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Wisblade

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I suggest reading more slowly.
You also missed the fact that the MC is the owner of that property and that he is letting her live there for free, and apparently that Charlie is also related to him.
So he is letting a damaged family member live there for free so that he can try to repair the mental damage she has, and fix the rifts in his family.
I know, thanks. MC is giving houses, stipends, jobs, etc. to EVERY woman of his family. But usually, he don't "force" the government to pay for it - but for Charlie, and JUST for a little insult (and I still think it was deserved anyway, she really was a scumbag). In particular, Charlie is related to him, but as step-family at best... There's absolutely no blood relation with MC - unlike Bobbie.
 
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DigDug69

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The line about the government leasing it was a joke. The MC points that out in the story and explains that he is the owner of the property.
And Bobbie is her sister who he wants to also make happy and fix the rifts in her family.
 

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envixer : Possible continuity problem: don't know if a glitch or not, but...
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I missed something, or is it a real continuity bug?
it';s not a problem its not a glitch...it's in game...there's a agent who was a bit more than usual hostile let's say...or at least from what was shown..who knows what else he may have done before...
Just replay the section where she get's snatched and you'll see
 

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The way I think I rememeber it and don't quote me but.
Charlie was a bitch there is no dening that even she admits it.
Due partly to her past and her own struggles rightly or wrongly.
Also partly because of the business she ran she became a particularly vindictive bitch.
But wether she meant to or not she did get Little Aunty off of drugs before she could delibratly or accidently overdose herself.
And yes she exploted Little Aunty as a prostitue but Little Aunty was already one for her drugs before Charlie got hold of her.
And yes she used Bobbie as a mule and would of used her as a Prostitue but she did so because she was unaware that Bobbie was the Sister she was searching for.
And the reason she did this was to get back at Little Aunty and Bobbie because she thought they hated Maggy and that hate was hurting Maggy who charlie believe'd was her only friend.
I despute that since Maggy let charlie's would be rapist dad knock her up with Bobbie but who am I to argue with Charlie's mind.
Yes Charlie was still a vindictive bitch but finding out she had used her little sisters as a mule and almost ruined her life by thinking of turning her into a Prostitue caused Charlie to go into break down and be a suicide risk to herself.

Trust me I almost said yes to killing her but as the MC say's even if Bobbie hates Charlie at the moment their still sister's and Killing Charlie may one day very well make Bobbie hate the MC.

Its Bobbie that is the MC's cousin Charlie is of no relation to the MC in any way blood or otherwise she is just a acquaintance to him.

Just Sayin.
 
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DigDug69

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The way I think I rememeber it and don't quote me but.
Charlie was a bitch there is no dening that even she admits it.
Due partly to her past and her own struggles rightly or wrongly.
Also partly because of the business she ran she became a particularly vindictive bitch.
But wether she meant to or not she did get Little Aunty off of drugs before she could delibratly or accidently overdose herself.
And yes she exploted Little Aunty as a prostitue but Little Aunty was already one for her drugs before Charlie got hold of her.
And yes she used Bobbie as a mule and would of used her as a Prostitue but she did so because she was unaware that Bobbie was the Sister she was searching for.
And the reason she did this was to get back at Little Aunty and Bobbie because she thought they hated Maggy and that hate was hurting Maggy who charlie believe'd was her only friend.
I despute that since Maggy let charlie's would be rapist dad knock her up with Bobbie but who am I to argue with Charlie's mind.
Yes Charlie was still a vindictive bitch but finding out she had used her little sisters as a mule and almost ruined her life by thinking of turning her into a Prostitue caused Charlie to go into break down and be a suicide risk to herself.

Trust me I almost said yes to killing her but as the MC say's even if Bobbie hates Charlie at the moment their still sister's and Killing Charlie may one day very well make Bobbie hate the MC.

Its Bobbie that is the MC's cousin Charlie is of no relation to the MC in any way blood or otherwise she is just a acquaintance to him.

Just Sayin.
Charlie is Bobbies sister, that makes her a half cousin at the least.
Not directly related to the MC, but she is directly related to Bobbie, who is important to the MC.
Bobbies whole family was fucked up, and he is on a mission to bring the family closer together, including his cousins family, so that would include Bobbies sister.
 
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Charlie is Bobbies sister, that makes her a half cousin at the least.
Not directly related to the MC, but she is directly related to Bobbie, who is important to the MC.
Bobbies whole family was fucked up, and he is on a mission to bring the family closer together, including his cousins family, so that would include Bobbies sister.
No I'm sorry I have to disagree with you there.
Charlie is only Bobbies Half sister they share the same Dad but different Mother's and since Bobbies mother never married Charlies Dad she is not related to the MC not even as some form of Inlaw.

In order to be Half cousins if there is even such a tittle then Charlie would need some form of marrige or blood relation to the MC so unless Charlies Dad or Mother was in some way a related to the MC's Dad or Mother then there is no family relashonship between the MC and Charlie at best she's a Family Friend, or acquaintance to the MC no more than that.
 
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No I'm sorry I have to disagree with you there.
Charlie is only Bobbies Half sister they share the same Dad but different Mother's and since Bobbies mother never married Charlies Dad she is not related to the MC not even as some form of Inlaw.

In order to be Half cousins if there is even such a tittle then Charlie would need some form of marrige or blood relation to the MC so unless Charlies Dad or Mother was in some way a related to the MC's Dad or Mother then there is no family relashonship between the MC and Charlie at best she's a Family Friend, or acquaintance to the MC no more than that.
She is Bobbies "half sister".
He is trying to fix his cousins family too.
Charlie is part of his cousins family due to the shared fathers for Charlie and Bobbie.
To fix his cousins side of the family, he also needs to fix Bobbies half sister.
Bobbie will remain broken due to her half sisters actions unless he can also heal those wounds also.
He cares a lot for Bobbie, so he has to fix Charlie too in order to fix Bobbies mental wounds.
Otherwise Bobbie will hate her own "half" sister, and have festering trust issues that he would have to find a way to deal with.
As it is, Bobbie has learned a valuable lesson and learned how to forgive family.
 
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She is Bobbies "half sister".
He is trying to fix his cousins family too.
Charlie is part of his cousins family due to the shared fathers for Charlie and Bobbie.
To fix his cousins side of the family, he also needs to fix Bobbies half sister.
Bobbie will remain broken due to her half sisters actions unless he can also heal those wounds also.
He cares a lot for Bobbie, so he has to fix Charlie too in order to fix Bobbies mental wounds.
Otherwise Bobbie will hate her own "half" sister, and have festering trust issues that he would have to find a way to deal with.
As it is, Bobbie has learned a valuable lesson and learned how to forgive family.
Hehe... Yep :D
 
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LWtbo

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Firrst of I'm not arguing that point and even State they are HALF SISTER's and if you read any of my post you might realise.
I'm all for MC helping Charlie and I even know why he is doing so and I have Infered it if not said as much.
So please don't try to use that as an argument to deflect from the fact that you wrote.

Charlie is Bobbies sister, that makes her a half cousin at the least.
And that was what I was disagreeing with.
You even contradicted yourself.

Not directly related to the MC, but she is directly related to Bobbie, who is important to the MC.
Bobbies whole family was fucked up, and he is on a mission to bring the family closer together, including his cousins family, so that would include Bobbies sister.
And you used that in responce to my attempting to explain how the situation with Charlie came about.
Not why the MC was helping her but since you did bring it up I was pointing out you were wrong In your first statment only.
If you ment Half Sister try saying it in the first place saves alot of confustion.

Not trying to Offend but if you quote me and then say something I consider incorrect I will point it out.
 
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DigDug69

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I admit that saying step cousin was pushing the limits, but how do you think they would treat the issue in real life or in the game. She is already being seen as part of the family, and as you said, she is not a cousin, or blood relative, but she is blood related to one member of the family, who she is a half sister to.
Based on that I chose to compare her to a step cousin, as it most closely describes her relationship to the MC's family.
She is the blood related half sister to a blood related cousin.
Maybe half cousin would be more appropriate.
I know that there is no known title for this situation, but then this situation would be rare as hell.
 
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LWtbo

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I admit that saying step cousin was pushing the limits, but how do you think they would treat the issue in real life or in the game. She is already being seen as part of the family, and as you said, she is not a cousin, or blood relative, but she is blood related to one member of the family, who she is a half sister to.
Based on that I chose to compare her to a step cousin, as it most closely describes her relationship to the MC's family.
She is the blood related half sister to a blood related cousin.
Maybe half cousin would be more appropriate.
I know that there is no known title for this situation, but then this situation would be rare as hell.
If I really had to descride Charlie's place in the MC's family I think it would be best described as unofficially adopted family member or honorary family member.
But there is a slim case for unofficially Adopted Daughter since Bobbie has unofficially adopted the MC as her new daddy.
And Charlie want's to do the same just calling him papa instead.

But thats just my opinion
 

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The line about the government leasing it was a joke. The MC points that out in the story and explains that he is the owner of the property.
And Gabriel also points that MC refuses to sell it to the gov.
Again, it's a matter of DISPROPORTION. For a deserved "insult" (someone really want to quibble about the fact she was a real, total bitch?), an agent is lectured/punished and she get a disproportionate compensation for that... She IS ("was", at best) a scum, it's so true that when she realized it, she wanted to die and became suicidal!. And I say "disproportion" because, at first play, I didn't even seen this "insult" as being "rude", considering who Charlie was.

And that's ALL. I point something that I found too illogical, even for a full-family harem porn game (so it shows you how much illogical I found it!), and I think this worth a minor rewrite: either the agent should have done "worse" to her, out of orders in particular, OR the compensation should be way less: i.e. instead of renting the flat for a lifetime, simply ALLOWS her to stay here under MC's supervision, instead of moving to a government-chosen place and being guarded by an agent, while Gabriel tells her that he's so generous only because it's for MC (and not for only her).

Nothing more, nothing less. And whatever, I SUGGEST something to envixer and he'll do WHAT HE WANTS. That's already too much discussion about something that I thought was a continuity bug, on the beginning.

And Bobbie is her sister who he wants to also make happy and fix the rifts in her family.
Problem is not here. MC's desires for his family are crystal clear, that's not the subject at all.
 
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And Gabriel also points that MC refuses to sell it to the gov.
Again, it's a matter of DISPROPORTION. For a deserved "insult" (someone really want to quibble about the fact she was a real, total bitch?), an agent is lectured/punished and she get a disproportionate compensation for that... She IS ("was", at best) a scum, it's so true that when she realized it, she wanted to die and became suicidal!. And I say "disproportion" because, at first play, I didn't even seen this "insult" as being "rude", considering who Charlie was.

And that's ALL. I point something that I found too illogical, even for a full-family harem porn game (so it shows you how much illogical I found it!), and I think this worth a minor rewrite: either the agent should have done "worse" to her, out of orders in particular, OR the compensation should be way less: i.e. instead of renting the flat for a lifetime, simply ALLOWS her to stay here under MC's supervision, instead of moving to a government-chosen place and being guarded by an agent, while Gabriel tells her that he's so generous only because it's for MC (and not for only her).

Nothing more, nothing less. And whatever, I SUGGEST something to envixer and he'll do WHAT HE WANTS. That's already too much discussion about something that I thought was a continuity bug, on the beginning.

Problem is not here. MC's desires for his family are crystal clear, that's not the subject at all.
Not here to argue with anyone, but I was just pointing out that the idea that the government was paying for her to live there was a joke, and not selling it to the government was part of the joke.
The MC owns the property and was letting her live there. He has shown himself to be very generous and he seems to be going out of his way to be nice to her.
With that said, I will no longer be responding to comments from you on the subject of this game, so that it does not continue.
 
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I just downloaded 15.1 with mega when i then play it at least 1/3 of the pages come up as errors. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a fix or did I get a flawed one of a kind download?
 

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I just downloaded 15.1 with mega when i then play it at least 1/3 of the pages come up as errors. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a fix or did I get a flawed one of a kind download?
Did you start from the beginning again?
Once you've started again and chosen a name for yourself, there is a skip to new content button.
 

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Playing the Mac version and I'm getting constant errors. At times it's like every two clicks, and maybe 3-5 after that if I'm lucky. It's been like this for the last several releases for me. Any other Mac users having an issue?
 

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I just downloaded 15.1 with mega when i then play it at least 1/3 of the pages come up as errors. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a fix or did I get a flawed one of a kind download?
Also, in addition to what I'm Not Thea Lundgren! said, did you unzipped the game in a new folder, or did you overwrite a previous installation?
With Ren'Py games, overwriting an old version with a new one is ALWAYS a bad choice...
Also, was it with or without a mod? Did you checked twice that the mod is up-to-date and compatible with this game version?
 

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Playing the Mac version and I'm getting constant errors. At times it's like every two clicks, and maybe 3-5 after that if I'm lucky. It's been like this for the last several releases for me. Any other Mac users having an issue?
Have you started a new game? Do you still get the errors if you do that?
 
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