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Yeah, although I really love this series, that part was over the top with regards the "suspension of disbelief" thing, which is already being stressed by the Susi character, which is somewhat unnecessary herself.
However, Susi I can tolerate. But this entire genetic modification storyline makes both unbelievable and, as Ava said, artificial.
It's a pity. But for me not a reason to drop this game so far.
I did love the very, very hot scenes with Nixie, even though I can also understand people who hoped for a pure incest path.
And, when loading my old saves, I encountered a lot of "uncaught exception occurred". I restarted, but then I found out that the game also has an issue with scroll back beyond choices, so I started over again. That was also quite annoying.
All in all, sad to say, the update was somewhat disappointing. Even though the sex scenes (Petal with the vibrator and everything with Nixie) were as hot as fuck.
- Apr 24, 2021
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I get people wanting a pure family only path but like it was stated due to the planed story Nixie needs to be there. It's difficult enough to make a single story but to have branching story paths that flow equally well is hard let alone the additional workload of new scenes and renders and this is only the 2nd game in the series what happens to those branching choices when they get compounded in the 3rd or 4th?
I generally agree with the whole genetics story line being a shark jump moment, I do agree it does feel like it takes away from the natural love. I understand trying to give a reason why all the family feel this way about MC but I see it as a greater detriment to the overall picture than a pro (pro/con). I don't know what is planned but this revelation would likely destroy MC as he already feels he has failed his family and now when he is back he is only taking advantage of them and how they can't help themselves add on top what Moon said about him and how that is still unresolved MC would likely break. The changes he has made are still new and not ingrained yet into himself, to put it another way he is kinda like freshly poured concrete that has not fully set yet sure you may be able to walk across it without major damage but your trying to drive a loaded truck over it.
Once again I don't know what the plan for the story is but I don't see any path that does not destroy what has been made already.
I will say the reason why Rose became sexually cold to MC does make sense in the context of things, I just think it could have been approached differently that did not tarnish the sexual love that has been established.
I can appreciate what is trying to be done and do overall enjoy the game series. I just think it was a mistake to use such a macguffin.
Still a fan and am looking forward to what the plan is.
I generally agree with the whole genetics story line being a shark jump moment, I do agree it does feel like it takes away from the natural love. I understand trying to give a reason why all the family feel this way about MC but I see it as a greater detriment to the overall picture than a pro (pro/con). I don't know what is planned but this revelation would likely destroy MC as he already feels he has failed his family and now when he is back he is only taking advantage of them and how they can't help themselves add on top what Moon said about him and how that is still unresolved MC would likely break. The changes he has made are still new and not ingrained yet into himself, to put it another way he is kinda like freshly poured concrete that has not fully set yet sure you may be able to walk across it without major damage but your trying to drive a loaded truck over it.
Once again I don't know what the plan for the story is but I don't see any path that does not destroy what has been made already.
I will say the reason why Rose became sexually cold to MC does make sense in the context of things, I just think it could have been approached differently that did not tarnish the sexual love that has been established.
I can appreciate what is trying to be done and do overall enjoy the game series. I just think it was a mistake to use such a macguffin.
Still a fan and am looking forward to what the plan is.
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Exactly. Rose confessing to feeling guilty of lusting after her children felt natural. I guess that sometimes such feelings can happen and it would be natural to feel guilty about it, especially if the girls are still young. The guilty feeling making Rose less interested in sex with the MC also makes sense.
The devs should have left it at that. At some point, it would be right for Rose to finally accept her feelings (and become aware of and accepting the situation between the MC and the girls) and join the family harem. After all, this is a porn game, some suspension of disbelief is acceptable. But I don't doubt that also IRL there could be examples where life has somehow played out like that.
The entire genetic modification thing is absolutely unnecessary.
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- Apr 25, 2020
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Of course but then make a kinetic novel if you don't want branching in your game. But those are way less popular, better give a few non-impactful choices to avoid that tag. Still good game when you expect not to have lots of choices
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Nix and Bliss are the absolute best part of this VN.
With all that genetic alteration killing the story for me i'm only here for the whole Nix/Bliss thing.
- Sep 3, 2020
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Well, the scene on the edge of the pool between Bliss and Nixie was definitely HOT as fuck. I just really didn't like when later on Bliss told Nixie that she has to service the MC whenever he wants it, no matter what. Maybe if the dom/sub stuff evolved more naturally I wouldn't mind it as much but forcing it like they do was just off-putting to me. Wouldn't this be considered femdom the way it is written?
- Aug 22, 2018
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Hmm, that would probably be more fitting. I just checked the tag definitions and this is what it says:
Female domination [Used when a character submits to a female character via domination.]
So, I guess it doesn't have to be the MC being dominated for the tag to apply.
- Aug 22, 2018
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I'll try and explain it as best I can.
It alters how attraction is seen. It's not a natural attraction, it's been forced onto them.
Bliss doesn't find her dad attractive because she's grown to love him, she finds him attractive because scientists said so. It makes the whole thing seem forced if you will. It was something someone else did to them not something that built up between them.
It takes away the emotion of everything that happened with Petal and all that's happening with Bliss and reduces it to the after effects of an experiment.
It just makes it seem fake, like the emotions aren't real they are programmed.
It takes all the struggles Rose has and the fact it tore apart thier relationship and puts the blame on someone else rather than something they need to work on together.
Like she can explain it away as "it's not my fault, they did it to me" which, again, cheapens her experience and kinda spoils her plot.
Something that's part of the family is different, it's in them naturally and something they need to work out together. Being the result of an experiment just takes away from the emotion of it all, it makes it all so clinical.
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I haven't played the new update but if that's what was revealed in the update then that's just killed the entire vibe of the VN for me. This VN was great until it wasn't.. RIP.
I can't speak for elsewhere but at least on this board the test tube thing was not the big issue per say (still far fetched compared to the rest of the story so far). The issue people have is the love that has been established from the daughters no longer feels genuine but something that would happen regardless of who MC was. As is now it would seem like if he was a PoS to them they still would want to have sex with him only just angry sex. It makes what they feel as a lie and that does not sit well with many it seems.
This is my take on what myself and others have said here.
This is my take on what myself and others have said here.
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And that was changed in the updated version so it's now based on love and emotion again?
I've only played APAT so far.
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Yeah, it's now a family thing. It's more like A New Home now where it's kept in the family rather than the results of an experiment.
It's been changed now, it seems quite a lot of people disliked that reveal.
It feels a lot more natural now.
Nope, it's just no longer scientists that caused this rather it's been in the family all along. Same thing different reason.
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I think reasons matter though. Science experiment doesn't sound very appealing to me.
People have an issue where the girls don't have a say, it's ingrained into them. That is the BIG issue, the science pill was hard to swallow but the whole thing is like trying to swallow a can of pop whole.
This is the second game of the series and up to now the farthest reach we have had is Suzy which is easier to digest seeing how much we hear about AI IRL at this time, pushing boundaries but still within scope of what we know. Genetics is so far out of left field it just does not sit right.
Then there is the point of we already had the story of A New Home which covered this but did so from the start. (It being Genetics)
Up to now the story has been fantasticle as in 1 in 10 billion chance this could happen, its very unlikely but is still plausable. Now it seems Sci-Fi or Supernatural.