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[AverageHalfwit]

actually reading what the game is about and what the developer wrote,
also not expecting a game of this type- japanese netorare, to not have focus on the usual story of most ntr, which the mc loses the girl to the antagonist and expect to get a revenge or some kind of harem protagonist victory in every ending
if you play some Japanese ntr games, you will see this game is turning out to be much more diverse considering it still in development.

Thank you for the considerate reply.
I get the NTR theme - it is pretty obvious the game uses it as the story's main driving mechanism. And I also understand its appeal, even if I don't share it completely. What I don't get is the attitude of "you're not a NTR fan = you have no place here = you couldn't possibly appreciate the game".
I offered previously a comparison with Moby Dick (it was deleted due to a user not using the basic human skill of reading and instead using the more complex human skill of misreading therefore reporting it as kink shaming), which is a novel that leans heavily of describing the whaling industry in the 19th century; I said that enjoying the story in Moby Dick is not conditioned by being a whaling enthusiast and compared it with the story in APBLU not having its appeal conditioned by being a NTR enthusiast. I mean the storytelling is (or was until a point) objectively good, regardless of its main theme.
Yet, "you must be this tall" to be accepted as having a (potentially) valid opinion.

 

[Terix3]

Thank you for the considerate reply.
I get the NTR theme - it is pretty obvious the game uses it as the story's main driving mechanism. And I also understand its appeal, even if I don't share it completely. What I don't get is the attitude of "you're not a NTR fan = you have no place here = you couldn't possibly appreciate the game".
I offered previously a comparison with Moby Dick (it was deleted due to a user not using the basic human skill of reading and instead using the more complex human skill of misreading therefore reporting it as kink shaming), which is a novel that leans heavily of describing the whaling industry in the 19th century; I said that enjoying the story in Moby Dick is not conditioned by being a whaling enthusiast and compared it with the story in APBLU not having its appeal conditioned by being a NTR enthusiast. I mean the storytelling is (or was until a point) objectively good, regardless of its main theme.
Yet, "you must be this tall" to be accepted as having a (potentially) valid opinion.

Your post was not removed because of misreading or misunderstanding but your clear use of offensive language towards people liking NTR.
Your example is wrong. There is difference between something being about something and being aimed at certain audience. I'm confident that Moby Dick is not aimed towards whalers.
The dev has already answered and stated that he is writing for hard NTR fans.
There is difference between having opinion and expecting others to agree with your opinion. If you were being told that the game is aimed towards audience, you agreed to not be part of it and yet you keep coming back and trying to influence the game you are clearly overstepping the boundaries of having opinion.

 

[andybc]

Thank you for the considerate reply.
I get the NTR theme - it is pretty obvious the game uses it as the story's main driving mechanism. And I also understand its appeal, even if I don't share it completely. What I don't get is the attitude of "you're not a NTR fan = you have no place here = you couldn't possibly appreciate the game".
I offered previously a comparison with Moby Dick (it was deleted due to a user not using the basic human skill of reading and instead using the more complex human skill of misreading therefore reporting it as kink shaming), which is a novel that leans heavily of describing the whaling industry in the 19th century; I said that enjoying the story in Moby Dick is not conditioned by being a whaling enthusiast and compared it with the story in APBLU not having its appeal conditioned by being a NTR enthusiast. I mean the storytelling is (or was until a point) objectively good, regardless of its main theme.
Yet, "you must be this tall" to be accepted as having a (potentially) valid opinion.

Quit acting like a victim. You don't like NTR yet you play through the game and say it's NTR trash, to a thread of people who are into it. No one would care if you didn't whine about your self inflicted issues.

And that is a terrible analogy, no one reads Moby Dick because they are whaling enthusiasts, but people the main draw of this game is the NTR.

 

[AverageHalfwit]

Quit acting like a victim. You don't like NTR yet you play through the game and say it's NTR trash, to a thread of people who are into it. No one would care if you didn't whine about your self inflicted issues.
And that is a terrible analogy, no one reads Moby Dick because they are whaling enthusiasts, but people the main draw of this game is the NTR.

I just so happens to view APBLU, firstly, as being a good story, and only secondly a genre-specific story. Calling it just a NTR story, seeing only that specific draw, seems reductive of its qualities (good writing, character development, engaging twists etc).

 

[rustyspoon]

To stomach this game better, it helped me to view it as a “girl enjoys cheating and bullying her boyfriend” game more than a strict “ntr” game. The author’s previous project was similar in this regard.

 

[BangB420]

To stomach this game better, it helped me to view it as a “girl enjoys cheating and bullying her boyfriend” game more than a strict “ntr” game. The author’s previous project was similar in this regard.

damn, kinda sounds like ntr doesn't it?

 

[rangabang]

To stomach this game better, it helped me to view it as a “girl enjoys cheating and bullying her boyfriend” game more than a strict “ntr” game. The author’s previous project was similar in this regard.

Or, you know,

Dont identify with the cuck

 

[kusobaba]

nobody has the 2nd bonus scene and is gracious enough to share it with the proletariats?

 

[rustyspoon]

damn, kinda sounds like ntr doesn't it?

To some. To me there is a difference. There is usually some form of empathy to the guy getting cheated on. Not necessarily from the characters but from the author. Without it, it diverges too much into “torture porn” category for me. Even if the torture is in this case mostly psychological.

It is not unlike BDSM where there is a pain but also love and care projected towards the submissive.

I think this game is somewhat lacking in this regard, even if other aspects are often excellent.

 

[korrdulka]

Hello everyone here is 2nd bonus scene. My first time using mega so don't know if the link works



Bonus 2 PC :

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[desmosome]

I just so happens to view APBLU, firstly, as being a good story, and only secondly a genre-specific story. Calling it just a NTR story, seeing only that specific draw, seems reductive of its qualities (good writing, character development, engaging twists etc).

You got it backwards. It's firstly an NTR story (the classic japanese hard NTR type at that), and secondly, a good story within that framework. I don't think it's a huge leap to say that this game will only appeal to people who actually like NTR.

What if I went into a hyper femdom focused game that has amazing character development, writing, and engaging twists and started lamenting that there wasn't a route where you turn the tables and dominate the bitches? Am I justified in feeling like all that good writing is wasted potential because it doesn't have a route that appeals to me? No. That's called entitlement. I should be be asking myself why the fuck I am playing that game when I don't like femdom.

 

[BangB420]

Hello everyone here is 2nd bonus scene. My first time using mega so don't know if the link works



Bonus 2 PC : Mega

Thank you king!

 

[0281arca]

Hello everyone here is 2nd bonus scene. My first time using mega so don't know if the link works



Bonus 2 PC : Mega

Thank you

 

[0281arca]

Hello everyone here is 2nd bonus scene. My first time using mega so don't know if the link works



Bonus 2 PC : Mega

Btw, Did you have the one? i mean 0.7.6

 

[WareWaShida]

Hello everyone here is 2nd bonus scene. My first time using mega so don't know if the link works



Bonus 2 PC : Mega

Thanks!

 

[AverageHalfwit]

You got it backwards. It's firstly an NTR story (the classic japanese hard NTR type at that), and secondly, a good story within that framework. I don't think it's a huge leap to say that this game will only appeal to people who actually like NTR.
What if I went into a hyper femdom focused game that has amazing character development, writing, and engaging twists and started lamenting that there wasn't a route where you turn the tables and dominate the bitches? Am I justified in feeling like all that good writing is wasted potential because it doesn't have a route that appeals to me? No. That's called entitlement. I should be be asking myself why the fuck I am playing that game when I don't like femdom.

I agree with your example - it would be entitlement to want a defining aspect of a good story to be removed just because one doesn't digest that specific aspect; even more so when that specific aspect is what makes the story work.
About your first point - take it the other way around: is APBLU good because it has the amazing character development, writing etc, or is it good because it's specifically NTR ? This ties with the previous point - NTR is quite essential to make the story work, but is it what actually makes the game/story good, or it's just a framework for storytelling? Take for example the Top Gear shows; they're car shows and heavily targeted at car enthusiasts; yet they're entertaining for most viewers, even those not interested in cars. In my opinion, the quality of a creative manifestation precedes its specificity.
Cheers

 

[lkjhgfdfghjkl]

take it the other way around: is APBLU good because it has the amazing character development, writing etc, or is it good because it's specifically NTR ?

Separating an umbrella term from the components that make it work is a bit reductive

 

[desmosome]

Take for example the Top Gear shows; they're car shows and heavily targeted at car enthusiasts; yet they're entertaining for most viewers, even those not interested in cars. In my opinion, the quality of a creative manifestation precedes its specificity.
Cheers

But if they hated cars, they wouldn't be watching Top Gear. They would at least have to be willing to watch a show mostly about cars and be able to be entertained.

The post that started this discussion is analogous to some retard who hates cars with a passion tuning into Top Gear weekly and raging that the episode is once again about cars.

 

[kusobaba]

Hello everyone here is 2nd bonus scene. My first time using mega so don't know if the link works



Bonus 2 PC : Mega

OH MY GOD THATS FUCKING HOT

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[Cricco]

Nah bruh, this Luca guy is uber gay. Fucking some woman and his foremost thought is if she made the cum sandwich for her husband like he told her to. Rule 63 him already, at least in a bonus scene.