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[WastedTalent]

First of all the set up of MC was completely unbelievable. Nobody in the corporate world dating or not would give someone else access to their office especially passwords and pin codes that kind of thing. So the entire set up of the story falls short. Secondly Laura could have easily avoided this guy. All she had to do was record him talking and then report him. He would be the one in trouble not the MC and not her. Because it would expose him as a saboteur and she could educate MC privately to say the two of them planned it all to get the jerk in trouble. But that's why we call it porn logic. For me there is nothing exciting in this story at all. Yes the models are nice but the concept makes my skin crawl. I checked out the first release and as soon as Laura agreed so easily that was it for me. Also the antagonist, nobody in the corporate world would work with someone like him. I don't care about connections or whatever he is too easy to read. anyway onto something I will enjoy.

 

[desmosome]

Thanks for the replies. I'm glad it pushed the debate farther.



I would not spend this much time critiquing a game I didn't like. Any good story has to present a good conflict with a satisfying conclusion. This genre has interesting conflicts between MC, MH, and Antag. MH conflicts with Antag, and to a lesser degree MC, with her relationship with MC on the line.

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... but Harry doesn't get that. Understandably Harry's agency in the story is limited in the game's incomplete form and in this route he is oblivious. Which throws all fault at Laura once the app goes open alpha. Harry couldn't react to what he doesn't know. He doesn't have a chance to be strong or even weak. He never asked for this. There is no conflict at all between Harry and any of the characters. He has no clue that he's drinking Luca's semen with his coffee. He just going to wake up one day 20 years or so later and somehow Laura will be flicking it to telling him his children aren't blood related to him. It's kind of bad.

Laura leaving Harry with two of Luca's kids. Letting him believe they are his, would check the boxes in a far more believable way. She somehow, comically, hates the very air around Harry so much she could never tolerate another second around him much less jump on his penis. We don't have the full game, so my thoughts on the story could be wrong.

For instance why does Luca hate Harry so much? Harry may have done something extremely horrible to Luca or his family, and all this is Harry's just desserts. Laura does not have a reason to do this to Harry. The man works long hours to support her, even through her disgusting physical changes, and her child single-handedly, through this route. Luca, however, may have good reasons, they'd have to be very good reasons to justify this level of pure hatred. I don't even know if it counts as humiliation, there's no reveal to give that reaction to Harry. It's like what happens in 'The Edge of', one the routes has the MC basically becoming mentally ill. To point of nothing happening seems real. Then the check boxes get ticked.




I understand addiction is horrific. I personally seen so many terrible tragic events in the people around me, to due drugs and foods.

I can't say I've seen the same, at least not comparable to this story, with sex. Still I don't doubt it, the world is a big place.

HC is very much doing a good job and there is plenty of room to grow, to refine the craft. I don't know if the design doc and scope of the game will allow as rich of a story as seen in the beginning of the story. The first route delivers that just fine though. Not that I don't like the lighter, but somewhat still heavy do to the content, stories of Gyaruzuma Sex, Gal Kano, Gal Wife Anri, and My Beloved Childhood Friend. They are just sexy, eros, no strings attached fantasy. Maybe this route is suppose to be just like this. Comically evil Laura activated eyes meme route. Throwing the story in favor of ticking the boxes. Not great, but not totally bad. I mean for a truly realistic story, Laura would've just called the police, her bosses, and everyone she could to get the story out, but that means no sexy time.



Yeah, it's fair to say that the normal future route is good. Nothing too forced narrative wise. It does what so many games, manga, anime, fail to deliver; a good believable tragic story, with porn of course. You may be right and I just find that the MC knowing nothing makes the story fall flat with no real conclusion. I'm not completely sure on that point. Though moral degeneration/corruption and evil are not completely the same. Laura banging Luca cause it feels good, even if it's wrong, is corruption. Now annihilating Harry's life, short of killing him, for no reason, no gain, is evil. It's far darker than Laura's moral degeneration. What I don't understand is why Laura would be so evil? Luca is part of it, but not to that level. Laura's body is sexy, she could easily setup a train to run on her, if she didn't want to go along with Luca and the terrible acts they did to Harry. Would be a narratively sound way to check the 'MC sees MH in the middle of a gangbang' box. Solidifying the corruption/moral degradation angle.

In Jin's Tachiban story MC gets at least a light reveal. Yamakumo's Atarasii Oneesan MC's truely tragic, foolish actions, and inaction, double impact, causes his relationship with MH to change forever. It's left open for sequel bait, but still stands on it's on with a proper conclusion. Seto Yuuki's Chitose has the MC dive penis first into the degenerancy, only to come up for air and realize his relationship he wanted with MH was already gone.

The choice to not go along with the story and avoid to the whole mess, fleshes it out. What would happen if MC just said no? Just being able to do that increases player agency many times over. Give the player clear idea of what MC is crushing, what he's missing out on, with his choices and actions. MC knows, why not let the player see? Even if it just cuts to an ending, far better with a lovely scene as a reward, or even a middling scene as in Please Bang My Wife 2 Sequel. That's something that manga can't do. Something that 'Scars of Summer' completely missed out on.

What I want is that good writing that I know HC can write. The title screen CG is totally hot, I only wish we could pop Aya's boobs out, though I get the sense that it's tied to progression now. Oh, and where is the CG of Aya drugged and topless? I know that's rich coming from a post on this site, but still. So far if just this route is kind of bad, I'd be fine with it. I'd still call 'Promise Best Left Unkept' a great game, one of the best really in the genre.

You folks got me thinking about so many things I normally don't think about; What I like about the genre and which stories in it I like best, addiction, corruption, evil, and so on. Thanks. I hope the feedback helps as it's all I can give.

We have just 2 endings so far. Normal route (aka hard NTR) has 2 of the harsher outcomes for the male MC. As I said, the more hopeful NTR endings like what you see in Azienda games is likely gonna be the good route ending (although that's still speculation on my part).

As for Laura being evil, one of the major focus in the story was Laura's innate demons and how her psychology was twisted by Luca. I mean, that was the point of the corruption arc. The end point is where she loses all respect for Harry, but keeps him around because its fun to cheat on him. It enhances her sex life. She'd rather have him there to be cucked unknowngly than to just run off with Luca. And Luca also enjoys this situation more than something more standard. That's fucked up, but it's not like she's being evil just to make Harry suffer for no reason. He is fodder for her enjoyment, so there is a selfish cunt justification for it.


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On a different note, I saw some discussions about the hacker in the previous pages. I'm pretty certain that the culprit is Aya.

1. She has been shown multiple times to be extremely sharp and intelligent. Her clutzy persona is almost certainly a front. Towards the end, when she is compemplating giving up on Harry, she is quite serious and mysterious. There is definitely something more to her.
2. Genius hacker acting like a horrible coder just seems like a very natural character trope.
3. This "sorry" reveal at the end makes quite a bit of sense from a dev perspective to foreshadow her character development in Aya route.
4. Someone pointed out that Aya has been said to leave messages for Harry in the comments. That is a strong hint.

If I had to guess, Aya is maybe a plant from another company to sabotage the project. She falls for Harry and is having second thoughts. When she realizes she can't win Harry, she reluctantly just completes her job and peaces out. She still feels bad for it, so she leaves the sorry.

As for why it probably isn't Laura.

1. If the code was inserted very early in development, it would be before her corruption. It makes no sense. That would require a rule, and even then, Laura wouldn't let that kinda rule stand at that stage. She would cancel it with priority. Plus, we've seen all the rules revealed, it makes no sense for just this rule to be completely hidden with not even a hint.
2. If the code was inserted late in development, after she was corrupted, she wouldn't really feel bad about it to add that comment.
3. But most importantly, Laura is not in the department doing the codes. There was never any indication that she was good at coding, let alone being a genius that could stump Harry.

As for Harry's ex, it's possible, but that would just be some wild speculation since she isn't an actual character yet. It doesn't really make sense narratively imo. She's almost certainly a whore for Luca after the childhood NTR thing, so the motivation would be there. She might feel sorry about it, but it's just a weak plug narrative wise. Aya seems more fitting.

 

[Shatteredstar]

We have just 2 endings so far. Normal route (aka hard NTR) has 2 of the harsher outcomes for the male MC. As I said, the more hopeful NTR endings like what you see in Azienda games is likely gonna be the good route ending (although that's still speculation on my part).

As for Laura being evil, one of the major focus in the story was Laura's innate demons and how her psychology was twisted by Luca. I mean, that was the point of the corruption arc. The end point is where she loses all respect for Harry, but keeps him around because its fun to cheat on him. It enhances her sex life. She'd rather have him there to be cucked unknowngly than to just run off with Luca. And Luca also enjoys this situation more than something more standard. That's fucked up, but it's not like she's being evil just to make Harry suffer for no reason. He is fodder for her enjoyment, so there is a selfish cunt justification for it.


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On a different note, I saw some discussions about the hacker in the previous pages. I'm pretty certain that the culprit is Aya.

1. She has been shown multiple times to be extremely sharp and intelligent. Her clutzy persona is almost certainly a front. Towards the end, when she is compemplating giving up on Harry, she is quite serious and mysterious. There is definitely something more to her.
2. Genius hacker acting like a horrible coder just seems like a very natural character trope.
3. This "sorry" reveal at the end makes quite a bit of sense from a dev perspective to foreshadow her character development in Aya route.
4. Someone pointed out that Aya has been said to leave messages for Harry in the comments. That is a strong hint.

If I had to guess, Aya is maybe a plant from another company to sabotage the project. She falls for Harry and is having second thoughts. When she realizes she can't win Harry, she reluctantly just completes her job and peaces out. She still feels bad for it, so she leaves the sorry.

As for why it probably isn't Laura.

1. If the code was inserted very early in development, it would be before her corruption. It makes no sense. That would require a rule, and even then, Laura wouldn't let that kinda rule stand at that stage. She would cancel it with priority. Plus, we've seen all the rules revealed, it makes no sense for just this rule to be completely hidden with not even a hint.
2. If the code was inserted late in development, after she was corrupted, she wouldn't really feel bad about it to add that comment.
3. But most importantly, Laura is not in the department doing the codes. There was never any indication that she was good at coding, let alone being a genius that could stump Harry.

As for Harry's ex, it's possible, but that would just be some wild speculation since she isn't an actual character yet. It doesn't really make sense narratively imo. She's almost certainly a whore for Luca after the childhood NTR thing, so the motivation would be there. She might feel sorry about it, but it's just a weak plug narrative wise. Aya seems more fitting.

Still can't get behind Laura not being comically evil. She finds cheating sex hot, fine shes become a cheater. Luca and her get more fast and lose with where they cheat, why not understandable, sick but understandable. Tricking Harry into drinking Luca's semen, heh gonna call doubt on that. That's some very specific fetishes shes developed in like what 2 months. Job under Luca, doesn't really feel in anyway sexual, wrong sure, but not hot. Thinking about how hot it would be to tell Harry 20 years later that his children are not his? How does one patiently wait and somehow get the sexual gratification on that one? What would the kids think about their mother? So Laura assumes the role of a evil bitch, monster, thing, that could never have loved Harry, or anyone, at any point, to make him suffer? No, the answer is just ticking the boxes. The whole situation is just hitting the genres fetish check list. I don't think it even counts as making Harry suffer since he doesn't know. That's fine, it's not good, but it kind of works. Nothing like the other route so far.

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The Aya hacker theory is spot on. Matches her quick uptake on what Luca is. Throughout the story she drops her front and shows something that could be the genius hacker. I like this idea, crazy good foreshadowing. Gonna be a long wait, but it should be worth it. Maybe we will get more clues in later updates.

edit: added depiction of Laura in thoughtful repose.

 

[Yesismy]

Someone have the full gallery unlock for the android version

 

[AL.d]

First of all the set up of MC was completely unbelievable. Nobody in the corporate world dating or not would give someone else access to their office especially passwords and pin codes that kind of thing. So the entire set up of the story falls short. Secondly Laura could have easily avoided this guy. All she had to do was record him talking and then report him. He would be the one in trouble not the MC and not her. Because it would expose him as a saboteur and she could educate MC privately to say the two of them planned it all to get the jerk in trouble. But that's why we call it porn logic. For me there is nothing exciting in this story at all. Yes the models are nice but the concept makes my skin crawl. I checked out the first release and as soon as Laura agreed so easily that was it for me. Also the antagonist, nobody in the corporate world would work with someone like him. I don't care about connections or whatever he is too easy to read. anyway onto something I will enjoy.

You have to consider that even in rl cases of blackmail, the victim has to make some dumb decisions in order for it to happen. Decisions that mostly have to do with the victim's personality. And in the context of these games, it's not far fetched to think that person somewhat wants to get involved in this (even sub-consciously).

This game is based around Laura's flawed character who won't back down from a challenge. A character who for years maintains an illusion of control but deep inside yearns to lose it. It's not that unrealistic, especially for porn game standards. She wanted to play this game, even if she doesn't acknowledge it. When that urge can be easily rationalized by her as "protecting her wimpy loved one", it's easy to fall for the trap.

People doing extremely illogical things because of deep-seated mental issues, is nothing new irl and pretty common after all.

....I understand addiction is horrific. I personally seen so many terrible tragic events in the people around me, to due drugs and foods.

I can't say I've seen the same, at least not comparable to this story, with sex. Still I don't doubt it, the world is a big place...

You probably have seen it but the other way around. A happy family man gradually being groomed to eventually wreck his home in favor of being pussy-led by some golddigger. And depending on the financial situation with quite a bit of fin-dom involved. It's more subtle than the big dick chad corrupting the woman in these games, but the psychological manipulation aspect is pretty much the same. And just as scary.

 

[Sedid]

The art is amazing, it is the best I've seen on F95, but the story is frustrating.

It was supposed to be a game with two heroines, and it feels like there is only one actually.

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Weren't the endings with Laura supposed to be reached after 8 months of development?

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

Has anyone fixed the split cg issue?

 

[Terix3]

Can i climb this wall? ughhh it will require some heavy cutting.

in Lendable Wife - Mayumi,
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but Harry doesn't get that.

Different appeal, AtelierSakura games are netorase for the most part and i don't like them at all. The one in your example got some netorare sparkled at top but all and all MC has the NTR kink and it backfires on him.

... far more believable way... She somehow, comically, hates the very air around Harry...

For instance why does Luca hate Harry so much? Harry may have done something extremely horrible to Luca or his family, and all this is Harry's just desserts. Laura does not have a reason to do this to Harry. ..

First of she is not acting on reason, second I've explained what drives Laura to hate Harry in the post you quoted. What do you make out of it?
Luca is probably just bully, they don't need reason they need prey, maybe Harry is just his favorite one.

I don't even know if it counts as humiliation, there's no reveal to give that reaction to Harry. ...

Think about it as sticking a paper on someones back with some humiliating words. If he realizes that quickly the fun is short, but if he keeps walking with it you just keep having fun just looking at other people reactions and his reactions to them. At some point you don't even care about if he learns about it because you had so much fun already with they way he got humiliated without knowing.

I hope that explains it well that in humiliation person being humiliated doesn't need to know as far as bully/bystanders are concerned.

I think what you are seeking is simply not here, not in this route at least.

I understand addiction is horrific. I personally seen so many terrible tragic events in the people around me, to due drugs and foods.

I can't say I've seen the same, at least not comparable to this story, with sex. Still I don't doubt it, the world is a big place.

... Maybe this route is suppose to be just like this. Comically evil Laura activated eyes meme route. Throwing the story in favor of ticking the boxes. Not great, but not totally bad. I mean for a truly realistic story, Laura would've just called the police, her bosses, and everyone she could to get the story out, but that means no sexy time.

IT is absolutely real for one to marry for financial stability but be in love and fuck someone else regularly.
I wouldn't say that story was thrown for the sake of porn, the story from the very beginning was meant to be the carry for porn.

You may be right and I just find that the MC knowing nothing makes the story fall flat with no real conclusion. I'm not completely sure on that point. Though moral degeneration/corruption and evil are not completely the same. Laura banging Luca cause it feels good, even if it's wrong, is corruption. Now annihilating Harry's life, short of killing him, for no reason, no gain, is evil. It's far darker than Laura's moral degeneration. What I don't understand is why Laura would be so evil? Luca is part of it, but not to that level. Laura's body is sexy, she could easily setup a train to run on her, if she didn't want to go along with Luca and the terrible acts they did to Harry. Would be a narratively sound way to check the 'MC sees MH in the middle of a gangbang' box. Solidifying the corruption/moral degradation angle.

Here again, you just want MC to be aware of things - that does happen for end 1 for the route.
Her reason is hate, also she does have reason to keep things in secret - MC will support her and the kids for foreseeable future. It also means she can continue to get the kick out of cheating and humiliating him.

Jin's Tachiban, Please Bang My Wife 2 Sequel. 'Scars of Summer'

Those games /stories assume that the reader inserts themselves into the MC position. aPBLU doesn't. That is why there is the pov selection at start. That is why you have this route that keeps MC out of the loop.

Still can't get behind Laura not being comically evil. She finds cheating sex hot, fine shes become a cheater. Luca and her get more fast and lose with where they cheat, why not understandable, sick but understandable. Tricking Harry into drinking Luca's semen, heh gonna call doubt on that. That's some very specific fetishes shes developed in like what 2 months. Job under Luca, doesn't really feel in anyway sexual, wrong sure, but not hot. Thinking about how hot it would be to tell Harry 20 years later that his children are not his? How does one patiently wait and somehow get the sexual gratification on that one? What would the kids think about their mother? So Laura assumes the role of a evil bitch, monster, thing, that could never have loved Harry, or anyone, at any point, to make him suffer? No, the answer is just ticking the boxes. The whole situation is just hitting the genres fetish check list. I don't think it even counts as making Harry suffer since he doesn't know. That's fine, it's not good, but it kind of works. Nothing like the other route so far.

Same as above. Let me just add that you expect sane behavior from someone that has undergone blackmail, rape, through mental training, all while pretending everything is fine in front of others. No i think she is simply insane in her hate, except rather then stabbing him to death she will cheat.
Regarding kids and future - i don't think Laura really thought about it, she will be taking one day at the time as long as this sex haze lasts.

 

[Terix3]

First of all the set up of MC was completely unbelievable. Nobody in the corporate world dating or not would give someone else access to their office especially passwords and pin codes that kind of thing. So the entire set up of the story falls short. Secondly Laura could have easily avoided this guy. All she had to do was record him talking and then report him. He would be the one in trouble not the MC and not her. Because it would expose him as a saboteur and she could educate MC privately to say the two of them planned it all to get the jerk in trouble. But that's why we call it porn logic. For me there is nothing exciting in this story at all. Yes the models are nice but the concept makes my skin crawl. I checked out the first release and as soon as Laura agreed so easily that was it for me. Also the antagonist, nobody in the corporate world would work with someone like him. I don't care about connections or whatever he is too easy to read. anyway onto something I will enjoy.

The same people that set 1234qwer as their password? Also it is not said how Harry got the code it is said "same ping she uses for pretty much everything". Another thing... there are cameras! Would Harry or anyone for that matter sabotage her they would quickly got found out. Well in this case the cameras are used against her! So the setup is strong as f.
Secondly Luca's papa is mafia boss, i think it is reasonable for one to have mistrust towards police when everyone knows guy is with mafia and walks free.

You didn't come here for NTR story to begin with so be on your way.

 

[Prince of Depression]

"Revenge cuck" aka "pwease add kill the Luca ending" is most pathetic excuse for NTR-addiction.

 

[JoZEr]

20 years is a long time to wait for a reveal. Can you imagine how Luca would feel if Harry died 5 years later completely oblivious? Maybe he will have time to record a video before he dies telling Laura how happy he is to have shared his life with her. Completely clueless but happy... Luca would shit himself.

 

[HentaiWatcher918418128]

Is this the first time Laura has referred to Harry as a cuck?

 

[estrada777]

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[subaru_dono]

I would not spend this much time critiquing a game I didn't like. Any good story has to present a good conflict with a satisfying conclusion. This genre has interesting conflicts between MC, MH, and Antag. MH conflicts with Antag, and to a lesser degree MC, with her relationship with MC on the line.

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You should read the sequel to Mayumi. It has an interesting twist regarding the event which sparked MC'S fetish, though it does clarify that

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Regarding 0.6.0, I definitely have a different understanding regarding people's "dark inner selves" than other people here. This being fiction, it has its own internal logic that doesn't need to be (and often benefits from NOT being) realistic. People have inner demons, dark sides, two wolves, or other euphemisms for internal motivations that aren't expressed, but their presence doesn't foretell some unavoidable outcome. Had Laura been honest with Harry about not just what happened with Luca, but her complex feelings about her parents, she could have overcome the toxic influence of her traumas. That potential for a happy ending makes the outcomes of the "Normal" endings more tragic/thrilling/unenjoyable/hot (YMMV). I see a lot more about Harry that could have saved Laura in "Family" that I didn't in "Future", and I think Laura does too. She still conflicted in "Family", but now she's inverted from how she started. In the "Family" ending, Laura is repressing her "good" side. Unwilling to face her "inner angel".

I think it's interesting. But also less erotically thrilling, imo. I look forward to more endings.

I'm sure we'll get more answers regarding the "I'm Sorry." in other endings, but it feels out of place and lacking in meaning here.

 

[AtotehZ]

HangoverCat
Dunno how hard it is to make, but a way to navigate within the endings list would be nice.
Clicking on a step towards an ending could take you to that step.

If you wanna limit it somewhat you could require that people have read all the lines up till the point they're clicking.

It is already getting to be a lot of re-reading with the different endings.

 

[rhcp725]

AtotehZ you are given multiple save slots. Every time you come to a decision just make a save. Then you can just load up to the exact point where the paths split without needing to reread everything if i don't want to.

 

[AtotehZ]

AtotehZ you are given multiple save slots. Every time you come to a decision just make a save. Then you can just load up to the exact point where the paths split without needing to reread everything if i don't want to.

It is still gonna be a mess. Which path does the options you're choosing from belong to? There are 3 possible already.

 

[subaru_dono]

It is still gonna be a mess. Which path does the options you're choosing from belong to? There are 3 possible already.

Most of the decisions aren't branching points. They're more like a point system, as in "If trust Lauren score is >3, proceed to Route B". I also tend to just auto skip through scenes when aiming for a new path by holding Ctrl.

 

[phestonia]

Maybe I shouldn't judge a book by its cover. Looking at the FMC design, I thought she would actually be an intelligent character, but of course no. It's an NTR story. You need dumb characters to make NTR happen.

The game itself is pretty interesting, I actually like it. Just not a fan of Laura's change, visually. It loses her only charm, somehow. The route should end there IMO. Well, at least it matches her intelligence level.

 

[AtotehZ]

Most of the decisions aren't branching points. They're more like a point system, as in "If trust Lauren score is >3, proceed to Route B". I also tend to just auto skip through scenes when aiming for a new path by holding Ctrl.

Why are you fighting against something that would add convenience to the game?

You're absolutely right in your assessment. And that's exactly what I'm saying will be a mess compared to clicking one button. Waiting 5-10 mins holding CTRL, possibly having to save and go to the main menu cuz you don't remember the path.

Granted, it's not as bad for those of us who play as routes come out, but it'll be a real mess for first time players when the game is done.

While I remember it... I do have an idea how complex this is to make. Either make the buttons lead to something akin to a save OR 'go to' with XYZ stats.