VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus Scenes S2 7-8] [Hangover Cat Purrroduction]

[Shatteredstar]

Well shit i didn't see it coming, i didn't think good writing will turn to be a double edged sword. I dislike blackmail and rape but in netorare i'm able to get past them. there is some crying ,some sadness but generally it doesn't get across. Well here due to the quality writing and how it's woven into sex scenes i feel very bad to see Laura suffer. She knows she is falling but she can't stop it - it's like drowning - a very shit feeling and i got hit with full force of it. I found myself coming with holes in the story or ways for Laura to get out.

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This is not a good sign, if i'm revolting i won't be able to enjoy it. Maybe the jp ntr don't have ridiculous plots because they can't be bothered to get good writer but because when things are too realistic it starts to have adverse effect?

I never thought of good writing spoiling the content. I found myself trying coming up with holes too, but Laura's blackmail plot is believable and a little too 'good.' With that level of writing for Laura, I worry about Aya's part. The lack of choices, even if they lead to a similar ending, is concerning. More player agency is better. The story is so tragic it hardly rates as a porn game to me, more sex scenes would help. Maybe Harry walks in on some Laura masturbation, would fit well with the story. Some Aya perspective solo time. All great opportunities to add to the characters and turn up the heat a little in the beginning.

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It was fun to break down the story. Tough story to get through, it's so tragic, with little sexy sweetness to offset it.

Edit: I realized that my post is a little too negative outside of the spoiler tags. I wouldn't bother posting anything in a game thread, if I didn't think the game is good.

 

[chillybop]

I've seen some people saying that Laura is way too smart to fall for some blackmail and that she should have used her intelligence to deal with the situation in a much better way BUT, when I hear that I remind myself of Myke Tyson's words:

"Everyone has a plan until they get a punch in the mouth".

Have you guys ever heard of people who got scammed in a way like "we kidnapped your daughter, give us money or we're gonna kill her". The person then gives everything they ask without a second thought.

It's easy to say "oh, she should have called the daughter first", but that's not how people react. People get extremely dumb when put in extreme situations, they stop thinking and just react on instict.

Laura is under constant EXTREME stress, she's absolutely terrified and even paranoid

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, I think the way she's been acting is completely realistic and I can't express how much I like her character.

 

[Terix3]

I've seen some people saying that Laura is way too smart to fall for some blackmail and that she should have used her intelligence to deal with the situation in a much better way BUT, when I hear that I remind myself of Myke Tyson's words:

"Everyone has a plan until they get a punch in the mouth".

Have you guys ever heard of people who got scammed in a way like "we kidnapped your daughter, give us money or we're gonna kill her". The person then gives everything they ask without a second thought.

It's easy to say "oh, she should have called the daughter first", but that's not how people react. People get extremely dumb when put in extreme situations, they stop thinking and just react on instict.

Laura is under constant EXTREME stress, she's absolutely terrified and even paranoid

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, I think the way she's been acting is completely realistic and I can't express how much I like her character.

I think you are misunderstanding, it is not that we find Laura actions unrealistic but that we are refusing to accept her fate and trying to come up with ways she could have avoided it.
She is actually quite level headed when it comes to deciding about the blackmail - she realizes that Luca won't leave her alone even after the blackmail becomes invalid, she know she will have to tell Harry about everything. I think it is very possible for her to try to gather evidence against Luca - like recording their talks, sex even if voice only.
Also she is is agreeing to Lucas demands way to easily - using the USB would a) kill the project he is working on b) The court could potentially find evidence linking it to him. Whatever evidence of blackmail Laura would be able to provide would further strengthen her and Harry's side.
Also she would be under so much shock and terror she wouldn't be able to work and sleep.

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[Deleted member 148498]

People get extremely dumb when put in extreme situations, they stop thinking and just react on instict.

That's true, if anything the base premise of the game which is Harry suddenly helping his former bully by breaking into his beloved girlfriend's computer without her knowledge and permission and breaking company's law in the process is much more unbeliveable and forced. But I guess story had to happen in some way and it wasnt THAT farfetched, so I'm okay with it. Everything that happens afterwards is much better anyway.

This is NTR story not an actual lawsuit case, the only thing I expect to be rock solid is my dick when I fap to Laura's cheeks getting clapped by Luca the Nemesis.

 

[WhiteFireDaemon]

I'm really curious about the paths that are going to be available down the road. I figure the obvious two are Laura and Aya, but I wonder what other paths we might get and how many there will be. Also kind of curious what kinks we're going to get to see as well.

 

[MaskTheSaito]

0.2.0?
so, how much story progressed this time?
edging the player just for shekels isnt nice
better release full version rather just one at a time
its a fucking VN not genshin impact

 

[Shatteredstar]

These posts are great discussion. I did go all out on my last post talking about case building for Laura, and Harry, even before her first blackmail rape. I think it's thoughtful feedback. Didn't think much to including some, or everything up to 0.2.0's end. She could murder him in court, with the recordings. The story's reason is as to why she hasn't, at least up to 0.2.0, is good.

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Crazy good writting.

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torzej is right it should be a porn game first and a story second, both is better. Personally I think there should be more scenes earlier. Solos, could easily play into the NTR theme. Though the difference between a memorable game like Lendable Wife - Mayumi and the lesser Lendable Wife - Mayumi 2 is the story.

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I don't know if the Dev is into multiple endings. It looks like it, given that they're is choices. Some earlier choices would improve player agency. Maybe have Harry get close to the truth early forcing Laura to take another wiser approach to dealing with Luca. Harry could have a choice to check the noises thoroughly prompting a possible Aya girlfriend ending. All leading to good sex scenes. Possibly more than one chance to get to those routes with varying levels of corruption in the ending. I don't know the scope of the design doc, so it may be well beyond it to include more routes.

Took me awhile, but I think it's good feedback. Looking forward to the updates.

 

[Zellemate]

Very good start to a NTR game(only finished version 1.5) can't wait to check the next version out.
- Also looking forward to see how big and how deep this game will be/go, I prefer big games compared to smaller ones.
- Would also be amazing to get woman moaning sounds in a title like this, would imo really up the NTR part(especially from the male perspective if he could hear his girlfriend, or think he heard her)

Anyway best of luck with the game, keep up the good work !

 

[luccel]

0.2.0?
so, how much story progressed this time?
edging the player just for shekels isnt nice
better release full version rather just one at a time
its a fucking VN not genshin impact

so just wait for the full release on steam holy balls no ones got a gun to ur head making u pay to support the dev while the games in development

 

[kinglionheart]

0.2.0?
so, how much story progressed this time?
edging the player just for shekels isnt nice
better release full version rather just one at a time
its a fucking VN not genshin impact

There is definitely a problem if one cares about what value your money is getting you each month. The creator has said it will take about an year to finish the game. So at the highest tier a person will pay at least $180 to get the full game as quickly as it is released. I do wish there was an option to purchase only updates for the game for a fixed price and it will be like we are buying an Early Access game but sadly we do not have that option. It seem like the creator will be sharing the game here for free sometime after each release so that is great. I do feel supporting what you like with money is proper but I understanding only doing so if the value matches the price. Hopefully we can all agree we all like the game and no matter how we support the creator, the finished game will be great.

 

[HangoverCat]

Very good start to a NTR game(only finished version 1.5) can't wait to check the next version out.
- Also looking forward to see how big and how deep this game will be/go, I prefer big games compared to smaller ones.
- Would also be amazing to get woman moaning sounds in a title like this, would imo really up the NTR part(especially from the male perspective if he could hear his girlfriend, or think he heard her)

Anyway best of luck with the game, keep up the good work !

I’ve also played your game a few months back and really enjoyed it! Let’s both make 2022 a great year for NTR!

 

[Zellemate]

I’ve also played your game a few months back and really enjoyed it! Let’s both make 2022 a great year for NTR!

Thx ! Glad you enjoyed it, I'm only the community manager but I will pass the info on to the main dev. for my team
- Couldn't agree more, let 2022 be the best NTR year for everyone

 

[luccel]

There is definitely a problem if one cares about what value your money is getting you each month. The creator has said it will take about an year to finish the game. So at the highest tier a person will pay at least $180 to get the full game as quickly as it is released. I do wish there was an option to purchase only updates for the game for a fixed price and it will be like we are buying an Early Access game but sadly we do not have that option. It seem like the creator will be sharing the game here for free sometime after each release so that is great. I do feel supporting what you like with money is proper but I understanding only doing so if the value matches the price. Hopefully we can all agree we all like the game and no matter how we support the creator, the finished game will be great.

so just wait for the full release on steam holy balls people are posting the game for u for free and u people still go on about paying to much money here u guys aren't going to pay even when its full release since ur here and can get it for free so why even type but u could just wait and not pay a single cent tell its out on steam omfg

 

[kinglionheart]

so just wait for the full release on steam holy balls people are posting the game for u for free and u people still go on about paying to much money here u guys aren't going to pay even when its full release since ur here and can get it for free so why even type but u could just wait and not pay a single cent tell its out on steam omfg

Pretty sure some people like to watch how intensely other people react to someone else's problems. You have to find some fun in-between releases.

 

[Princess Groundhog]

I hope Laura and Aya will both join Luca's harem, maybe Sandra too?

 

[SiriusBlack]

I gave the game an hasty look ( i admit i skipped a lot of dialogues :X) to see how you create lewd scenes, and i think you're doing quite a good job here. The game looks very promising, the writing is better than a lot of other games i tried, and you have quite a good artist. I'm surely looking forward to this game progression. Wish you the best of luck!

(The only thing i don't really enjoy is the tilting screen, it actually makes reading more difficult, but it's just my opinion :S)

 

[WhiteFireDaemon]

This game is really gonna get interesting when Luca gets serious. He clearly is just toying with her considering how he's approached the rules so far. I'm hoping he plays long enough to allow Laura to build a bunch of rules and then goes and then gets serious destroying them all.

 

[Princess Groundhog]

I hope one of Luca’s rules will be to always tell Henry the baby is his.

 

[Tim0n]

The drawing is good, the idea is good, but the choice of actions from the player is a problem. As if 100% of the decision in such a genre should be made by the player, not the authors of the game, and there should be elections for almost every important decision of the heroes, and not what there is, and even then there is no difference from the choice ...

 

[kinglionheart]

The drawing is good, the idea is good, but the choice of actions from the player is a problem. As if 100% of the decision in such a genre should be made by the player, not the authors of the game, and there should be elections for almost every important decision of the heroes, and not what there is, and even then there is no difference from the choice ...

The creator has said there will be different endings. So while the decisions the player makes no difference now, once the game is finished, it will probably make a difference. I remember there was a choice greyed out because it was not implemented yet.