RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.8.5b] [Chyos]

[zARRR]

Only the $10 tier gets to vote on and suggest bonus scenes on the discord. I've only really ran into one or two hardcore NTR fans on the discord, most people are kind of in the middle or vanilla. Then again these are just the people who talk on the discord as opposed to the silent voters. Of the eight options currently up for prevote (for bonus scenes) only two of them have an NTR component. The rest were all vanilla scenes.

I can't deny that the ones that do have an ntr component tend to be more popular but I think that's cuz it appeals to more people (since you get both a vanilla and an ntr scenes out of it).

Two?
I have counted more, but yeah the majority of them seems to be silent users who just pop up there to put a vote on their favorite fetish… I mean who can blame them?
That place ain’t really peaceful.

Tia is the best bitch ever. All you NTR haters are missing the best part of the game.

In your subjective opinion, but still that has nothing to do with what we are discussing about, you are missing the point.

 

[Ottoeight]

An issue with bonus scenes that I can see happening...is that people will run out of ideas lol. last cycle there weren't many ideas being suggested (there's only a few patreons that suggest things on the discord...). The option that gets the least number of votes in the prevote ends up scrapped and either modified or swapped out for a new option. I'd be fine with chyos just adding stuff he had to cut from other releases (like the new ayita/hiba option he put in because of lack of other ideas).

They run out of ideas because they're a bunch of narrow-minded limp dweebs. After the last Verena updates the most predictable and hottest bonus scenes would be: MC+Verena+Roderic threesome and MC+Verena+Claire+Roderic foursome.

And I'm still waiting for:

- Arianna becoming the Queen of Horny Bitches ( = MC's bride);
- Mira finding out about MC and Frisha.

I won't be happy till then.

 

[Dodododo105]

as someone who can enjoy both ntr and harem as long as it's written okay enough (by porn game standards), i honestly feel the game is pretty balanced tbh. like, it's influenced by the fact i haven't been following this game nearly as long as you guys, but the game itself has a pretty equal divide between ntr and harem choices with a bit of favoring harem. the only reason it seems to you guys like it's unbalanced to ntr is because you've been playing long enough that the only new content you're playing is as it's coming out so you're just reacting to whatever is in the most recent update rather than looking at the game as a whole.

on bonus scenes specifically, i don't really see the issue? like, "vanilla is priority, ntr is secondary" and bonuses scenes being more ntr lately (not that i personally consider battle-loss rape to be ntr like is some of the new scenes) isn't at all conflicting or a lie. for as much as it is a porno game with sex in every storyline, it's also a story rpg, and the vanilla paths do still get blatantly favored in every story update (which are also the big ones). like, ntr has more to find in bonus scenes precisely because they're filling in blank spots that weren't in story updates that favored non-ntr content first and foremost. for that matter, them being "bonus" by its nature means they're not beholden to any priorities at all because...you know, they're bonus not main scenes or plotlines.

there's even more than a few girls in this game whose plotlines you literally can't continue if you just stick to the ntr storyline. you have to actually opt into getting with the girl to continue the story with some. the rumah plot is pretty much the only area so far you can go full ntr storyline and have it be a dedicated route. that is in no way ntr suddenly overpowering vanilla stuff.

 

[Ottoeight]

Yes I did the options are there but I just can't pick them

Ok. So you have 3 of roast something with vegetables and the twinkles are showing on the table. What happens when you click on the twinkle?

You ALWAYS must have 3 cooked dishes in your inventory. Prepare, and serve. Then prepare.

 

[Evangelion-01]

as someone who can enjoy both ntr and harem as long as it's written okay enough (by porn game standards), i honestly feel the game is pretty balanced tbh. like, it's influenced by the fact i haven't been following this game nearly as long as you guys, but the game itself has a pretty equal divide between ntr and harem choices with a bit of favoring harem. the only reason it seems to you guys like it's unbalanced to ntr is because you've been playing long enough that the only new content you're playing is as it's coming out so you're just reacting to whatever is in the most recent update rather than looking at the game as a whole.

That's not entirely wrong... but neither correct.
The Balance between NTR and Vanilla used to be much higher in favor of the Vanilla routes... I'd even say 80% Vanilla and 20% NTR.
The fact that even you as a new Player note a much higher blaance of both genre is what we discuss here.

on bonus scenes specifically, i don't really see the issue? like, "vanilla is priority, ntr is secondary" and bonuses scenes being more ntr lately (not that i personally consider battle-loss rape to be ntr like is some of the new scenes) isn't at all conflicting or a lie. for as much as it is a porno game with sex in every storyline, it's also a story rpg, and the vanilla paths do still get blatantly favored in every story update (which are also the big ones). like, ntr has more to find in bonus scenes precisely because they're filling in blank spots that weren't in story updates that favored non-ntr content first and foremost. for that matter, them being "bonus" by its nature means they're not beholden to any priorities at all because...you know, they're bonus not main scenes or plotlines.

Yet that part is what makes people wonder... Chyos is useing quiet abit of his monthly time to develope the Bonusscenes, these are for high tier Patreons but the balance they earlier sought seems to be broken bit by bit.
My greatest concern is that the non NTR Supporters will eventually reduce their pledges as there is no reason to vote on content that is not in their fetish any longer... it's not that bad just now, but the trend seems to be worrying from my perspective.

 

[Ottoeight]

I agree, she said she was not so innocent and that she could take care of herself around Thomas.
Then she puts on that stupid bimbo uniform, so suddenly she comes across as stupid.
The game is coming to choices, Porn or Story...Never going to keep everyone happy.. (And it's a porn site). But Chyos has actually a story to tell and some of us like the story. Our problem is (And it's borne out by the "Save Game Pleeeeassse") most people into porn don't want a story
Personally...If Tia gets the attitude, fuck me more or I'll fuck someone else I'd be saying ......Go aheah...I've more than enough of Rumah

#enoughwithRumah

 

[yazda]

#enoughwithRumah

Rumah For Ever

 

[Brazilian Engrish]

Take me for example. I dont mind a game with ntr. Or a pure ntr game. But playing just this kind of games becomes quit boring. I like variety. One day a romance vanilla game. The other a corruption incest game. The next a rpg with female protagonist with management. And them a pure ntr game. I can play and enjoy they all.

This is the biggest problem with Ntr fans. They just want more and moar ntr. Can only be turned on by it. Can't enjoy others genres. Its like the fetish dominated the poor guys minds.

 

[yazda]

Take me for example. I dont mind a game with ntr. Or a pure ntr game. But playing just this kind of games becomes quit boring. I like variety. One day a romance vanilla game. The other a corruption incest game. The next a rpg with female protagonist with management. And them a pure ntr game. I can play and enjoy they all.

This is the biggest problem with Ntr fans. They just want more and moar ntr. Can only be turned on by it. Can't enjoy others genres. Its like the fetish dominated the poor guys minds.

Pureplay NTR and Pureplay Vanilla both allow access to roughly 20 percent of the total game experience in ASWS. There are literally hundreds of options if you want to mix and match play styles.

 

[Evangelion-01]

For me, I don't enjoy pure NTR games but the game where there is an optional NTR route that won't change the game drastically is fun. What I find boring is a poor representation of real life in the pure vanilla games, people don't even want another guy around female characters, just complete some mission, increase the love points and gradually unlock sex scenes. At least in Herem mixed NTR games has this option that if you are being an asshole to your girl, your girl might fuck someone else, which is pretty much the reality. I always support NTR games because it has so much negativity that every developer has to clarify that you have the choice to turn it off and still it will be optional. I support NTR fan's simply because there are way too many NTR haters, which kind of makes this community toxic towards a certain fetish because that's the giant tag everyone looks at and ignores the efforts that the dev has invested in the game.

While I can see your point I wouldn't go as far as to support the NTR fetish fanbase.
Sure I like a challenge in my game and being an asshole should have consequences but there are far to many games out there that already cater to the NTR fetish, no need to turn any game into a NTR game or at the very least have be implemented as a mayor part of the game.
I have seen a number of games trying to gather more support by includeing more and more fetishes eventually loosing their primary goal out of sight and creating inconsistence storyupdates.
It's recommendable that Chyos managed to increase the NTR content without failing into this hole, but it's still a bit dissapointing to be seen given the original Plan he shared for this game.
It kind of feels like that Content Updates are takeing more time and being shorter duo to the need to create several routes for each Update, to the point that Game Mechanic Updates seem to add more to the Gameplay than Content Updates

 

[Wolf Larsen]

I despise NTR. I also despise guro, gore, scat, and a few other things.

It's my taste. If you don't like it, please hit the ignore button, bc I ain't changing it.

I don't mind that ASWS has something for the NTR fans. I became a patron knowing that this type of content exists, after all.

But if I start to get only a handjob, too many cuckish vibes, while the NTR route gets heaven and earth, I'm leaving. Because it wouldn't be worth my investment anymore.

It's that simple. Simple opinions like that trigger some people, however (cough cough that discord server)

But please, don't try to force your kinks on me. ASWS was made for vanilla fans as well, whether people like it or not.

 

[Yotetar]

Just a reminder:


Trolls must be ignored.

 

[InTheWoods]

It's because your computer is most likely a potato. I tried running this game on my old ass notebook that I forgot it existed, and yes, it's way slower when I am playing on my main PC. What helped was disabling the "synch monitor FPS" and enabling the "performance mode".

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Potatoes are not known for their high frame rates. Slow text occurs because the developer decided to deliberately delay the text being displayed - that's why clicking twice causes the delay to be skipped, rendering all the text at once.

 

[Evangelion-01]

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Potatoes are not known for their high frame rates. Slow text occurs because the developer decided to deliberately delay the text being displayed - that's why clicking twice causes the delay to be skipped, rendering all the text at once.

Let's quote you here "LOL, no." RPGM has a Standard text advance speed, it's not like RenPy where you have different Textspeeds as default, from which you can choose.
I am not sure wether or not a Script exists that would allow such a thing in RPGM aswell, but any custom script holds a chance to break already existing mechanics.
Also I kinda doubt you can read faster than the text advances... and still understand what the text just said.

 

[InTheWoods]

RPGM has a Standard text advance speed, it's not like RenPy where you have different Textspeeds as default, from which you can choose.

Annoying-by-default is a mark against RPGM as a platform choice but there are

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for improving this behavior.

Also I kinda doubt you can read faster than the text advances... and still understand what the text just said.

I guess we all have our strong suits, right? If it weren't lagging behind my normal reading speed, it wouldn't be quite as bothersome.

 

[Yotetar]

What I meant when I said I support NTR fan is because they get hated, I just simply support any guy who has legal fetish and a game should not have a constraint when it's telling a story, of course, a choice, a tag for extreme fetishes is fine. I am okay when Wolf Larsen or any dude says I hate some fetishes and don't want any fetishes to be forced upon them, but what I dislike is being a bully about it. Ultimately it's just a fetish just like any other fetish, just ignore it, skip it, or chose some other option. I agree with you about the updates, I would really like to see how the actual story gets progressed, especially Athia Vs Isha and the Queen's storyline. Also Yotetar I am not a troll, god knows how many accounts on this site I have deleted because of post-nut clarity.

I didnt mention you, did I? But if you feel alluded that explains a lot, don't you think?

 

[BBC King]

Surprise, surprise. I come to check on updates to this game and its a NTR vs no-NTR discussion ensuing.

Never change F95, never change.

 

[Vegasyy]

I beg you guys, does someone know where i can find this banger of soundtrack from the main menu?

 

[zARRR]

I beg you guys, does someone know where i can find this banger of soundtrack from the main menu?

As Chyos once said in an old (but really old) post that I have found, that he put it in the credits of the game and can be found on YouTube.

 

[Vegasyy]

As Chyos once said in an old (but really old) post that I have found, that he put it in the credits of the game and can be found on YouTube.

Thanks for the info but i already went through every youtube channel, but found nothing...