VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus Scenes S2 7-8] [Hangover Cat Purrroduction]

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Animefan_09

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Why would Aya do that? She is not corrupted. She also didn't look like a spiteful person. Obviously everything can put on her disorder but i think it would be ... lame ?
Also would Aya do it then Luca/ Laura wouldn't know about it. Laura didn't listen to Harry explaining the issue but knew exactly what is the problem and how serious it is. They had it already planned beforehand.
Actually we don't know if she is corrupted, or rather if she remains because the little info we got from Harrya nd Luca about their past indicates Luca got her, and the level of trauma tells us it must have been mean, really hardcore, etc.

That said my point is that as she grew up it could be she came to regret her past action but Luca still has a hold on her, remember he is conected to a mafia.
 

Terix3

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Oh, look. It's Bob again.

Hi, Bob.




I wasn't comparing it to Laura, Bob. If you read what I typed you'll see that I was deliberately creating extreme examples for simplicity's sake.

But whatever. I respect your diversity.





... However, I cannot respect your diversity here.

In fact, I'm 85 to 90 percent sure that you're wrong.

Welcome to my TED Talk on the subject.

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But, of course, we'll have to wait and see. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. :D

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go to work. :(
Hi Tom.

So we not just see Laura differently but we have very different views on morality and corruption. :(

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Actually we don't know if she is corrupted, or rather if she remains because the little info we got from Harrya nd Luca about their past indicates Luca got her, and the level of trauma tells us it must have been mean, really hardcore, etc.

That said my point is that as she grew up it could be she came to regret her past action but Luca still has a hold on her, remember he is conected to a mafia.
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ajunghw4n

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Wow, i think this game is one the most successful if not THE most successful ntr game i've ever seen. this game spark and born many debates, discussion, whether is pros or cons against it. Tons of arguments and wall of text appears simultaneously just to prove a points, whether you like the game or not. i like this debate community. once again bravo, bravo HangoverCat
 

Rada96

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I need the save previous to this update, with the choices for the abrupt ending, can anyone share it?
 

taragrey204

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My first post here, but had to comment since I grew a little obsessed with this game.

Despite enjoying how much Laura sinks into depravity, I kinda want an ending for Harry where his mind breaks, ends up killing Luca, and then proceeds to dominate Laura (and Aya too maybe) through fear which she ends up getting off even more thanks to Luca's initial corruption.
 

Terix3

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My first post here, but had to comment since I grew a little obsessed with this game.

Despite enjoying how much Laura sinks into depravity, I kinda want an ending for Harry where his mind breaks, ends up killing Luca, and then proceeds to dominate Laura (and Aya too maybe) through fear which she ends up getting off even more thanks to Luca's initial corruption.
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WhatsFunny

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My first post here, but had to comment since I grew a little obsessed with this game.

Despite enjoying how much Laura sinks into depravity, I kinda want an ending for Harry where his mind breaks, ends up killing Luca, and then proceeds to dominate Laura (and Aya too maybe) through fear which she ends up getting off even more thanks to Luca's initial corruption.
no thats a happy ending impossible
 

LewdLife

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no thats a happy ending impossible
Well there's a happy ending as well as a hero ending planned I think, maybe in happy ending we get to end with Harry and his gf, and MAYBE Harry, his gf and Aya in hero ending or something else



I don't know much, I am not on discord with the author have just seen the planned ending parts, maybe these endings are for those who don't like to be cucked, and the endings presently in development are for cucks.


Both types of customer gets satisfied this way, game is still on production, reason I downloaded and played is cause of arts. Damn, the arts are really nice, apart from the story, not much of a cuck kind of guy . It also helps developer to get feedback and reviews in the development process.

But real fun would be after it gets completed.
 

Alvillo

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Please can someone pass me all the cgs or new scenes of the game? my phone and it doesn't work xd
 

Shatteredstar

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Thanks for the replies. I'm glad it pushed the debate farther.

Do you even like NTR? What do you like in it ? what is your favorite? What you are complaining about is essentially what many look for in NTR - the humiliation of husband, the fall of the girl willing to just about do anything for bigger dick.

As people are expecting those NTR tropes HC simply has far less freedom in writing then he had when building up the story. So it may feel forced because it probably is.


Wouldn't it be more important to ask why Luca hates Harry ? isn't he the real comical evil ?

Laura hates Harry as result of two things interjecting - the training he received from Luca training her to put the blame on what is happening to her on Harry and feeding into her darknes. Second is her childhood trauma - her mother prostitute destroyed her father and presumably their family life. But at this same time it was her father being weak that he could not stand up for himself, for the family and couldn't stop it. That leads her to having certain level of animosity towards weak people, it is her darkness.




It wasn't virus, it was loophole in the code. How would Maya have access to the files? I don't think Luca has access either.
Laura was corrupted then, the scene in Karaoke is still during the app development. It is rather easy to imagine that Luca forced her to put that in there via rule. Also Laura knew what was the problem despite not listening to Harry.





Why would Aya do that? She is not corrupted. She also didn't look like a spiteful person. Obviously everything can put on her disorder but i think it would be ... lame ?
Also would Aya do it then Luca/ Laura wouldn't know about it. Laura didn't listen to Harry explaining the issue but knew exactly what is the problem and how serious it is. They had it already planned beforehand.
I would not spend this much time critiquing a game I didn't like. Any good story has to present a good conflict with a satisfying conclusion. This genre has interesting conflicts between MC, MH, and Antag. MH conflicts with Antag, and to a lesser degree MC, with her relationship with MC on the line.

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... but Harry doesn't get that. Understandably Harry's agency in the story is limited in the game's incomplete form and in this route he is oblivious. Which throws all fault at Laura once the app goes open alpha. Harry couldn't react to what he doesn't know. He doesn't have a chance to be strong or even weak. He never asked for this. There is no conflict at all between Harry and any of the characters. He has no clue that he's drinking Luca's semen with his coffee. He just going to wake up one day 20 years or so later and somehow Laura will be flicking it to telling him his children aren't blood related to him. It's kind of bad.

Laura leaving Harry with two of Luca's kids. Letting him believe they are his, would check the boxes in a far more believable way. She somehow, comically, hates the very air around Harry so much she could never tolerate another second around him much less jump on his penis. We don't have the full game, so my thoughts on the story could be wrong.

For instance why does Luca hate Harry so much? Harry may have done something extremely horrible to Luca or his family, and all this is Harry's just desserts. Laura does not have a reason to do this to Harry. The man works long hours to support her, even through her disgusting physical changes, and her child single-handedly, through this route. Luca, however, may have good reasons, they'd have to be very good reasons to justify this level of pure hatred. I don't even know if it counts as humiliation, there's no reveal to give that reaction to Harry. It's like what happens in 'The Edge of', one the routes has the MC basically becoming mentally ill. To point of nothing happening seems real. Then the check boxes get ticked.


Although most porn games dealing with ntr/corruption fail miserably in portraying that, sexual pleasure can definitely change a person to become unrecognizable. Just like any other addiction like drugs, pills etc sex wielded as a weapon from a really manipulative person, can do just that. Fucking with someone's mind so much that they start blaming others to disassociate from their own guilt and weakness. Especially if it's also linked to related past trauma that a sociopath can exploit.

Of course most western games don't dig that deep because that would result in even more dark and depressing games than the usual ntr. So they just scratch the surface like "big dick gets my pussy going, so now I'm fine humiliating hubby". This one actually tries harder than most by western standards.
I understand addiction is horrific. I personally seen so many terrible tragic events in the people around me, to due drugs and foods.

I can't say I've seen the same, at least not comparable to this story, with sex. Still I don't doubt it, the world is a big place.

HC is very much doing a good job and there is plenty of room to grow, to refine the craft. I don't know if the design doc and scope of the game will allow as rich of a story as seen in the beginning of the story. The first route delivers that just fine though. Not that I don't like the lighter, but somewhat still heavy do to the content, stories of Gyaruzuma Sex, Gal Kano, Gal Wife Anri, and My Beloved Childhood Friend. They are just sexy, eros, no strings attached fantasy. Maybe this route is suppose to be just like this. Comically evil Laura activated eyes meme route. Throwing the story in favor of ticking the boxes. Not great, but not totally bad. I mean for a truly realistic story, Laura would've just called the police, her bosses, and everyone she could to get the story out, but that means no sexy time.

I mean, the first ending on normal route was kinda what you wanted then. She does the NTR reveal. They obviously divorce after that. It's more likely that Harry ends up as a traumatized shut in or something rather than moving on and recovering fully, but that was the route with the kamikaze NTR reveal. I'm still going through the new ending, but it looks like the classic secret NTR.

Normal route was gonna be fucked up either way. It's checking off 2 of the common NTR endings. As for how evil she became, I mean, that's the point. Moral degeneration and NTR go hand in hand.

Based on what people are saying, there will only be like 2 endings that has anything "good" happening for Harry. We're obviously eyeing the good and hero endings here. Still, it's been said that it's not gonna be some super chad happy endings. I'm guessing the Hero ending will see Harry retain Laura's love after her NTR ordeal, and the good ending will be where Harry moves on after losing Laura and ends on a slightly more hopeful note.

I'm guessing one of the abrupt endings will see Harry turn the tables or not fall for Luca's trick with the USB. Like one of those routes in NTR games where the game says, "Congrats, you just avoided the whole story and lived happily ever after."

Aya route is gonna be Aya NTR. It makes no sense for the game to suddenly do a full Harry x Aya route based on what HC has said in the thread. At best, you might get a version in the Aya route where Harry ends up with her after she goes through all the NTR stuff with Luca.

So basically, the ending you want (where Harry moves on and recovers after NTR) is probably coming in the good route. The first ending on normal route was also kinda what you wanted. There is 0 chance they are staying together after that. If you read too many NTR doujins, you will see the writing on the wall for Harry's psyche lol. But it's still technically an open ending where he could move on.
Yeah, it's fair to say that the normal future route is good. Nothing too forced narrative wise. It does what so many games, manga, anime, fail to deliver; a good believable tragic story, with porn of course. You may be right and I just find that the MC knowing nothing makes the story fall flat with no real conclusion. I'm not completely sure on that point. Though moral degeneration/corruption and evil are not completely the same. Laura banging Luca cause it feels good, even if it's wrong, is corruption. Now annihilating Harry's life, short of killing him, for no reason, no gain, is evil. It's far darker than Laura's moral degeneration. What I don't understand is why Laura would be so evil? Luca is part of it, but not to that level. Laura's body is sexy, she could easily setup a train to run on her, if she didn't want to go along with Luca and the terrible acts they did to Harry. Would be a narratively sound way to check the 'MC sees MH in the middle of a gangbang' box. Solidifying the corruption/moral degradation angle.

In Jin's Tachiban story MC gets at least a light reveal. Yamakumo's Atarasii Oneesan MC's truely tragic, foolish actions, and inaction, double impact, causes his relationship with MH to change forever. It's left open for sequel bait, but still stands on it's on with a proper conclusion. Seto Yuuki's Chitose has the MC dive penis first into the degenerancy, only to come up for air and realize his relationship he wanted with MH was already gone.

The choice to not go along with the story and avoid to the whole mess, fleshes it out. What would happen if MC just said no? Just being able to do that increases player agency many times over. Give the player clear idea of what MC is crushing, what he's missing out on, with his choices and actions. MC knows, why not let the player see? Even if it just cuts to an ending, far better with a lovely scene as a reward, or even a middling scene as in Please Bang My Wife 2 Sequel. That's something that manga can't do. Something that 'Scars of Summer' completely missed out on.

What I want is that good writing that I know HC can write. The title screen CG is totally hot, I only wish we could pop Aya's boobs out, though I get the sense that it's tied to progression now. Oh, and where is the CG of Aya drugged and topless? I know that's rich coming from a post on this site, but still. So far if just this route is kind of bad, I'd be fine with it. I'd still call 'Promise Best Left Unkept' a great game, one of the best really in the genre.

You folks got me thinking about so many things I normally don't think about; What I like about the genre and which stories in it I like best, addiction, corruption, evil, and so on. Thanks. I hope the feedback helps as it's all I can give.
 
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