lustville-stories-ep-1-mrlollipop.139714/

The character you made, who has history with the MC, say she loves him and he loves her back, is not one fit to be FWB, or any sort of cuckoldry/sharing/swinging thats going on here. That's more fitting for a side character whose connection with the MC is just sex/lust. You know, other devs use prostitutes or strippers for that, quick sex.

I wasted my time playing your game till I reached that point so I made a comment about it, it's nothing special. Although it wasn't that bad until that part I would have to say.

Obviously, I wasn't really expecting an explanation because there can be non, so I actually appreciate this response instead of giving me tons of text trying to justify what is basically BS

Just keep going with your "realistic" story, I said all I have to say about it. Godspeed
It's incredible that you think sleeping with your married friend is wrong, and that in order to keep sleeping with her, she should leave her husband.

That's weird, it sounds like something a foolish guy in love would say.
So every time a woman wants to sleep with you, you'll end up whining to her not to sleep with anyone else, only with you.
When all she wanted was just sex, nothing more.

Life isn’t like the games you like, my friend. Nothing is that perfect or ideal like in the stories you play.
 

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Afraid of what, the cuck husband? Don’t make me laugh :ROFLMAO:. If this is a joke, please don’t read the spoiler.

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Simply put: well-created character, ruined by your decisions.

Anyway, let’s move on—this topic’s been discussed enough.
You say women don't cheat on their husbands.
Where do you live? It must be beautiful there, hahaha.:cool:

And about Monica and the harem: it's never mentioned in the script that Monica will be part of the harem; in fact, Monica already knows she won't be part of it. There's an entire scene where the two of them talk about it.
That's why Monica doesn't want to leave her husband so she won't be alone.

The mistake everyone makes is thinking Monica will be one of their main characters.
Just by not waiting for the story to progress, they're already hating her.
 

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It's incredible that you think sleeping with your married friend is wrong, and that in order to keep sleeping with her, she should leave her husband.

That's weird, it sounds like something a foolish guy in love would say.
So every time a woman wants to sleep with you, you'll end up whining to her not to sleep with anyone else, only with you.
When all she wanted was just sex, nothing more.

Life isn’t like the games you like, my friend. Nothing is that perfect or ideal like in the stories you play.
but monica is not just a married friend at all shes a gold digger who left mc to find someone whos more of a man that could pay for their child.

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You say women don't cheat on their husbands.
Where do you live? It must be beautiful there, hahaha.:cool:

And about Monica and the harem: it's never mentioned in the script that Monica will be part of the harem; in fact, Monica already knows she won't be part of it. There's an entire scene where the two of them talk about it.
That's why Monica doesn't want to leave her husband so she won't be alone.

The mistake everyone makes is thinking Monica will be one of their main characters.
Just by not waiting for the story to progress, they're already hating her.
that just makes the whole plot waste of time since 80% is about her and mc
 
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You say women don't cheat on their husbands.
Where do you live? It must be beautiful there, hahaha.:cool:

And about Monica and the harem: it's never mentioned in the script that Monica will be part of the harem; in fact, Monica already knows she won't be part of it. There's an entire scene where the two of them talk about it.
That's why Monica doesn't want to leave her husband so she won't be alone.

The mistake everyone makes is thinking Monica will be one of their main characters.
Just by not waiting for the story to progress, they're already hating her.
You say women don't cheat on their husbands.
Where do you live? It must be beautiful there, hahaha.

Oh, it’s definitely beautiful… too bad not everyone lives there ;).

And about Monica and the harem: it's never mentioned in the script that Monica will be part of the harem; in fact, Monica already knows she won't be part of it. There's an entire scene where the two of them talk about it.

That's why Monica doesn't want to leave her husband so she won't be alone.

Monica being in the harem or not isn’t the point. She could leave and be with MC without being alone—that’s also a realistic option if written differently.

The mistake everyone makes is thinking Monica will be one of their main characters.
Just by not waiting for the story to progress, they're already hating her.

Sure, people might hate her too soon, but from what I see, that’s because of how you wrote her. The story sets her up as “married, second choice, forced relationship” — players don’t get a choice, and that’s the real issue.
 

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but monica is not just a married friend at all shes a gold digger who left mc to find someone whos more of a man that could pay for their child.

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that just makes the whole plot waste of time since 80% is about her and mc
i only see 4 ways you can save this kn
1. make kira not mc's child, because who tf wants anything to with monica after running away with your child.
2. mc wants to completely destroy monica's life for her betrayal, theres many ways that could be done.
3. remove the husband completely and make it so she was never with anyone at all, if you still wanna go with the route that mc only wanna be with virgins.
4. or just go full Sharing/swinging because you are already there.
 
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