-L-L-MJ-

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I'll rewrite and add some scenes in the prologue chapter along with the first chapter to make her less forceful in her approach. However, this will necessitate a full replay of the prologue chapter, which I don't think that most people would like to do.

I didn't expect people to hate her as much as they did. Maybe it's a writer's bias, or perhaps it's because I already knew her story while writing the prologue chapter.

There is an imbalance of power dynamics between the MC and Jenny, which is because she's rich and owns half of the school and the player being a normal person who comes from a farm. But the imbalance won't stay that way forever, in the next few chapters it'll shift and become a healthy relationship between Jenny and MC.
Honestly, I find it a little bit disheartening you are actually considering making changes here. It's like 3? people have expressed their subjective opinions which created a feedback loop where their viewpoints only got reinforced. Using buzz words like
"rape" "sexual harassment" "femdom" drawing a path or an image of a direction you are taking with Jenny of which I feel like it is completely inaccurate ( if given the time to develop the story further )

I feel like the biggest problem here is the readers/viewers lack of understanding her reasons, motives, intent. A small point would be the ending scene at the hospital with her "father" and Adam, how come this isn't being discussed?

Is there a power dynamic? Of course, does she hold some authority over the MC? Yes, is this at this point in time "femdom"? No
"Rape" Seriously, what game were you playing? "Sexual harassment" Probably... Are they young stupid and troubled? Yes.

Now is the above a problem? Hell no I think some are just afraid that the tone is set for this dynamic/interactions with her/for her.
While I think it's just an interesting development which will change and evolve or grow into something else entirely.

Now what I presume to be a minority have used this "tone" to lead a "discussion" which unfortunately seems more like taking over the narrative. Over the last few pages they have been very vocal about what they don't like and under the guise of constructive criticism made some ridiculous statements and a lot of speculation of where this is headed.

Now I believe the majority withholds pride & prejudice, jumping to conclusions in what we have seen so far.
Are open to the narrative that is being told by your creative freedom and can't wait to find out where this is going
and how things will develop further.

All in all I think it was an impressive first release, the character introductions were great the renders are amazing the way the stage is being set is enticing and leaves me wanting to find out more.
 

fantom2u

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I can understand the need for a blackmail tag, but a FemDom tag? Come on! This is hardly FemDom... in games with female characters coerced to do the same thing, there are no MaleDom tags... blackmail, and corruption mostly. FemDom and MaleDom hint at or include BDSM, which is not happening here. So yeah, blackmail perhaps. Anyway, I like the beginnings here, and indeed some polish is needed, but overall it is a better first release than most of the games on here. Good Luck Dev! Do not get disheartened.
 

oidex

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Yet another thread where toxic people are driving the Dev nuts. There's nothing evil about Jenny whatsoever :FacePalm:.
Now now, let's not get hasty with the name calling. Let's take a step back and look at this objectively.
First off, anyone with the slightest semblance of legal knowledge will tell you that the case is pretty clear cut. What Jenny does is a crime. Would you mind if it happened to yourself? Apparently not. That's your prerogative. But if you get convicted in this situation, you're going to jail, I can tell you that much.

Now TrueLoveGames has explicitly debunked the theories about Jenny being a manipulative villain. I must admit I also had my suspicions. I'm glad I was wrong though. She is supposed to be a good person at heart, and the bedroom scene reinforces that. I don't think it is at all toxic if people speak up and tell him that the scenario simply does not reflect that very well as of right now. No one is telling him to change the story he want's to tell. On the contrary, most comments and suggestions so far were aiming to bring the experience more in line with the vision he has stated he has for the game and characters. As for it being femdom, meh, that's apparently up for debate. I think it is, but I enjoy me a little femdom so that's not at all what's bothering me.

What rubs some people, including me, the wrong way is that you can't really have a character that's supposed to be good so brazenly and nonchalantly commit a crime, especially when it is directed at the player character, and then just sweep it under the rug and have everyone suddenly be the best of friends in the next scene. That's a non sequitur.

Lastly I want to say that I hope the dev doesn't get disheartened by people pointing that out, because I would rate this game 5 stars, even with the above mentioned. The visuals are superb, the characters are interesting, it has scenes that tug at your heartstrings, scenes that rile you up and scenes that get you going. It's just a great game, and with a few changes to iron out the kinks, it would be even better.

After all, why interact with the community during development, if you don't want feedback.
 

bigmacaroni

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Great first release! Loved meeting all the ladies and getting a sense of the setting. Really hard to do with a 0.1, so kudos! Very impressive. I think Jenny was my favorite character model.

I have a suggestion though, TrueLoveGames: any thoughts about developing a petname system for the girls during lewd scenes? As in, giving the player the option to set a personal nickname for each girl to call the MC ("sir," "Master," "Daddy" etc.) during lewd scenes? I don't think it's very hard to implement in the early stages of development, but goes a long way towards distinguishing the girls from each other and giving each player a unique experience.

Looking forward to the next update! Should be great.
 

someremove

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Great first release! Loved meeting all the ladies and getting a sense of the setting. Really hard to do with a 0.1, so kudos! Very impressive. I think Jenny was my favorite character model.

I have a suggestion though, TrueLoveGames: any thoughts about developing a petname system for the girls during lewd scenes? As in, giving the player the option to set a personal nickname for each girl to call the MC ("sir," "Master," "Daddy" etc.) during lewd scenes? I don't think it's very hard to implement in the early stages of development, but goes a long way towards distinguishing the girls from each other and giving each player a unique experience.

Looking forward to the next update! Should be great.
+1 to petname system!! definitely should do it!
 

xXwankerXx

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I don't think it is at all toxic if people speak up and tell him that the scenario simply does not reflect that very well as of right now. No one is telling him to change the story he want's to tell.
Nah, it's all good, screaming stupid shit like "man rape" and "hot blonde rich bitch sexually harasses the MC" is just an opinion in a PORN GAME. Breaking news, nobody gives a shit about morality and decency in porn games, it's all fiction, ppl play porn games so they can do the shit they can't do IRL bcz of the repercussions. That's what porn games and porn movies do... they allow their audience to live their fantasies and kinks. There is no legal repercussions, just a plot and some women getting fucked for the fans.

Calling another objective nonoffensive opinion "the stupidest comment you ever read" (guess you read a lot of comments cause there IS worse than that or u simply read something and understood something else:unsure:) it's not stupid or toxic, it's just an opinion.;) Funny how almost nobody bats an eye at the disturbing image of psycho Valery after the credits but they lose their shit over a striptease. Guess "rape" is worse than murder.:FacePalm:

The only thing that we all can agree on is that the aforementioned scene was out of place and out of character for a future LI and a supposedly good character. It doesn't make her look good to the players even if she's a sexy woman. Dev came clean, now he should add that to the script in the next update so we can all be on the same page and the game doesn't get a bad rep over a silly misunderstanding.

TrueLoveGames can you please tell us what's the estimated release schedule for the next updates ??
 
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Meridian

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So many games where a female is forced to do the same in reverse and it's just...crickets...but people of course should be free to express their opinions and a dev should feel free to accept or ignore such discussion as they wish.
Its just crickets because men who do this kind of thing to women are never meant to be good wholesome people whom you are supposed to like in porn games. Jenny making main character do that stuff is not the problem. Real problem is portraying her as morally good character with whom main character instantly forms friendship, it just doesnt make sense if she does this kind of stuff.
 

TessSadist

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Its just crickets because men who do this kind of thing to women are never meant to be good wholesome people whom you are supposed to like in porn games. Jenny making main character do that stuff is not the problem. Real problem is portraying her as morally good character with whom main character instantly forms friendship, it just doesnt make sense if she does this kind of stuff.
I haven't played this yet so can't comment specifically but have seen this happen to females who later are in relationships with the males that did this in a game.
 

Osamabeenfappin

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I haven't played this yet so can't comment specifically but have seen this happen to females who later are in relationships with the males that did this in a game.

Usually in that case it's the MC doing it. You rarely see that behaviour from an NPC outside of NTR games,unless their the antagonist of a game.
 
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