storm1051787

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Just because of lot games use the exact same method doesn't mean it's right. Just like many people can be wrong about something until someone points out the right way to them. It was a major reason I stopped playing the actual video games ages back due to how crap and samey they all were. So I don't understand why you're surprised by this.
I mean your entitled your own opinion and all but like half of the village storylines start because your poor and homeless so people offer you work. Then the storyline progresses because you're doing work. You also really don't need your house tbh since so many li just let you sleep with them in their bed whenever you want. I only upgraded unlocked it when I had to to continue mira's storyline, and only upgraded it when I had to for athia's storyline
 

storm1051787

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not there
I just checked. It's there.

1. After you have renovated Emily's house visit yours. The MC will now think about renovating his own house. 2. You will need some materials for that (see quest description) after you have gathered those and have rested you can start the work on your house in the morning. 3. After the ground is renovated you have to also build the 1st floor in the same way 4. Talk to Roderic, he will offer you furniture for the house. 5. Most important is the bathtub. To build it you must craft an oven at the smithy and you then need 5 iron bars (these are available if you already ventured into the mine, see John) 6. For the kitchen you need a cauldron which also can be crafted at the forge in the smithy 7. Talk to Lucius about candles, from now on you are able to gather animal fat from killed animals, you can sell it for a good price to Lucius, after selling him 10 he will offer you candles in his shop (you have to wait 1 day) if you bought 20 of them enter your house to light everything up. 8. If you interacted with the cat outside your door and build up affection on her this will open up the option to build a cat-door for it. Talk to Roderic



Then after that you talk to Roderic again and he'll add some religious items to athia's room.



6. You now have to renovate your house up to the 1st floor (see house renovation 7. Now visit Roderic and ask him to renovate a room for Athia. After that is done talk to her to show her the new room


https://attachments.f95zone.to/2024/11/4215302_A_Struggle_With_Sin_0.5.9.1_Walkthrough.pdf
 

Budman 1959

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Okay Budman, I will talk you through this.

So you have Athia asking you to renovate your house? Not her room? Where is she located? Is she still by the tavern by day and church by night? Or is she in your house's storage room?

Where are you at with renovating Emily's house into a Orphanage? Is the second floor built including just one bed?

Have you made any renovations to your house?

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A few times I have made the mistake of having placed an order with Roderic for twenty beds for Emily, before having asked him to complete my house. If he is still making beds for Emily he won't be available to make renovations to the MC's house until his order is complete.

I have never seen Athia ask for me to renovate my house. But I have also never aligned with her, I always align with Isha (Gwen). I also have never watched her get mistreated outside the church until I have my house fully built. I don't get prompted to renovate her room until after she has moved into my storage.

If she is in your storage, then the only thing keeping Roderic from furnishing her room would be if he is still working on orders.

If she is at the Tavern / Church and you haven't made any renovations to your house, you need to go to Emily's guide to see how to get the Orphanage built, after it is built you can then renovate your house.
thanks she is in my storage room
 

Apartment817

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thanks she is in my storage room
There should be an option to ask Roderic to make a room for Athia. The option isn't there until Athia has moved in.

Just a heads up about a thing that has tripped me up a few times. If you don't trigger her to make you a dinner, you can give her a good meal each day which will raise her affection, you only need to get it to ten. That way you can do it on your own time and not commit to eating at your place at 4 to 6 pm.

But in order to get her to cook you have to make sure the fire under your pot is lit, and then when you talk to her and she asks for food, you tell her its her job to cook.

Also, make sure you have taken a bath so you know its up and running, then you need to tell her that she can take a bath.

Where I have forgot how it works a few times is that I have taken a bath, then followed her quest up to where it says to take a bath with her, but she never gets in the bath, it's because I hadn't gone to her room and told her she can use it.

If she is going upstairs after dinner instead of the bath, its because she hasn't been told yet.

Also, also, a lot of her late stage quest items require waiting a full 24 hours before its available without it saying to wait a day. Like after a bath it will say "confront her in her room" you can go to her room, and talk to her, but the actual confronting won't be available until the following night.
 
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Budman 1959

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There should be an option to ask Roderic to make a room for Athia. The option isn't there until Athia has moved in.

Just a heads up about a thing that has tripped me up a few times. If you don't trigger her to make you a dinner, you can give her a good meal each day which will raise her affection, you only need to get it to ten. That way you can do it on your own time and not commit to eating at your place at 4 to 6 pm.

But in order to get her to cook you have to make sure the fire under your pot is lit, and then when you talk to her and she asks for food, you tell her its her job to cook.

Also, make sure you have taken a bath so you know its up and running, then you need to tell her that she can take a bath.

Where I have forgot how it works a few times is that I have taken a bath, then followed her quest up to where it says to take a bath with her, but she never gets in the bath, it's because I hadn't gone to her room and told her she can use it.

If she is going upstairs after dinner instead of the bath, its because she hasn't been told yet.

Also, also, a lot of her late stage quest items require waiting a full 24 hours before its available without it saying to wait a day. Like after a bath it will say "confront her in her room" you can go to her room, and talk to her, but the actual confronting won't be available until the following night.
could only get her to 8
 

VirtualElf84

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Have you increased all of the farm, chicken house, mill and continue giving her vegetables?
I'm pretty sure I was making a profit by the second month in game
Yep, and it stopped saying it immediately after I posted my comment xD dat timing! Still though, like I said it was a personal issue-like an OCD issue-I just didn't like seeing. It felt like a slap in the face for just trying but it worked itself out so it's all good now! Devs have gone outta their way to bring the nightmare of the realism behind paying taxes into this game with her content, and I gotta say I am A LOT more impressed than frustrated with it so good for them!
 

Apartment817

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no option for the carpenter

By carpenter you are talking about Roderick and not his son Rick (your friend) right?

What options do you have with Roderick, what shows up when you saw, "commission something", "for my House" what is there? What does he say after you say "furniture for my house"?

Do you have the second floor of your house built? The kitchen, bathroom, your bed? Did you get the candles from Lucien?
 
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VirtualElf84

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By carpenter you are talking about Roderick and not his son Rick (your friend) right?

What options do you have with Roderick, what shows up when you saw, "commission something", "for my House" what is there? What does he say after you say "furniture for my house"?

Do you have the second floor of your house built? The kitchen, bathroom, your bed? Did you get the candles from Lucien?
I think they're referring to how we still can't complete renovating our swanky new mansion. I kinda get it but also kinda don't, mostly because Rick keeps flaking midway through each time but I DID steal his crush from him, so I can't give the dude too much crap for it! Still though, pride really does make a man wanna see his hard work to completion.
 
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Apartment817

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I think they're referring to how we still can't complete renovating our swanky new mansion. I kinda get it but also kinda don't, mostly because Rick keeps flaking midway through each time but I DID steal his crush from him, so I can't give the dude too much crap for it! Still though, pride really does make a man wanna see his hard work to completion.

Scroll back a few pages, Budman has Athia in his storage room and he can't get her room furnished. He is struggling with that.

It is ironic that it is happening at the same time that Spankymcspanky is airing his grievance with not being able to renovate the MC's house before completing the orphange.

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I see Rick's always flaking as a bit of Chyos stretching the suspension of disbelief a bit. Chyos wants the player to get extra struggled with having to complete it alone, hungry and passed out by its completion, and not having any warning that its going to happen. Chyos accomplishes this by having Rick flake, it is a touch unrealistic.
 
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packor

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No I wasn't. I was asking that things make sense.

And role playing has nothing to do with a structure system. This is something devs and gamers have gotten very wrong for a very long time.
events happen as time progresses. In RPG's, the time progresses as you "trigger" them by activating the preceeding event; makes sense to me. It's a narrative, and the STORY is progressing as it should. You want to be able to pick and choose things instead of them being part of a story/other restricting factor. That is a SANDBOX.
 
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Chii

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Yep, and it stopped saying it immediately after I posted my comment xD dat timing! Still though, like I said it was a personal issue-like an OCD issue-I just didn't like seeing. It felt like a slap in the face for just trying but it worked itself out so it's all good now! Devs have gone outta their way to bring the nightmare of the realism behind paying taxes into this game with her content, and I gotta say I am A LOT more impressed than frustrated with it so good for them!
Penny's update is definitively one of the highlights in this game's recent history
I don't remember any other that felt more satisfying to play/go through
 
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mspman

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Hello All

I thought I saw at least a posted picture of Helena and Yasmine together with the implication the MC did a threeway with them.

Is this possible, and if so how do you do it? In my game Yasmine is A11, C11 and Helena is A16, C21.
when trying to join them in the living room it says you can't they are busy.

curious minds want to know
 

Pocisk204

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been wondering is there a way to stop Mira from joining church?

and are there character(s) that you can turn into ''slave'' and make money off it? pimp them out or something like that
 

lancekro

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been wondering is there a way to stop Mira from joining church?

and are there character(s) that you can turn into ''slave'' and make money off it? pimp them out or something like that
No you can't stop Mira from joining the church. It's an important part of the main story, it links up with the demon/gods story arc and the war.

As for pimping out girls to make money, I don't thinks so but I'm not sure because I play with ntr off.
 
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VirtualElf84

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Scroll back a few pages, Budman has Athia in his storage room and he can't get her room furnished. He is struggling with that.

It is ironic that it is happening at the same time that Spankymcspanky is airing his grievance with not being able to renovate the MC's house before completing the orphange.

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I see Rick's always flaking as a bit of Chyos stretching the suspension of disbelief a bit. Chyos wants the player to get extra struggled with having to complete it alone, hungry and passed out by its completion, and not having any warning that its going to happen. Chyos accomplishes this by having Rick flake, it is a touch unrealistic.
xD I only barely feel bad about taking Kate from him, he's the type of friend I'd get royally pissed at way too frequently if it was real life. Also thanks for the clarification, I completely missed the context of what was being said there so my bad!
 

VirtualElf84

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Penny's update is definitively one of the highlights in this game's recent history
I don't remember any other that felt more satisfying to play/go through
^_^ It's like giving a gigantic "f*ck you" to the government and STILL coming out on top, you just can't NOT love that feeling!
 

Chii

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Hello All

I thought I saw at least a posted picture of Helena and Yasmine together with the implication the MC did a threeway with them.

Is this possible, and if so how do you do it? In my game Yasmine is A11, C11 and Helena is A16, C21.
when trying to join them in the living room it says you can't they are busy.
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-struggle-with-sin-v0-5-9-5-chyos.32136/post-15613702
In total (Patreon & Subscribestar summed up) Helena got the majority with 216 votes. Sabrina took 2nd place with 151 votes. So Helena won and I have already started working on the scene for her and Yasmine.
 
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