VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus Scenes S2 7-8] [Hangover Cat Purrroduction]

[taragrey204]

"Revenge cuck" aka "pwease add kill the Luca ending" is most pathetic excuse for NTR-addiction.

Thanks, I value and cherish your comments. But to clarify, I don't care about Harry. I want to see Laura debase herself to someone she loved, then hated. I want to see her fear the source of those original emotions, terrified until she is nothing more than a quivering toy who can only seek refuge from that fear through pleasure. Luca's place in her life is born from corruption of her original innocence, she doesn't have that original connection to him that she considered pure. That connection to Harry though, those memories of what she lost would torment her. And losing that new state of mind with Luca would be further torment because she has nothing left to fall back on.

You get off on Harry's humiliation all you want, I'm fine with that and can totally understand it even though that's not what flips my switch. I identify with Laura, and a continuing downward spiral for her is exciting for me to vicariously enjoy.

 

[Yevaud6]

Has anyone fixed the split cg issue?

haven't seen a response to it, but I also don't know if the creators actually still active on this thread. Cross my fingers for next update if I don't see a response before then.

 

[tseug]

haven't seen a response to it, but I also don't know if the creators actually still active on this thread. Cross my fingers for next update if I don't see a response before then.

Main reason of that bug it's a size of original pictures and transform operations applied to them. You can resize all pictures to 1080p but they will smaller in game. Need to modify scripts as well, but they in compiled (binary) form.

 

[Morgan_Freeuser]

Damn, i expected not a lot honestly - but shit this game got me good. I was seriously involved really feeling it. Have only played Harry's pov, dont think i will play the other POV for now, waiting for more Content.

 

[Shatteredstar]

Can i climb this wall? ughhh it will require some heavy cutting.

Different appeal, AtelierSakura games are netorase for the most part and i don't like them at all. The one in your example got some netorare sparkled at top but all and all MC has the NTR kink and it backfires on him.



First of she is not acting on reason, second I've explained what drives Laura to hate Harry in the post you quoted. What do you make out of it?
Luca is probably just bully, they don't need reason they need prey, maybe Harry is just his favorite one.


Think about it as sticking a paper on someones back with some humiliating words. If he realizes that quickly the fun is short, but if he keeps walking with it you just keep having fun just looking at other people reactions and his reactions to them. At some point you don't even care about if he learns about it because you had so much fun already with they way he got humiliated without knowing.

I hope that explains it well that in humiliation person being humiliated doesn't need to know as far as bully/bystanders are concerned.

I think what you are seeking is simply not here, not in this route at least.



IT is absolutely real for one to marry for financial stability but be in love and fuck someone else regularly.
I wouldn't say that story was thrown for the sake of porn, the story from the very beginning was meant to be the carry for porn.


Here again, you just want MC to be aware of things - that does happen for end 1 for the route.
Her reason is hate, also she does have reason to keep things in secret - MC will support her and the kids for foreseeable future. It also means she can continue to get the kick out of cheating and humiliating him.



Those games /stories assume that the reader inserts themselves into the MC position. aPBLU doesn't. That is why there is the pov selection at start. That is why you have this route that keeps MC out of the loop.


Same as above. Let me just add that you expect sane behavior from someone that has undergone blackmail, rape, through mental training, all while pretending everything is fine in front of others. No i think she is simply insane in her hate, except rather then stabbing him to death she will cheat.
Regarding kids and future - i don't think Laura really thought about it, she will be taking one day at the time as long as this sex haze lasts.

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That wall of text... I like VNs too much. TLDR: Atelier Sakura games are not all netorase, use hookTL. Laura is acting ooc. The 'family' route, as is, lacks subtly and believably. Routes don't change how VNs are played. Games get critiqued. Game's kinda good. I think Harry and Aya's topless drugged CG is missing. I mean we get a CG of Aya's butt, Laura's remote vibe up her skirt. Let's go.

You should read the sequel to Mayumi. It has an interesting twist regarding the event which sparked MC'S fetish, though it does clarify that

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Regarding 0.6.0, I definitely have a different understanding regarding people's "dark inner selves" than other people here. This being fiction, it has its own internal logic that doesn't need to be (and often benefits from NOT being) realistic. People have inner demons, dark sides, two wolves, or other euphemisms for internal motivations that aren't expressed, but their presence doesn't foretell some unavoidable outcome. Had Laura been honest with Harry about not just what happened with Luca, but her complex feelings about her parents, she could have overcome the toxic influence of her traumas. That potential for a happy ending makes the outcomes of the "Normal" endings more tragic/thrilling/unenjoyable/hot (YMMV). I see a lot more about Harry that could have saved Laura in "Family" that I didn't in "Future", and I think Laura does too. She still conflicted in "Family", but now she's inverted from how she started. In the "Family" ending, Laura is repressing her "good" side. Unwilling to face her "inner angel".

I think it's interesting. But also less erotically thrilling, imo. I look forward to more endings.

I'm sure we'll get more answers regarding the "I'm Sorry." in other endings, but it feels out of place and lacking in meaning here.

Yeah I've read the sequel. It invalidates the impact of her betrayal, and places much of the blame on her. In the beginning of the first game she is likable, trying to please her husband, then becoming corrupted by the end, at the full and complete fault of MC. In the sequel she just gets gross, acting terrible to her husband, having sex with anyone she can at the swingers club. Even so far as to bang her husbands rival, bully... Keep in mind it's been awhile sense I've played it, so the details may be off, but he's a early plot point of the first game, critical to how the MC fell in love with MH. Player agency is better, as we can get MC to throw her out. It's not bad, it's just up to what the original was.

I think your approach to the narrative is the one to go with. Kinda like giving it a crutch. Super hacker is Aya? eh? I don't know, but it sounds cool.

 

[wonderland19903]

It is so beautiful.

 

[Terix3]

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That wall of text... I like VNs too much. TLDR: Atelier Sakura games are not all netorase, use hookTL. Laura is acting ooc. The 'family' route, as is, lacks subtly and believably. Routes don't change how VNs are played. Games get critiqued. Game's kinda good. I think Harry and Aya's topless drugged CG is missing. I mean we get a CG of Aya's butt, Laura's remote vibe up her skirt. Let's go.



Yeah I've read the sequel. It invalidates the impact of her betrayal, and places much of the blame on her. In the beginning of the first game she is likable, trying to please her husband, then becoming corrupted by the end, at the full and complete fault of MC. In the sequel she just gets gross, acting terrible to her husband, having sex with anyone she can at the swingers club. Even so far as to bang her husbands rival, bully... Keep in mind it's been awhile sense I've played it, so the details may be off, but he's a early plot point of the first game, critical to how the MC fell in love with MH. Player agency is better, as we can get MC to throw her out. It's not bad, it's just up to what the original was.

I think your approach to the narrative is the one to go with. Kinda like giving it a crutch. Super hacker is Aya? eh? I don't know, but it sounds cool.

Thanks for your suggestion but i need the games to be playable offline, so the hook stuff is not usable.

Regarding your wall of text i will keep it short.

I know, the fundamental aspect of Atelier games is they assume one inserts oneself into MC(male) or at least is interested in the MC struggle.. This is not for me, i don't care about MC at all. I will feel bad if he is suffering too much as per aspect of empathy but per approach he is useful idiot.

You touch on the subject of scenes lacking realism, that MC should realize she is having sex. Let me quote myself from older post :

"Realism is needed to develop the story, characters, to make their feelings relatable, their troubles easily understood.

Realism is NOT needed in sex scenes. In ntr the scenes need to be possible rather than probable."

Harry's doesn't realize she is cheating because he is afraid of being betrayed.. He is afraid to the point that he denies such possibility. Not only he will grasp on any excuse but also will avoid situation that could show him truth. This happens to people with trauma. You may notice that to a point Harry is/can be suspicious of Laura, but then he has the moment of recalling his past, opening the closet he locked and after that point he never considers Laura could be cheating ever again.

So i very much disagree that normal 2 (you refer it as family) is poorly written. It is excellent as far as I'm concerned. That doesn't mean that some things couldn't be improved (mug), but I'm not looking for things that you are looking for.

 

[n.t.locc]

can anybody upload the new saved file?

 

[jaden000]

Thanks for your suggestion but i need the games to be playable offline, so the hook stuff is not usable.

Regarding your wall of text i will keep it short.

I know, the fundamental aspect of Atelier games is they assume one inserts oneself into MC(male) or at least is interested in the MC struggle.. This is not for me, i don't care about MC at all. I will feel bad if he is suffering too much as per aspect of empathy but per approach he is useful idiot.

You touch on the subject of scenes lacking realism, that MC should realize she is having sex. Let me quote myself from older post :

"Realism is needed to develop the story, characters, to make their feelings relatable, their troubles easily understood.

Realism is NOT needed in sex scenes. In ntr the scenes need to be possible rather than probable."

Harry's doesn't realize she is cheating because he is afraid of being betrayed.. He is afraid to the point that he denies such possibility. Not only he will grasp on any excuse but also will avoid situation that could show him truth. This happens to people with trauma. You may notice that to a point Harry is/can be suspicious of Laura, but then he has the moment of recalling his past, opening the closet he locked and after that point he never considers Laura could be cheating ever again.

So i very much disagree that normal 2 (you refer it as family) is poorly written. It is excellent as far as I'm concerned. That doesn't mean that some things couldn't be improved (mug), but I'm not looking for things that you are looking for.

I am curious what are your top 5 NTR works?

 

[Yevaud6]

Main reason of that bug it's a size of original pictures and transform operations applied to them. You can resize all pictures to 1080p but they will smaller in game. Need to modify scripts as well, but they in compiled (binary) form.

I'm confused. I went in and changed the screen size in game and it did nothing. Also, the pictures used to be completely normal 2 or 3 updates ago. Did they go in and change all the picture sizes at that time? If it is a matter of adjusting something and it's not the in game screen size options, where am I supposed to change it.

...and just for curiousity sake, is the reason they changed all the scene picture sizes a few releases back known?

 

[tseug]

I'm confused. I went in and changed the screen size in game and it did nothing.

It's not about screen size, it's about pictures size. They all in 4k but most of players using 1080p resolution, so game need transform them (down scale) and that operation broken. If you scale down all pictures, then game show them without split bug but game will try scale down them anyway so they will smaller on the screen.

 

[Terix3]

I am curious what are your top 5 NTR works?

Do note that nothing really comes close to writing quality of HC games, those games i'm about to name are for the lack of better ones mostly. So besides aPBLU and Edge of :
Fleeting Iris
NTR Homestay
Young wife Souffle
Mischief War
To H...
Netorare Wife Misumi
RaiohGar: Asuka
Yea, would need to pick top 5 out of those, some i played really long time ago and i may have inflated opinion on them.

 

[Yevaud6]

It's not about screen size, it's about pictures size. They all in 4k but most of players using 1080p resolution, so game need transform them (down scale) and that operation broken. If you scale down all pictures, then game show them without split bug but game will try scale down them anyway so they will smaller on the screen.

why is it necessary to do this now as opposed to them all being completely fine and normal in 5.0?

Are you saying I need to go to each individual picture and crop/edit them? I'm really not going to do that, if that's the case.
I was posting because I thought it was a bug. But if the creator literally changed his pictures so they will only work on 4k and not 1080. That's kind of screwed this whole thing. I'll keep an eye out to see if it ever gets fixed. But I'm not going to alter ever picture file in the game to make it function again.

 

[Terix3]

Geez, other game developer are just mad that HC made better games than them. Look at sedid reviews lol, didnt even care to look at ongoing plan and routes.

I knew several game devs that purposedly rate 1-3 stars & ask their 'minions' to bring down the rating of other games (case of aura-dev vs heaven studios), shame on you!

Nothing that we can prove but yea the last reviews lack merit or are just misinformed.
"Yeah, I get that's what unavoidable in unavoidable NTR stands for. Well, I don't like unavoidable things in games. "
Sure great, maybe don't review games you don't like on principle ?
" So, I cannot say I have some shapely certain complaints about this game ... you'd rather play from the side of that criminal antagonist " You either don't know and you don't review, or you know it is not the type of NTR you are looking for and you don't review either.
"On the cover, we see two chicks and a guy... Well, after 11 versions, this is still not the case " This one takes the cake, he knows how many versions it was but doesn't know the game is barely 11 months in development or what is the content plan. Wanna go and nuke review every game that is not done after one year?

It's not about screen size, it's about pictures size. They all in 4k but most of players using 1080p resolution, so game need transform them (down scale) and that operation broken. If you scale down all pictures, then game show them without split bug but game will try scale down them anyway so they will smaller on the screen.

why is it necessary to do this now as opposed to them all being completely fine and normal in 5.0?

Are you saying I need to go to each individual picture and crop/edit them? I'm really not going to do that, if that's the case.
I was posting because I thought it was a bug. But if the creator literally changed his pictures so they will only work on 4k and not 1080. That's kind of screwed this whole thing. I'll keep an eye out to see if it ever gets fixed. But I'm not going to alter ever picture file in the game to make it function again.

The resizing may be the problem but game certainly plays fine on 1080. No idea if the dev is already aware of the issue, but i would imagine he would need some kind of information on your spec/system to pin it down.

 

[tseug]

why is it necessary to do this now as opposed to them all being completely fine and normal in 5.0?

Are you saying I need to go to each individual picture and crop/edit them? I'm really not going to do that, if that's the case.
I was posting because I thought it was a bug. But if the creator literally changed his pictures so they will only work on 4k and not 1080. That's kind of screwed this whole thing. I'll keep an eye out to see if it ever gets fixed. But I'm not going to alter ever picture file in the game to make it function again.

It's not hard to resize them, it's just don't solve whole problem. And that problem I'm suppose happens depends on gpu/os specs as well. It's worked fine before probably cause he used lower resolution for pictures (need old version for check) or he changed something in scripts and broke it not intentionally.

 

[jaden000]

Do note that nothing really comes close to writing quality of HC games, those games i'm about to name are for the lack of better ones mostly. So besides aPBLU and Edge of :
Fleeting Iris
NTR Homestay
Young wife Souffle
Mischief War
To H...
Netorare Wife Misumi
RaiohGar: Asuka
Yea, would need to pick top 5 out of those, some i played really long time ago and i may have inflated opinion on them.

You didn’t play Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei since that seems like the holy grail of NTR in a lot of ppl I’ve seen talk about and I agree for the most like some of those games have great art like I am a big fan of Anim team artstyle but the connections between the characters falls flat or isn’t developed enough.

 

[Tonytiger13]

just played the game going through the harry perspective I assumed that would be reccomended two questions so are the different endings just different ntr endings? and is Aya actually want the mc or just being a distraction I think it's the second one because i trust nothing the girls say.

 

[Sedid]

Geez, other game developer are just mad that HC made better games than them. Look at sedid reviews lol, didnt even care to look at ongoing plan and routes.

I knew several game devs that purposedly rate 1-3 stars & ask their 'minions' to bring down the rating of other games (case of aura-dev vs heaven studios), shame on you!

I have seen the routes, thank you very much. When you read a book or watch a TV show with several protagonists, do you follow their adventures one by one? No, because that would be pretty damn boring. And that's what's happening right now.

I don't care what you say. That's my honest opinion, and I really had high hopes for this game at the beginning.

My game has nothing to do with that. I gave up on it long ago, and if I had enjoyed A Promise Best Left Unkept, I would have given it 5 stars without hesitation, and with pleasure.

It's amazing how much fanboys can't stand it if you criticize something they like.

 

[Terix3]

I have seen the routes, thank you very much. When you read a book or watch a TV show with several protagonists, do you follow their adventures one by one? No, because that would be pretty damn boring. And that's what's happening right now.

I don't care what you say. That's my honest opinion, and I really had high hopes for this game at the beginning.

My game has nothing to do with that. I gave up on it long ago, and if I had enjoyed A Promise Best Left Unkept, I would have given it 5 stars without hesitation, and with pleasure.

It's amazing how much fanboys can't stand it if you criticize something they like.

You do. You have protagonists that have separate stories and their ways don't cross until much later. Or you have stories where you have additional protagonists added much later to the story, yet you can see them in the cover art or intros.
Cover just shows characters present at some point, it doesn't mean they are the main protagonists. If you read the overview it is clear that is not about the girls but the guy and only one girl is mentioned. Main protagonist ain't even on the art.

To top it all off, Aya is very much present in the story from the start. Then the story splits and currently developed route doesn't doesn't include her but the others will. If you don't understand that the game is in development what there is to say ?
Opinions also speak about the ones that make them.

 

[lkjhgfdfghjkl]

When you read a book or watch a TV show with several protagonists, do you follow their adventures one by one?

Books or TV shows don't usually have branching paths that force the viewer to keep a specific character distant from the mc