VN Ren'Py A Mother's Love [Part 1-14 Plus] [OrbOrigin]

[Alfred the Fallen]

So you guys are literally demanding that the DEV write that Nicole and John cease having sex entirely from the inception of game, (or at least the start of the affair?) and just accept that to be realistic?

Yes, because that's the only way a Nicole romance path makes any sense at all.

Nicole is a neglected housewife who initially agrees to fool around with the main character because she's trying to stop him from dating her daughter, and then she begins to enjoy it because of how starved for attention she's been since her husband no longer wants her. She is conflicted about it because she feels guilty for being a cheat, but is also starting to remember how good it feels to have someone that finds her to be irresistible. When main character stops seeing her daughter, the two continue on for the sole reason that they both have developed feelings for one another.

If she were in a good relationship with her husband, and having sex regularly with him, she wouldn't have any reason to develop feelings for the guy who is more or less blackmailing her into fooling around with him. Her not having sex with her husband is a cornerstone to this plot. You don't get to say it would be natural for them to be having sex simply because they used to do so years ago, or because they are married, because the game has already made it clear that they haven't been in a long time.

There was even a scene where Nicole asks her husband if she can shower with him, and he turns her down by reminding her that he can't get it up for her any longer. There have also been several scenes where her husband tells her that he's repulsed by her smell and refusing to be intimate with her. His change of heart is entirely because he suspects that the main character likes her and is doing it to upset the main character.

We had previously been on a standard vanilla porn plot about a neglected housewife finding herself tempted by a young lover, and as that young lover, the players get to have the fun of nailing the hot wife that the idiot husband is cheating on with his secretary. Ideally, this would end with us stealing the wife away by exposing the husband as a cheat, or by collecting evidence of his criminal actions, or whatever. But that's no longer what we have.

What we now have, is a main character who is in love with a woman who is fucking another guy. And that other guy knows you are in love with her, and is relishing the fact that you have to sit there and eat your liver. That's what the main focus of her path is now. It's a massive change, and a lot of people who previously enjoyed the path are now going to hate it. And it's an entirely predictable response.

This is why so many people here are quick to avoid games with optional NTR in them. That stuff pretty much always bleeds out into the rest of the game. We already had a taste of it earlier in the game when the developer had a scene where Nicole sucks her husbands limp dick to show that he can't get it up for her. That scene was not needed because there was already a scene where they talked about it. It was just there because the developer enjoys that stuff, so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if we get a scene where John forces the main character to watch him fuck Nicole. Especially not after that conversation with Marilyn where she just ridicules the main character about it. It very much feels like the developer is testing the waters with this update.

 

[Richard Perkins]

Another form of renpy, why doesn't the dev just use the same renpy, and finish the game!!! It would make the user so happy, instead of beginning the game over all the time

 

[Alexaxel1999]

For those who are debating for the situation with Nicole and John, this is the answer of the dev OrbOrigin to a patron about if John and Nicole had sex. Everyone draw your own conclusions, for me, i hope that did not happened but it is something that John would do, after all, he is excited about this "challenge" against us and he will try everything to make the mc mad and hurt him, dont rule out to try to do it in front of the mc X) (i hope not).

 

[IntiJWC11]

As expected, this update was extraordinary. I had honestly lost all hope that this great game would be revived, and yet not only did it come back, but it met all my expectations. I didn't even mind having to start the game again, as it put me back in the MC's shoes. Hopefully we don't have to wait another century for another update And Nicole is still my favourite character of all time.

 

[Garrettino]

Another form of renpy, why doesn't the dev just use the same renpy, and finish the game!!! It would make the user so happy, instead of beginning the game over all the time

That's not what happened. They've explained how to "FIX" it here, but it's mainly because this is the non Special "PLUS Edition", wait for that and the old saves should work fine.

 

[Garrettino]

Yes, because that's the only way a Nicole romance path makes any sense at all.

Nicole is a neglected housewife who initially agrees to fool around with the main character because she's trying to stop him from dating her daughter, and then she begins to enjoy it because of how starved for attention she's been since her husband no longer wants her. She is conflicted about it because she feels guilty for being a cheat, but is also starting to remember how good it feels to have someone that finds her to be irresistible. When main character stops seeing her daughter, the two continue on for the sole reason that they both have developed feelings for one another.

If she were in a good relationship with her husband, and having sex regularly with him, she wouldn't have any reason to develop feelings for the guy who is more or less blackmailing her into fooling around with him. Her not having sex with her husband is a cornerstone to this plot. You don't get to say it would be natural for them to be having sex simply because they used to do so years ago, or because they are married, because the game has already made it clear that they haven't been in a long time.

There was even a scene where Nicole asks her husband if she can shower with him, and he turns her down by reminding her that he can't get it up for her any longer. There have also been several scenes where her husband tells her that he's repulsed by her smell and refusing to be intimate with her. His change of heart is entirely because he suspects that the main character likes her and is doing it to upset the main character.

We had previously been on a standard vanilla porn plot about a neglected housewife finding herself tempted by a young lover, and as that young lover, the players get to have the fun of nailing the hot wife that the idiot husband is cheating on with his secretary. Ideally, this would end with us stealing the wife away by exposing the husband as a cheat, or by collecting evidence of his criminal actions, or whatever. But that's no longer what we have.

What we now have, is a main character who is in love with a woman who is fucking another guy. And that other guy knows you are in love with her, and is relishing the fact that you have to sit there and eat your liver. That's what the main focus of her path is now. It's a massive change, and a lot of people who previously enjoyed the path are now going to hate it. And it's an entirely predictable response.

This is why so many people here are quick to avoid games with optional NTR in them. That stuff pretty much always bleeds out into the rest of the game. We already had a taste of it earlier in the game when the developer had a scene where Nicole sucks her husbands limp dick to show that he can't get it up for her. That scene was not needed because there was already a scene where they talked about it. It was just there because the developer enjoys that stuff, so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if we get a scene where John forces the main character to watch him fuck Nicole. Especially not after that conversation with Marilyn where she just ridicules the main character about it. It very much feels like the developer is testing the waters with this update.

I understand all this.

My point was, the option for her to ever go back and start to fuck him again, was literally always there, and in REAL LIFE, marriages like this, can go years without intercourse, then eventually end the dry spell. If anything, her going back for a roll in the hay with her betrothed, then feeling bad about it, proves she regrets it, because NOW it's like she's betrayed YOU instead, and it further proves she prefers (even loves) you, more than John, clearly.

But I've already been facepalmed from people who think I'm missing points or don't get it, when all I'm doing is trying to bring rationale and validity to Orb's decision, and well, defend him, AND his right to tell HIS story. This isn't your/our story it's his to tell. Sure we make choices that mold it to our preference along the way, but it's still within his restrictions and constraints. If you complain about lack of choice, and being forced down certain paths, sure that's alot more valid to argue. But especially because it was a hypothetical, in the "Other Path", it's still optional and avoidable to "see" what you didn't want.

And furthermore, based on his response posted here, he might have just did a (somewhat troll) heat-check, to scare you guys and you shouldn't be worried at all, so most of this arguing here will be rendered null.

 

[nonokasan]

does anyone know where to find walkthrough for this i remember haveing one before

 

[TRKaiser]

Lets ask a question but without spoilers...just answer yes or no for those that haven't played the update yet.

Is the high corruption route a lot different than the low corruption route in the new update?

 

[Okefine]

wait, what? This game has an update! no way.

 

[Antonie van Leeuwenhoek]

It's such a bad habit of Orb that he releases most of his updates with smokey ntrish cliffhangers right from the fuking beginning and glad to see that 2 years of break time didn't affect his cunning bone.
Anyways welcome back Orb, we missed you blud. And please donate some spine to mc, he's been spineless for most times now. Wimpy ass.

 

[TRKaiser]

It's such a bad habit of Orb that he releases most of his updates with smokey ntrish cliffhangers right from the fuking beginning and glad to see that 2 years of break time didn't affect his cunning bone.
Anyways welcome back Orb, we missed you blud. And please donate some spine to mc, he's been spineless for most times now. Wimpy ass.

I will donate one vertebrae to help build up his spine to kick Johns ass. lol

 

[MAGO-DAG]

It's such a bad habit of Orb that he releases most of his updates with smokey ntrish cliffhangers right from the fuking beginning and glad to see that 2 years of break time didn't affect his cunning bone.
Anyways welcome back Orb, we missed you blud. And please donate some spine to mc, he's been spineless for most times now. Wimpy ass.

Compared to the last update, everything looks different here, Mc somehow remained the same but a little closed... We hope to see a slightly prepared Mc in the future

 

[Antonie van Leeuwenhoek]

Compared to the last update, everything looks different here, Mc somehow remained the same but a little closed... We hope to see a slightly prepared Mc in the future

He needs more than just a preparation if he wants to keep on cucking John the limp dick. Let's start with main character behaving like an actual main character..

 

[zeranta]

The story should be progressing fast by now, at this point with John. To those who play the game just to fap but still bitch whining:
- John in the game were portraited as a sharp and cunning man and he like a snake, manipulative and dangerous since his attack never goes directly.
- Nicole obviously is a tough woman but blindly commitment and being cheated, she is aware that her husband work is somewhat shady yet choose to ignore it.
So stop thinking you are here just to bang this woman. No pal, you surely are barely meet people. At the time where the MC being questioned by John at the hospital, you can tell either this story will end fast there and it will be a tough time to deal with such person.
And you do check day times in the game ... right ?
I don't know if the dev have countered someone like this in real life, but this is a good portrait of a villain.

 

[RadicalGuy]

Am I the only one who enjoys this update on Love Route? I feel like we've finally sealed the deal with type of relationship MC want to have with Nicole which is either supporting one (Love) or primarily sexual (Corruption). As for what exactly happened at the end of Part 11, I don't think this is important, what is important on the other hand is the effect of said event - Nicole's behavior/feelings. That's when Part's 12 finale comes to place. On Love Route, MC don't even grope her - he is there for Nicole, who clearly is distressed. If that's not what the love is, I don't know (or maybe I've read too much Joshy92's posts )

 

[cbomb]

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I recommend becoming friends with her in the story in both paths. Because you're going to need allies to fight against, not just John, but Beeman too. But if you really want to see two different scenarios with Marilyn. I recommend keeping her as a friend in the 'Love path with Nicole" and hate her in the "Corruption path with Nicole."


I had the opportunity to speak with dev Orb before he made his return. From our conversation, dev Orb is absolutely confident and assured me that he will finish 'A Mother's Love'. I haven't finished Part 12 but just from reading the posts here. The people who are in the "Love Path with Nicole", like me, this update is not in favor for us. But for people who are in the "Corruption path with Nicole" it's in favor of them.

I appreciate the advice. I messed around last night with both playthroughs and I believe you are correct. Now that I know a little more about the game, I believe it would be beneficial to keep Marilyn as a friend in both playthroughs. Besides, it just felt wrong to treat her badly even though she can be a bitch at times. Also, I'm enjoying the love path so much more than corruption. I may just give up on the corruption path all together. Sucks that I'll miss out on the ch 12 Corruption content but what are you gonna do.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

I have a question. Suppose through some code I increase “Love” and “Corruption” at the same time to a maximum of 80+80. Will I get a scene of both? or is this completely impossible? for example, I always follow the path of love, and how, being on the path of love, will I increase Corruption, will I get that very scene?

 

[Conrad-N7]

i have a feeling that instead of having sex, John beat Nicole like he beat the girl. I wouldn't be surprised if we found out about it and went nuts

 

[Светослав Пачеманов]

Why old saves won't work,I don't want to start from the begining..

 

[cxx]

Why old saves won't work,I don't want to start from the begining..

you played plus version before as said few times before.