RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.8.5b] [Chyos]

[Ottoeight]

PS: A hint about that in a quest whould be very good!
There has to be some kind of Renovate Emilys House Quest which leads to the Bonus "Renovate your House"

You just NEED to PAY ATTENTION at the dialogues. Just DO IT.

This game needs:

- More female Orcs/Monster Girls
- More Thick Transformations
- More Evil/Good branching paths
- More Dungeons and Combat oriented sections with good loot

- NOPE

- NOPE

- NOPE

- there is plenty.

plus, more girls getting knocked up and having kids.
I mean there's 20 beds in the orphanage to fill, and other reasons.

- HELL NO.

 

[Erectosaurus]

I'm grateful that Chyos takes feedback from the people in his discord instead of the ones here. Imagine throwing a tantrum because someone simply wants more of what's already in the game/planned for future content.

Anyway Tia has some new models. I personally like the old one better, new one looks too "clean" if that makes sense.

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[Yotetar]

Well then, lets begin.

What is patriotism?

Well, in the history of mankind, patriotism had a lot of definitions, even on some parts of our history made diferences between "old patriotism" or patriotism of the modern Europe and thepatriotism we live or we know today.But in essence or most historians made a summary where defined patriotism as : "Feeling of a country".

This phrase is vague and can be interpreted by a lot of ways, but that's the point of patriotism, patriotism being a feeling means it is irrational, and because its irrational we cannot put an end of it. But we can put definitions of the people who hug the irrational feeling and embrace it to the last consequences.Those who embrace it to the extreme is affiliated to "nationalism" and this people are called by a few names, depending of the POV. Some people call them: extremists,nationalists,"true patriots", or even "heroes".

But we cannot put a "real" difference between patriotism and nationalism.Some people defines patriotism as a possitive connotation, while nationalism are entangled with negative connotations. But in the end they are still the same: "feeling of a country".

The origin of patriotism comes from "patriots", it is recorded that in the 1500's patriots derives from Greek "patriotes" meaning "fellow countrymen". The root of this world means: fatherland, paternal, patriarchy (Pater in latin that means father).
The origin of nationalism was recorded between 1700-1800 and is based on nation, in latin is more like: birth,tribe.
Even if we can make some differences if we search on their origins, we can see that in the end get to the same conclussion:"Feeling of a country".

Some historians says that patriotism was the father and nationalism was his direct son because of their similarity.But some others says they are the same coin.But as always because its irrational and cannot have an "exact" definition is up to the people of what patriotism and nationalism are for themselves.

Of course we could make books about patriotism as there a lot of books, talking about patriotism or nationalism, their definition, their history and even their "sons". But we cannot make a long speech about it, so lets make some basics and connect the dots to the game.

For the "people in the streets" patriotism is more related to the love of a country in a negative way like nationalism. If we see thenews today or politics we can see that the patriotism is often related to extremists or people who is not defined in a very good matter: The famous Donald Trump, the nazism in Ukraine,Russia,Erdogan in Turkey, North Korea, China, Italia and the "five stars movement",Orban in Hungary, Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, etc..

But what is " feeling of a country" or what is a country, there a lot of definitions but lets make this simple:

-Can be the nation.
-Can be the people.
-Can be the land.
-Can be the flag.
-Can be their kings, or representatives.

Some people defines these as symbols too. Because they represent the country: their nation, their people, their land, their flag and their representatives for the whole world.

I could define each of what I said, but I think people can understand what they mean, at least on basics definitions.

How this connects to the game?

Well we have "Kings" fighting for the control of their country, each one having a land, people, and probably flags, where the common people suffers the outcome, and leads to our protagonist a feeling where he wants to protect the people around him from any harm.

In fact this could be defined as patriotism, because in some ways or another he loves the people that form a comunity in a small village called Arenfield.

On a lot of moments and especially in the last update we can see when he talks to the queen and the general, that he wants to protect these people(And sometimes fuck them).


As I said patriotism can be entangled with people, because some people defines the feeling of a country as the feeling for the people. A lot of book in the history of the WW, we can see the "interviews" of the soldiers of famous question "What are you fighting for?" and somesoldiers answered: "I fight for the people" or "I fight for my people/family".

I can add a bit more: on some countries the military training has the values of patriotism as "love for the people" "protect the people" "protect the land".
Subjectively I had military training and I can confirm this values(between others more") and the representation of the flag to symbolize this values.

And that's it what I have to say for now.
Hope you like it.
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Havea good day.

 

[mrttao]

You just NEED to PAY ATTENTION at the dialogues. Just DO IT.

are you expecting me to READ! Good sir, I say, humbagh!

Joking aside, there is a long enough time period between updates that people can easily forget what happened. for the character it was yesterday. for the player it was months ago.

 

[zARRR]

Well then, lets begin.

What is patriotism?

Well, in the history of mankind, patriotism had a lot of definitions, even on some parts of our history made diferences between "old patriotism" or patriotism of the modern Europe and thepatriotism we live or we know today.But in essence or most historians made a summary where defined patriotism as : "Feeling of a country".

This phrase is vague and can be interpreted by a lot of ways, but that's the point of patriotism, patriotism being a feeling means it is irrational, and because its irrational we cannot put an end of it. But we can put definitions of the people who hug the irrational feeling and embrace it to the last consequences.Those who embrace it to the extreme is affiliated to "nationalism" and this people are called by a few names, depending of the POV. Some people call them: extremists,nationalists,"true patriots", or even "heroes".

But we cannot put a "real" difference between patriotism and nationalism.Some people defines patriotism as a possitive connotation, while nationalism are entangled with negative connotations. But in the end they are still the same: "feeling of a country".

The origin of patriotism comes from "patriots", it is recorded that in the 1500's patriots derives from Greek "patriotes" meaning "fellow countrymen". The root of this world means: fatherland, paternal, patriarchy (Pater in latin that means father).
The origin of nationalism was recorded between 1700-1800 and is based on nation, in latin is more like: birth,tribe.
Even if we can make some differences if we search on their origins, we can see that in the end get to the same conclussion:"Feeling of a country".

Some historians says that patriotism was the father and nationalism was his direct son because of their similarity.But some others says they are the same coin.But as always because its irrational and cannot have an "exact" definition is up to the people of what patriotism and nationalism are for themselves.

Of course we could make books about patriotism as there a lot of books, talking about patriotism or nationalism, their definition, their history and even their "sons". But we cannot make a long speech about it, so lets make some basics and connect the dots to the game.

For the "people in the streets" patriotism is more related to the love of a country in a negative way like nationalism. If we see thenews today or politics we can see that the patriotism is often related to extremists or people who is not defined in a very good matter: The famous Donald Trump, the nazism in Ukraine,Russia,Erdogan in Turkey, North Korea, China, Italia and the "five stars movement",Orban in Hungary, Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, etc..

But what is " feeling of a country" or what is a country, there a lot of definitions but lets make this simple:

-Can be the nation.
-Can be the people.
-Can be the land.
-Can be the flag.
-Can be their kings, or representatives.

Some people defines these as symbols too. Because they represent the country: their nation, their people, their land, their flag and their representatives for the whole world.

I could define each of what I said, but I think people can understand what they mean, at least on basics definitions.

How this connects to the game?

Well we have "Kings" fighting for the control of their country, each one having a land, people, and probably flags, where the common people suffers the outcome, and leads to our protagonist a feeling where he wants to protect the people around him from any harm.

In fact this could be defined as patriotism, because in some ways or another he loves the people that form a comunity in a small village called Arenfield.

On a lot of moments and especially in the last update we can see when he talks to the queen and the general, that he wants to protect these people(And sometimes fuck them).


As I said patriotism can be entangled with people, because some people defines the feeling of a country as the feeling for the people. A lot of book in the history of the WW, we can see the "interviews" of the soldiers of famous question "What are you fighting for?" and somesoldiers answered: "I fight for the people" or "I fight for my people/family".

I can add a bit more: on some countries the military training has the values of patriotism as "love for the people" "protect the people" "protect the land".
Subjectively I had military training and I can confirm this values(between others more") and the representation of the flag to symbolize this values.

And that's it what I have to say for now.
Hope you like it.
I was listening this while I made the post:

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Havea good day.

It’s one of those days uh Yotetar?
Let me open a beer…

I'm grateful that Chyos takes feedback from the people in his discord instead of the ones here. Imagine throwing a tantrum because someone simply wants more of what's already in the game/planned for future content.

Anyway Tia has some new models. I personally like the old one better, new one looks too "clean" if that makes sense.

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Well I mean it’s expected, those are the people who actually pay you and discord has some good ideas but also… yeah.
Not to mention that Chyos also reads suggestion and stuff here, when I wasn’t still a Patron, he took one of my suggestion on alchemy and stuff.

are you expecting me to READ! Good sir, I say, humbagh!

Joking aside, there is a long enough time period between updates that people can easily forget what happened. for the character it was yesterday. for the player it was months ago.

I mean some characters are easier to follow than others, but I agree sometimes I also have to restart VNs because I forgot the plot, Chyos updates monthly and I always catch up here on there.
So it’s easier for other games

 

[HentaiKami]

Well then, lets begin.

What is patriotism?

Well, in the history of mankind, patriotism had a lot of definitions, even on some parts of our history made diferences between "old patriotism" or patriotism of the modern Europe and thepatriotism we live or we know today.But in essence or most historians made a summary where defined patriotism as : "Feeling of a country".

This phrase is vague and can be interpreted by a lot of ways, but that's the point of patriotism, patriotism being a feeling means it is irrational, and because its irrational we cannot put an end of it. But we can put definitions of the people who hug the irrational feeling and embrace it to the last consequences.Those who embrace it to the extreme is affiliated to "nationalism" and this people are called by a few names, depending of the POV. Some people call them: extremists,nationalists,"true patriots", or even "heroes".

But we cannot put a "real" difference between patriotism and nationalism.Some people defines patriotism as a possitive connotation, while nationalism are entangled with negative connotations. But in the end they are still the same: "feeling of a country".

The origin of patriotism comes from "patriots", it is recorded that in the 1500's patriots derives from Greek "patriotes" meaning "fellow countrymen". The root of this world means: fatherland, paternal, patriarchy (Pater in latin that means father).
The origin of nationalism was recorded between 1700-1800 and is based on nation, in latin is more like: birth,tribe.
Even if we can make some differences if we search on their origins, we can see that in the end get to the same conclussion:"Feeling of a country".

Some historians says that patriotism was the father and nationalism was his direct son because of their similarity.But some others says they are the same coin.But as always because its irrational and cannot have an "exact" definition is up to the people of what patriotism and nationalism are for themselves.

Of course we could make books about patriotism as there a lot of books, talking about patriotism or nationalism, their definition, their history and even their "sons". But we cannot make a long speech about it, so lets make some basics and connect the dots to the game.

For the "people in the streets" patriotism is more related to the love of a country in a negative way like nationalism. If we see thenews today or politics we can see that the patriotism is often related to extremists or people who is not defined in a very good matter: The famous Donald Trump, the nazism in Ukraine,Russia,Erdogan in Turkey, North Korea, China, Italia and the "five stars movement",Orban in Hungary, Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, etc..

But what is " feeling of a country" or what is a country, there a lot of definitions but lets make this simple:

-Can be the nation.
-Can be the people.
-Can be the land.
-Can be the flag.
-Can be their kings, or representatives.

Some people defines these as symbols too. Because they represent the country: their nation, their people, their land, their flag and their representatives for the whole world.

I could define each of what I said, but I think people can understand what they mean, at least on basics definitions.

How this connects to the game?

Well we have "Kings" fighting for the control of their country, each one having a land, people, and probably flags, where the common people suffers the outcome, and leads to our protagonist a feeling where he wants to protect the people around him from any harm.

In fact this could be defined as patriotism, because in some ways or another he loves the people that form a comunity in a small village called Arenfield.

On a lot of moments and especially in the last update we can see when he talks to the queen and the general, that he wants to protect these people(And sometimes fuck them).


As I said patriotism can be entangled with people, because some people defines the feeling of a country as the feeling for the people. A lot of book in the history of the WW, we can see the "interviews" of the soldiers of famous question "What are you fighting for?" and somesoldiers answered: "I fight for the people" or "I fight for my people/family".

I can add a bit more: on some countries the military training has the values of patriotism as "love for the people" "protect the people" "protect the land".
Subjectively I had military training and I can confirm this values(between others more") and the representation of the flag to symbolize this values.

And that's it what I have to say for now.
Hope you like it.
I was listening this while I made the post:

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Havea good day.

Personally i subscribe this distinction between patriotism and nationalism:

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I would say that generally nationalism also includes putting your ethnicity and culture on a pedestal, where as patriotism is usually more open to multi-cultural/multi-ethnical love for country. Also patriotism wants to improve nation to everyone that lives there, where as nationalists generally only want to improve their groups situation. Nationalism as an ideology became prominent during mid to late 19th century and peaked during WW2. The idea of ethnic state is culmination of nationalism, which is one of the biggest causes for 1st and 2nd world wars.

But your post is interesting and thoughtful, which is pretty rare for porn game forum

 

[Evangelion-01]

Well then, lets begin.

What is patriotism?

Well, in the history of mankind, patriotism had a lot of definitions, even on some parts of our history made diferences between "old patriotism" or patriotism of the modern Europe and thepatriotism we live or we know today.But in essence or most historians made a summary where defined patriotism as : "Feeling of a country".

This phrase is vague and can be interpreted by a lot of ways, but that's the point of patriotism, patriotism being a feeling means it is irrational, and because its irrational we cannot put an end of it. But we can put definitions of the people who hug the irrational feeling and embrace it to the last consequences.Those who embrace it to the extreme is affiliated to "nationalism" and this people are called by a few names, depending of the POV. Some people call them: extremists,nationalists,"true patriots", or even "heroes".

But we cannot put a "real" difference between patriotism and nationalism.Some people defines patriotism as a possitive connotation, while nationalism are entangled with negative connotations. But in the end they are still the same: "feeling of a country".

The origin of patriotism comes from "patriots", it is recorded that in the 1500's patriots derives from Greek "patriotes" meaning "fellow countrymen". The root of this world means: fatherland, paternal, patriarchy (Pater in latin that means father).
The origin of nationalism was recorded between 1700-1800 and is based on nation, in latin is more like: birth,tribe.
Even if we can make some differences if we search on their origins, we can see that in the end get to the same conclussion:"Feeling of a country".

Some historians says that patriotism was the father and nationalism was his direct son because of their similarity.But some others says they are the same coin.But as always because its irrational and cannot have an "exact" definition is up to the people of what patriotism and nationalism are for themselves.

Of course we could make books about patriotism as there a lot of books, talking about patriotism or nationalism, their definition, their history and even their "sons". But we cannot make a long speech about it, so lets make some basics and connect the dots to the game.

For the "people in the streets" patriotism is more related to the love of a country in a negative way like nationalism. If we see thenews today or politics we can see that the patriotism is often related to extremists or people who is not defined in a very good matter: The famous Donald Trump, the nazism in Ukraine,Russia,Erdogan in Turkey, North Korea, China, Italia and the "five stars movement",Orban in Hungary, Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, etc..

But what is " feeling of a country" or what is a country, there a lot of definitions but lets make this simple:

-Can be the nation.
-Can be the people.
-Can be the land.
-Can be the flag.
-Can be their kings, or representatives.

Some people defines these as symbols too. Because they represent the country: their nation, their people, their land, their flag and their representatives for the whole world.

I could define each of what I said, but I think people can understand what they mean, at least on basics definitions.

How this connects to the game?

Well we have "Kings" fighting for the control of their country, each one having a land, people, and probably flags, where the common people suffers the outcome, and leads to our protagonist a feeling where he wants to protect the people around him from any harm.

In fact this could be defined as patriotism, because in some ways or another he loves the people that form a comunity in a small village called Arenfield.

On a lot of moments and especially in the last update we can see when he talks to the queen and the general, that he wants to protect these people(And sometimes fuck them).


As I said patriotism can be entangled with people, because some people defines the feeling of a country as the feeling for the people. A lot of book in the history of the WW, we can see the "interviews" of the soldiers of famous question "What are you fighting for?" and somesoldiers answered: "I fight for the people" or "I fight for my people/family".

I can add a bit more: on some countries the military training has the values of patriotism as "love for the people" "protect the people" "protect the land".
Subjectively I had military training and I can confirm this values(between others more") and the representation of the flag to symbolize this values.

And that's it what I have to say for now.
Hope you like it.
I was listening this while I made the post:

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Havea good day.

Something you didn't relate to which is closer to the game though... in times of strive and seperations the winner defines who was a patriot and whom was a fool.
Take the french revolution, Napoleon, the north american civil war and even germany after WW II.

Back to game if MC would raise in revolution and win he'd be a patriot as he would reunite the Vale and stop the degenerate Kings from tearing it apart... while they woulld be the mad men who tried to destroy everything and the ones killed in the battle the victims of this blind killing.

Personally i subscribe this distinction between patriotism and nationalism:

You must be registered to see the links

I would say that generally nationalism also includes putting your ethnicity and culture on a pedestal, where as patriotism is usually more open to multi-cultural/multi-ethnical love for country. Also patriotism wants to improve nation to everyone that lives there, where as nationalists generally only want to improve their groups situation. Nationalism as an ideology became prominent during mid to late 19th century and peaked during WW2. The idea of ethnic state is culmination of nationalism, which is one of the biggest causes for 1st and 2nd world wars.

But your post is interesting and thoughtful, which is pretty rare for porn game forum

Actually one of the mayor driving factors of nationalism is considering themselfes superrior to everyone else and wanting to spread this supperiority in order to make everyones lives better... yeah it's as crazy as it sounds, but that triggered both WWs

 

[Yotetar]

I didint say everything, because I want to people say the rest. I didnt talk about the manipulation of patriotism on the politic side, or war side. I didnt talk about the sons: like fascism, chauvinism, jingoism. I didnt talk about the evolution of the original patriotism and the new patriotism, or nationalism civic nationalism, cultural nationalism.Damn I didint talk about : "How patriotism kills" by the jews.


But I would say the peak of the manipulation in patriotism comes in the WW2, where a madman used it to kill millions of innocent people. Of course I am talking about Joseph Stalim.

What? You though I would say Adolf Hitler? You are joking right? He was a madman, but he clearly said what he would do with the etnic races. He didnt manipulate the germans, he just exhalted their need of being relevance to the world, after the WW1, and people elected him after all.

The Mc probably gonna make a revolution by the ways of how things are going, What I wonder if where he is gonna make the revolution and how. But it is clear, he gonna make a move after 5 years of development or more. Adter all he is a patriot, patriots born when the situations are dire.

 

[HentaiKami]

Something you didn't relate to which is closer to the game though... in times of strive and seperations the winner defines who was a patriot and whom was a fool.
Take the french revolution, Napoleon, the north american civil war and even germany after WW II.

Back to game if MC would raise in revolution and win he'd be a patriot as he would reunite the Vale and stop the degenerate Kings from tearing it apart... while they woulld be the mad men who tried to destroy everything and the ones killed in the battle the victims of this blind killing.


Actually one of the mayor driving factors of nationalism is considering themselfes superrior to everyone else and wanting to spread this supperiority in order to make everyones lives better... yeah it's as crazy as it sounds, but that triggered both WWs

That's what i meant with putting it on pedestal, it's something that is superior and deserves better place than others.

 

[Evangelion-01]

I didint say everything, because I want to people say the rest. I didnt talk about the manipulation of patriotism on the politic side, or war side. I didnt talk about the sons: like fascism, chauvinism, jingoism. I didnt talk about the evolution of the original patriotism and the new patriotism, or nationalism civic nationalism, cultural nationalism.Damn I didint talk about : "How patriotism kills" by the jews.


But I would say the peak of the manipulation in patriotism comes in the WW2, where a madman used it to kill millions of innocent people. Of course I am talking about Joseph Stalim.

What? You though I would say Adolf Hitler? You are joking right? He was a madman, but he clearly said what he would do with the etnic races. He didnt manipulate the germans, he just exhalted their need of being relevance to the world, after the WW1, and people elected him after all.

The Mc probably gonna make a revolution by the ways of how things are going, What I wonder if where he is gonna make the revolution and how. But it is clear, he gonna make a move after 5 years of development or more. Adter all he is a patriot, patriots born when the situations are dire.

Personally I think the Crusade was the Epitome of manipulation and Patriotism... and vice Versa the Chihad (or what ever it's really spelled) to counter the crusade (definately not the modern term... as that is blatant lies and ignorance)

 

[Ottoeight]

All right, guys. This is nice and all (yeah, sure), but...

it is definitely off-topic.

 

[Yotetar]

All right, guys. This is nice and all (yeah, sure), but...

it is definitely off-topic.

party pooper.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

I'm grateful that Chyos takes feedback from the people in his discord instead of the ones here. Imagine throwing a tantrum because someone simply wants more of what's already in the game/planned for future content.

Anyway Tia has some new models. I personally like the old one better, new one looks too "clean" if that makes sense.

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It's the lighting, isn't it?

I do think the old one conveys Tia's personality better. The new one makes her look kinda haughty.

 

[Archaon11111]

I'm grateful that Chyos takes feedback from the people in his discord instead of the ones here. Imagine throwing a tantrum because someone simply wants more of what's already in the game/planned for future content.

Anyway Tia has some new models. I personally like the old one better, new one looks too "clean" if that makes sense.

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Old definitely looks much better

 

[zARRR]

It's the lighting, isn't it?

I do think the old one conveys Tia's personality better. The new one makes her look kinda haughty.

I mean she is naughty, you need to get high corruption to make her feel comfortable with the “Rumah dress”…

But yes I prefer the old one, is More Tia-ish

 

[Evangelion-01]

It's the lighting, isn't it?

I do think the old one conveys Tia's personality better. The new one makes her look kinda haughty.

To me the old one kinda seem to have a spotlight over her head (which kinda fits into the view of some people as her being the true star of the game).
There isn't much difference otherwise, the skin texture and muscles look better on the new model so overall I consider it a fair improvement... also her skin resembles that of Raaisha and hiba far more now not makeing her the Albino Lama in the herd

 

[Matiur13]

In my last playthrough:

• MC sided with Van/Hekima
• MC let Hekima talk with Anya at 8 pm.

The walkthrough say something about 5C for Anya and let 5 days pass.

Anya only asked MC for permition with more than 15C (in my case 20C). I don't know how many days I let them talk just standing next to them not interacting, then a bunch of days asking Anya everyday, and she just say they are talking and she won't cheat on the MC.

Conclusion: she asked for permition at 20C.

Beside, I didn't know Hekima would go Emo peeping at MC and Anya having sex.


I wondered why there was no soldier trying to get friendly with Penny. Then I concluded that John would probably kick their asses if they tried anything funny (he supposedly helped her grind weath and chat with her).

 

[gdog]

- HELL NO.

Why not? Kate gets knocked up and gives birth, why do you object to the other girls you're having sex with doing the same?
I'm actually curious why you're so emphatic that nobody else gets pregnant?
(pretty sure it's a planned feature anyway)

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

I mean she is naughty, you need to get high corruption to make her feel comfortable with the “Rumah dress”…

But yes I prefer the old one, is More Tia-ish

Haughty =/= Naughty

haughty

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ˈhä-

haughtier; haughtiest
: blatantly and disdainfully proud : having or showing an attitude of superiority and contempt for people or things perceived to be inferior
haughty aristocrats
haughty young beauty … never deigned to notice us Herman Melville

 

[zARRR]

Haughty =/= Naughty

haughty

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haugh·ty

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ˈhä-

haughtier; haughtiest
: blatantly and disdainfully proud : having or showing an attitude of superiority and contempt for people or things perceived to be inferior
haughty aristocrats
haughty young beauty … never deigned to notice us Herman Melville

Ok