All that, and not a word about John's motivation... You are speaking for the developer when you say it is going to happen, yet have literally no evidence of that, nor can you even imagine a scenario were it would.
Literally gave 4 examples and you still refuse to read. You literally just want to argue with people on this thread lmfao. Cya.
Literally you did not, you didn't speak to John's motivation at all.
Nothing to do with John's motivation.
Would you fuck your daughter if she presented herself to you? Melissa could present herself to John, but why in the world would he fuck her? Why would he contradict everything he has ever said in the game?
Nothing to do with John's motivation. I did just post about it in the Discord, I have messaged Chyos directly several times before and got quick responses. But whether or not Melissa and John will fuck is too ridiculous of an idea for me to bug him directly, but I will let you know if something comes out of the Discord regarding it.
Pater does speak with piety, most pious men are masked, so that isn't a surprise. John doesn't speak with piety, he has genuine concern for his daughter and her future. You have not spoke at all about how that concern for her would disappear.
You are spouting about how there will be Melissa and John scenes, with no evidence. Still, nothing concerning John's motivations.
I don't have a bone to pick with you, but I do have an issue with how you handle disagreement.
Tiny bit of housekeeping. That was why he left the switch on, as a stressor not to fail. Not to have the choice in future scenes, but as an external force of pressure not to screw up. My argument was that the netorase was forced because the choice to see those scenes was left on. After actually seeing the scene, he deleted the convo, so I can't quote. But that literally was his argument for why the switch was on, he wanted the switch to serve as punishment for screwing up, and he hadn't screwed up.
Patreon doesnt matter. Literally no developer cares what Patreon has to say, thats just something people say out of habit. Patreon doesnt have some guy in a broom closet downloading porn games and checking them for incest, loli, shota, gore, etc. Patreon ONLY acts on something if its mass flagged and reported. its 2025 and people are still acting like Patreon is this big bad boogeyman thats going to shutdown a creator for even thinking about having incest in their game when in reality Patreon doesnt give 2 flying fucks about it unless its brought to their attention and jammed in their face.
Discord, August 2024, the issue arose from Patreon seeing that ASWS had the incest tag her on this forum:
Yep, the tag is there. I hadn't looked.
This isnt anything new, developers have been shirking Patreon for years and in Patreons defense, they dont really care as long as its not brought to their attention with sirens blaring and alerts blasting. Its like those warnings before a game "Are you 18/21+ if not you cant play", devs have to put it in for legal reasons but no one actually cares who is playing that game.
I highly doubt patreon uses a pirate site tag system to determine if one of their users is following the rules. More likely than not, some puritan(s) did a mass report on patreons of games that they did not like, which is usually the whole nsfw gaming industry, and patreon did some bans so they can get a victory and calm down.
The bestiality tag stroke me the wrong way on this game, not because I dislike the content, but because the tag doesn't belong here. A werewolf is a monster. Last time I checked, there is no horse or dog fcking in the game, unless someone wants to give me the good news.
I did not set out to include F95. When the subject of Chyos not caring about Patreon came up, I just searched the Discord for "From:Chyos Patreon". I had no idea what I would find. I was in fact surprised to find such a strong piece of evidence for my case.
Nothing stops another "fan-made" patch to add said content though. Just don't put it anywhere near patreon. This is how many games functioned for years and still function now.
I can't double check this since I lost my supporter privileges, but it really does not matter what reason Patreon gave Chyos, since my point is that f95 contains so much content unrelated to the devs of the games here, that they would be crazy to distribute punishments to their revenue generating userbase on such shaky evidence, as they would lose a lot of creators that way.
And I had another thought about the fan-made patches. Remember Chyos always tells us what he is working on officially, which always follows Patreon's guidelins.
