RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.8.5b] [Chyos]

[Wolf Larsen]

FPS=130, yet I have to wait as the text crawls slowly across the screen at each page. Deliberately slowing down the text is annoying!

It's because your computer is most likely a potato. I tried running this game on my old ass notebook that I forgot it existed, and yes, it's way slower when I am playing on my main PC. What helped was disabling the "synch monitor FPS" and enabling the "performance mode".

 

[JM24]

Guys, after I finished the Kurlic Trip Preparation quest, whenever I want to share Kate with Rick, she always gets upset and her affection decreases. Any idea why this is the case? I already corrupt her to max, but she has an affair with Thomas. Anything to do with that?

 

[Yotetar]

Well, I did my research so here we go:

About Frisha:

To be fair, Chyos made two things here:
-NTR scene withGrant, we know how this shit ends.
-Remake of the virginity scene with Frisha.
He didnt added a vanilla scene that's true, but he remade something.People will judge.

In my opinion like I said before: this was poorly made as a script, is a : "You not pay, we fuck" and throw all the relationshipyou build with frisha. To the toilet. It was told to Chyos, for what I know he gonna make the dialogue more clear. I dont know what he is gonna do about that. but the option of Frisha getting her own money, working with Verena to the toilet, so flush it with honor.

About Pia:

Honestly I didnt get a forced NTR, she didnt sleep with him. She is my girlfriend, the corruption is not high, and I didnt steal thomas money.If you steal his money iot is said thomas will fuck her.
I dont like her being "bitchy", dancing(it is... not good.)Her dress is not my like, or her hair. I liked more the ponytail with glasses, but that's just a personal preference.

I dont know if being more bitchy because of her situation it is what you dont like. I dont like it too. But Chyos said that the path on this is kicking out Thomas(when you advance of Arianna quest), so I dont know, maybe it feels incomplete because of that.

About Tia:
This is what it is said:

Tia (+158): If the MC neglects her in his hut too often she will get more demanding for sex (new scene). If on Dasan's route and the MC still neglects her she will seek pleasure from him. (There will also be an optional path where Dasan charms Tia before the MC claims her)

I expect Tia acting like an orc. Being demanding, it is repetitive(because we saw it everywhere you sleep with her), and of course will be with high corruption. I dont like it, but it stills be Vanilla with NTR so what I am gonna say? that's on personal choices.

I personally think that the bonus scenes are being burned, you know what they say: "you can stretch the gum, but it has their limits".
And because he is spending less time on Main branches, and more on bonus branches, with adding more and more options, the quality will fall. It is not complex science, its maths.
He should spend more time on main? Yes and it was said.
Like it was said that the pity votes are a patch not a solution, and it was flushed in the toilet.The consequence of this: A pathetic attemp with a picture of Bianca asking for votes, that even with pity votes, will lose against Arianna.It is embarrasing, a joke, and a huge mistake of the dev.

Will Chyos do whatever he wants even if you explain it with logic, reasons and proof?Always did.

And one more thing: When developers gets more money that they need, they get comfy, when they get comfy they make mistakes, because they are not under the pressure of: "If I fuck it, I will get nothing to eat." Sadly patreon is not like legal contracts around the world, where if you fuck it, you get fired.So unless a lot of patrons are on the side of being professional and not being a dick-licker, nothing will be done.

I am hungry.

 

[vidyasagar]

Latest saves for ntr route and non ntr please because my save files are crashed..

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Well, I did my research so here we go:

About Frisha:

To be fair, Chyos made two things here:
-NTR scene withGrant, we know how this shit ends.
-Remake of the virginity scene with Frisha.
He didnt added a vanilla scene that's true, but he remade something.People will judge.

The fact that it's a remake, not a new scene, it's the most "underdelivering" aspect. I think I saw people o Discord asking "what happens when I paid her debt?" and Chyos was like, "if you are already her boyfriend, yeh, you didn't actually need to do the quest". I wouldn't call it bad, just a weak update. As I said, I did enjoy the rework.

I dont know if being more bitchy because of her situation it is what you dont like. I dont like it too. But Chyos said that the path on this is kicking out Thomas(when you advance of Arianna quest), so I dont know, maybe it feels incomplete because of that.

So maybe sticking her in this situation was a bit of a bad idea. And as I said, I didn't like the direction he went with the character ("tavern wench"). I tolerate Kate because that's how she was introduced to us, and then there is this perspective of character development, that things will change for her. But Ophilia was changed for the worst and that's how things will stay for quite some time. Thomas, NTR Bastard Nº 3 being in the middle of everything just makes things sour. There are three main girls working for him now. It is what it is. Heaven for NTR fans. A joke in very ill taste for the vanilla fans.

About Tia:
This is what it is said:

Tia (+158): If the MC neglects her in his hut too often she will get more demanding for sex (new scene). If on Dasan's route and the MC still neglects her she will seek pleasure from him. (There will also be an optional path where Dasan charms Tia before the MC claims her)

I expect Tia acting like an orc. Being demanding, it is repetitive(because we saw it everywhere you sleep with her), and of course will be with high corruption. I dont like it, but it stills be Vanilla with NTR so what I am gonna say? that's on personal choices.

The parenthesis in the description is what started a debate in this thread some time ago (my fault, maybe?). It does feel like this path will have way more focus for the NTR fans, and Tia is a disgusting bitch that can easily trigger the NTR route. Chyos was excited to do this scene because of this new NTR aspect, he didn't hide that.

I don't care that the NTR fans get their fun. It's when it starts to get into my fun it is that bothers me. I will be judging with a sniper rifle this update.

Like it was said that the pity votes are a patch not a solution, and it was flushed in the toilet.The consequence of this: A pathetic attemp with a picture of Bianca asking for votes, that even with pity votes, will lose against Arianna.It is embarrasing, a joke, and a huge mistake of the dev.

Yep.

 

[RevGen10]

Latest saves for ntr route and non ntr please because my save files are crashed..

no. either take the save linked on the first page or leave it.

 

[RevGen10]

An issue with bonus scenes that I can see happening...is that people will run out of ideas lol. last cycle there weren't many ideas being suggested (there's only a few patreons that suggest things on the discord...). The option that gets the least number of votes in the prevote ends up scrapped and either modified or swapped out for a new option. I'd be fine with chyos just adding stuff he had to cut from other releases (like the new ayita/hiba option he put in because of lack of other ideas).

So maybe sticking her in this situation was a bit of a bad idea. And as I said, I didn't like the direction he went with the character ("tavern wench"). I tolerate Kate because that's how she was introduced to us, and then there is this perspective of character development, that things will change for her. But Ophilia was changed for the worst and that's how things will stay for quite some time. Thomas, NTR Bastard Nº 3 being in the middle of everything just makes things sour. There are three main girls working for him now. It is what it is. Heaven for NTR fans. A joke in very ill taste for the vanilla fans.

I'd assume that sooner we can actually go to kirlic and/or investigate the cult, the sooner we can get rid of thomas...unless arianna's quest gets a lot more popularity, the earliest it will win jan-march 2023.

I just wanna get rid of thomas...and lucius...and dave...and giron...and joseph...and edward?...
we can already kill dasan in multiple ways and we can kick out henry. I just want to get rid of the rest of these assholes. that's not too much to ask.

 

[yazda]

The fact that it's a remake, not a new scene, it's the most "underdelivering" aspect. I think I saw people o Discord asking "what happens when I paid her debt?" and Chyos was like, "if you are already her boyfriend, yeh, you didn't actually need to do the quest". I wouldn't call it bad, just a weak update. As I said, I did enjoy the rework.




So maybe sticking her in this situation was a bit of a bad idea. And as I said, I didn't like the direction he went with the character ("tavern wench"). I tolerate Kate because that's how she was introduced to us, and then there is this perspective of character development, that things will change for her. But Ophilia was changed for the worst and that's how things will stay for quite some time. Thomas, NTR Bastard Nº 3 being in the middle of everything just makes things sour. There are three main girls working for him now. It is what it is. Heaven for NTR fans. A joke in very ill taste for the vanilla fans.



The parenthesis in the description is what started a debate in this thread some time ago (my fault, maybe?). It does feel like this path will have way more focus for the NTR fans, and Tia is a disgusting bitch that can easily trigger the NTR route. Chyos was excited to do this scene because of this new NTR aspect, he didn't hide that.

I don't care that the NTR fans get their fun. It's when it starts to get into my fun it is that bothers me. I will be judging with a sniper rifle this update.



Yep.

Tia is the best bitch ever. All you NTR haters are missing the best part of the game.

 

[JM24]

Why can't I serve meals in Katherine's even I have the dishes cooked already?

 

[Nellyg]

There's nothing much else to be said.

I liked the content that I got from bonus scenes so far. There are not supposed to be big ass updates, but small ones.

The thing is, a lot of the suggestions selected seem to center around the idea of the appeal of a new NTR possibility, and then "here is a vanilla scene for you".

Let's talk about the next bonus scene suggestion, for example.

"If you reject Tia, you will get a new scene with her being more dominant".

Does that seem super appealing to you?

Or maybe it's the fact that there will be a new way for Dasan to cuck the MC?

I noticed that some of the bonus scenes (but not all of them, such as the threesomes) follow this pattern.

I did not complain here, however, because Chyos puts investment in the new animations for the vanilla scene. So I always get something.

Do I like some bonus scenes more than others? Yep. While I did not hate the Frisha one, I agree that was the weakest. Because it was mostly a rework or variation of something that already existed. No new events like threesomes or even Nyra.


What I truly dislike was Ophilia, as I said many times before.

But it's more because of the writing. Chyos decided to make the geeky girl look like a slut and pushed this concept down our throats. The NTR complaint here is Thomas's participation in it and that there's nothing we can do about it for now. It's not fun, it's annoying. It might piss you off if you are not on the NTR side of the force.

It's just my personal opinion on one update. Fortunately, there are many other girls besides that... urgh... Pia.

I guess those are all my thoughts on the matter.

I agree, she said she was not so innocent and that she could take care of herself around Thomas.
Then she puts on that stupid bimbo uniform, so suddenly she comes across as stupid.
The game is coming to choices, Porn or Story...Never going to keep everyone happy.. (And it's a porn site). But Chyos has actually a story to tell and some of us like the story. Our problem is (And it's borne out by the "Save Game Pleeeeassse") most people into porn don't want a story
Personally...If Tia gets the attitude, fuck me more or I'll fuck someone else I'd be saying ......Go aheah...I've more than enough of Rumah

 

[Nellyg]

Why can't I serve meals in Katherine's even I have the dishes cooked already?

You have to wait until a certain time..5, 6 or 7 pm ( I can't remember exactly) just watch for a twinkling star on the table.
And did you cook the proper meal "Roast something with vegetables"

 

[JM24]

You have to wait until a certain time..5, 6 or 7 pm ( I can't remember exactly) just watch for a twinkling star on the table.
And did you cook the proper meal "Roast something with vegetables"

Yes I did the options are there but I just can't pick them

 

[Nellyg]

Tia is the best bitch ever. All you NTR haters are missing the best part of the game.

You're way out of line there, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and NTR was supposed to be by choice in this game.
Maybe "ugly bitch" was a little over the top, but a lot agree.
His argument was about being dragged into ntr scenarios when the game that he played, (For quite a while now) that was supposed to have optional ntr suddenly takes away that choice and starts drifting

 

[Nellyg]

Yes I did the options are there but I just can't pick them

Ok. So you have 3 of roast something with vegetables and the twinkles are showing on the table. What happens when you click on the twinkle?

 

[yazda]

You're way out of line there, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and NTR was supposed to be by choice in this game.
Maybe "ugly bitch" was a little over the top, but a lot agree.
His argument was about being dragged into ntr scenarios when the game that he played, (For quite a while now) that was supposed to have optional ntr suddenly takes away that choice and starts drifting

You are just a vocal minority. Poll numbers do not lie.

 

[Nellyg]

You are just a vocal minority. Poll numbers do not lie.

True but I've seen pole numbers so many times cause ..."Abandoned"
Anyway that was not what I was replying to you about...The man was entitled to his opinion.
You want to see your girlfriend screwing someone else is fine by me...He dosen't

 

[Gudil]

You're way out of line there, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and NTR was supposed to be by choice in this game.
Maybe "ugly bitch" was a little over the top, but a lot agree.
His argument was about being dragged into ntr scenarios when the game that he played, (For quite a while now) that was supposed to have optional ntr suddenly takes away that choice and starts drifting

I guess he can disable ntr, is that not true? I'm pretty sure at least half of the players of the game are here because of it. It is honestly one of the best games here and in terms of ntr is top 3. The proportion in patreon must be similar too. And as other guys have said, there is always vanilla content, he could just wait a few more updates. But I agree that the game should move on to the other city, I actually like the story and I want to see it progress, it would be a good game even without all the porn in it.

 

[Evangelion-01]

You are just a vocal minority. Poll numbers do not lie.

So are you... the poll numbers for the main Stories tell a completly different tale.
The Discord Server got dominated with the NTR fans (most of them can't be even supporters based on the final votes), which means since Chyos makes prevotes there they prefilter possible content.
The Patrons have to vote on the ideas that came out of the Discord Swamp which makes them less and less apealing.
From the current Options there is none that triggers my interest in slightest.
Even the Emily, Mira and Frisha Vote is rather boring as it conclusively only result into a stay over scene for Mira and the others will leave.

I guess he can disable ntr, is that not true? I'm pretty sure at least half of the players of the game are here because of it. It is honestly one of the best games here and in terms of ntr is top 3. The proportion in patreon must be similar too. And as other guys have said, there is always vanilla content, he could just wait a few more updates. But I agree that the game should move on to the other city, I actually like the story and I want to see it progress, it would be a good game even without all the porn in it.

I'd rather say that there are 20-25% of the people here are pure NTR haters or or pure NTR Fans... most of us were following the path "as long as it's avoidable and a "Bonus" for the fans of that genre I am fine".
What riles up teh people is the trend of NTR no longer being a "Bonus route or scene" but a mayor integral of the game

 

[Wolf Larsen]

I guess he can disable ntr, is that not true? I'm pretty sure at least half of the players of the game are here because of it. It is honestly one of the best games here and in terms of ntr is top 3. The proportion in patreon must be similar too. And as other guys have said, there is always vanilla content, he could just wait a few more updates. But I agree that the game should move on to the other city, I actually like the story and I want to see it progress, it would be a good game even without all the porn in it.

Chyos, the developer, said here that the vanilla scene takes priority and every single update has a vanilla scene.

If the NTR is going to take the priority instead, he should be clear about that, because his vanilla patrons and players (like me) can leave.

But what the developer has been saying is that this will never happen and it's not happening. We can have a vanilla update without NTR, but the NTR will never have anything exclusive.

And we were debating this promise, that's it.

You are just a vocal minority. Poll numbers do not lie.

It has nothing to do if the majority of patrons enjoy NTR or not. Don't know why that was brought up. But if Chyos will bend over to the NTR patrons' wishes, then so he's pretty much a liar, but nothing so crazy has happened for me to accuse him of that, only updates that I or others didn't like.

 

[RevGen10]

So are you... the poll numbers for the main Stories tell a completly different tale.
The Discord Server got dominated with the NTR fans (most of them can't be even supporters based on the final votes), which means since Chyos makes prevotes there they prefilter possible content.
The Patrons have to vote on the ideas that came out of the Discord Swamp which makes them less and less apealing.
From the current Options there is none that triggers my interest in slightest.
Even the Emily, Mira and Frisha Vote is rather boring as it conclusively only result into a stay over scene for Mira and the others will leave.

I'd rather say that there are 20-25% of the people here are pure NTR haters or or pure NTR Fans... most of us were following the path "as long as it's avoidable and a "Bonus" for the fans of that genre I am fine".
What riles up teh people is the trend of NTR no longer being a "Bonus route or scene" but a mayor integral of the game

Only the $10 tier gets to vote on and suggest bonus scenes on the discord. I've only really ran into one or two hardcore NTR fans on the discord, most people are kind of in the middle or vanilla. Then again these are just the people who talk on the discord as opposed to the silent voters. Of the eight options currently up for prevote (for bonus scenes) only two of them have an NTR component. The rest were all vanilla scenes.

I can't deny that the ones that do have an ntr component tend to be more popular but I think that's cuz it appeals to more people (since you get both a vanilla and an ntr scenes out of it).