hmc15

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Of all the teasers that L&P has shown only 1 teaser,Sam/Sophia event,has shown the event actual happening.
I have seen the teaser and I do think that "The whoops" happens near the end of the event,after the last teaser,the one that you have seen as Sophia looks far too unconcerned.
What does this even mean? Am confused just reading your comment XD
 

ashitanojoe

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stoper is more transparent in his communications, even on discord he is very cordial in giving explanations of what is happening, on speed they are not on the same level; the number of renderings does not serve to quantify the development of the story, each update of JOHN always has good content and development of the story; here we always have little or nothing.
also the renders of stoper seem better to me and there are many more animations.
I also don't like L&P when it doesn't keep its promises; he says he goes to 1440p then denies it, says he seeks help then says it won't help him.
coherence friend, coherence

but this is a controversy that has nothing to do with the topic


then we are talking about advertising, the teaser that come out are used to market the product; why doesn't L&P want them to be shared? don't want to lose more money?
stoper is using Gen 8 models and L&P is still using Gen 3 models, so that could explain why stoper's look a little better.

As far as comparing these two, they both do take a frustratingly long amount of time with each update, which in large part is due to the quality of their renders requiring more time, but stoper can do so much with half or even 1/4 the renders of L&P. JOHN has both an interesting narrative and a very realisitic setting just like AWAM, but in just 300-500 renders stoper can not only advance the story in a significant way, but can also tease, titilate, and reach a satisfying "climax" with their sex scenes in ways that are very natural and believable. JOHN does also play more linear and has less branching paths and characters, but its strength is that it is concise whereas AWAM can so often feel bloated and long-winded.
It's true that in JOHN the story is told more effectively, with less renders and less fillers, but at the same time the characters are less elaborated, we don't know too much about the stories and personalities of the side characters and there are almost no subplots, like Dylan being bullied in the school or Ellie and Julia friendship here, for example. And Sophia is even more complex than Jessica, she has more doubts about being unfaithful and we know more about her internal thoughts. All of that requires more renders here than in JOHN. That doesn't mean that a lot of renders aren't unnecessary, they are.
 
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Well, for those of us who are paying patrons for some of these games, it's pretty self regulating. Like any service/subscription type of things. If you don't deliver what the supporters want, the supporters quit paying. Just that simple. No one keeps paying if they don't feel like they aren't getting their money's worth. Same way Dish and DirectV are losing millions of subscriber and other services are adding millions. I stopped supporting Milfy City and let the developer know why. I had no faith in him, he didn't seem to have any passion or belief in his game, and after no updates at all he started a new game in hopes of getting new money. I do believe in L&P and have had long exchanges with him, and his game is different enough I keep supporting. Not at a high level. I've made it clear my level of support will go up when he learns to put more product out at a faster pace. He's trying some things to do that.

As for the graphics, they're fine for me. I'm here for the story for this one. Interestingly, one popular game (that I support), Midlife Crisis has much worse graphics that AWAM but my wife and I enjoy that one also. In fact that developer even puts some in game jokes in on screens where he's struggled with the graphics.
I stopped supporting L&P last year it's obvious for me that he is pushing this game with his belly, he uses the tactic with long updates where he shows some potential good content but in the end the game is dull as ever with confusing storyline and no sex, he deceives his patrons with this you are a good example and how long ago this game was created? you barely see a pussy...in the beginning his idea of creating a game that depicted a paced storyline/corruption was good i liked it but so far he absolutely should have more content but no...the weird storyline and extremely slow corruption continues
 

Mr Killer D

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I agree
i dont know about you.its to long for me to wait for the intimate scene's,like i said I've been playing from the start hope u understand :)
I agree that.
We can wait for intimate scenes in the story but we can't wait in the game development.
As an example :

If we have to play 1000 renders for sex scenesduring gameplay, that's fine (with me).
But iit's too long for me to wait 6/7 months to get 1000 renders in the game update


(Sorry for my bad english... its a google translate thing)
 
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Milflover1010

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The dev must speed up the development for the game as their are no animations while groping teasing and its just a pic novel and if the story is already planned then why taking so much time and also now he has better patreon and followers to update its technical stuff as he his earning better so he must need to fast the updates look at other dev they take time but atlest their are animated scenes like superalex amnesia, the awakening and other games
 

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The dev must speed up the development for the game as their are no animations while groping teasing and its just a pic novel and if the story is already planned then why taking so much time and also now he has better patreon and followers to update its technical stuff as he his earning better so he must need to fast the updates look at other dev they take time but atlest their are animated scenes like superalex amnesia, the awakening and other games
It's been a long time since I saw any sensible criticism in here
 
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Jude6

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I have a request -

Can any of the lovely, helpful people who know how to dig through the game's code please tell me what the flags are for the Emma scene on day 18? (When Sophia speculates about getting Emma & Dylan together)

I've realized that in order for Emma to show up to Sophia's class that day you have to meet a minimum level of Dylan points/Dylan scenes - but for the life of me I haven't been able to what it is.
 

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I stopped supporting L&P last year it's obvious for me that he is pushing this game with his belly, he uses the tactic with long updates where he shows some potential good content but in the end the game is dull as ever with confusing storyline and no sex, he deceives his patrons with this you are a good example and how long ago this game was created? you barely see a pussy...in the beginning his idea of creating a game that depicted a paced storyline/corruption was good i liked it but so far he absolutely should have more content but no...the weird storyline and extremely slow corruption continues
Well, you made my point. Supporters who no longer feel they are getting their money's worth will leave. I've been around way to long to be "deceived" - I just started supporting him a couple of months ago, I've been a professional writer for over 20 years and was a writer in the computer gaming industry for years and have a lot of friends who were and are developers of some of the top games in the industry (RDR2, Witcher 3, etc.) and I've been chatting with L&P privately for a while. If what I see makes me decide what I'm getting vs. what I want from him doesn't match, he will stop getting my money. Really simple. You've already reached that point, though I assume you liked the game enough that you're still spending time reading this thread and enough originally that you paid money. But, again, so far I've gotten my $15 worth ($5 per month currently) and I'll make the judgement of how much I'm willing to pay for what I'm getting. I do that for several games at this point (and not just adult visual novels, other Patreaon and Kickstarter games.) I won't get emotional or personal about it (and I don't think you have either) any more than I would get emotional or personal about, say, a streaming video service I subscribe to.
 
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Well, you made my point. Supporters who no longer feel they are getting their money's worth will leave. I've been around way to long to be "deceived" - I just started supporting him a couple of months ago, I've been a professional writer for over 20 years and was a writer in the computer gaming industry for years and have a lot of friends who were and are developers of some of the top games in the industry (RDR2, Witcher 3, etc.) and I've been chatting with L&P privately for a while. If what I see makes me decide what I'm getting vs. what I want from him doesn't match, he will stop getting my money. Really simple. You've already reached that point, though I assume you liked the game enough that you're still spending time reading this thread and enough originally that you paid money. But, again, so far I've gotten my $15 worth ($5 per month currently) and I'll make the judgement of how much I'm willing to pay for what I'm getting. I do that for several games at this point (and not just adult visual novels, other Patreaon and Kickstarter games.) I won't get emotional or personal about it (and I don't think you have either) any more than I would get emotional or personal about, say, a streaming video service I subscribe to.
As a very experienced writer, especially in the gaming industry, wondering if you would agree with my assessment that the problem with this game is the length of script (esp. lines of dialog) is inefficient at delivering substantive content? I don't recall a scene I thought should be cut outright, but if if you look through the script files there are scenes having 25-30 lines of dialogue about whether or not the boys need a ride to school, have time for breakfast, and so on. Multiply by 1.5 for the alternating GW/Filthy routes (some of dialogue and renders are used in both routes). That seems gratuitous given its significance to the plot, story, character.
 

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Thoughts on the debate about the casino event and the problems that it caused.
Sophia showed bad judgement in leaving her husband alone at the casino.She could of been more supportive/understanding to her husband problem,instead of going to the night club for some fun.I don't blame Sophia 100% as I think Liam would of known the problems that going to the casino may cause.So Liam would of needed the support of his wife even more in this environment.Who had the idea of going to the casino in the first place as I cannot remember?
 
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