VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Notretsam]

Well, at least what Dylan fans would want to see. I admit I'm in the minority, but I don't want to see Dylan have sex with anyone. I still consider him to be underage, and no-one has been able to present a decent argument against it. But he is still a Parker, so to see him with a gf by endgame on the GW route would be nice

I personally stick to the filthy route as no interest in good wife route. However, it makes no sense to see anything sexual with any other character besides Sophia on the GW route. Unless, as I stated, she accidentally walks in on it.

L&P's already breaking Patreon policy by having incest, so could easily break policy by having an underage character. You know as well as I Dylan's made using probably a small precentage of a "tween" asset. And tweens are prepubescent. So no, once again, not a decent argument for Dylan being of legal age

As for Dylan being underage and the type of model L&P has used, I disagree with you there but do admit, it would be so much more believable if devs had school settings set in a college and not mention the word "school" or "high school" at all.

Although here in the UK, you can leave school at 16 (after 4th year) but you can stay on an extra 2 years if you choose to (after 6th year). That means you leave school at 18 but would turn 18 during the 6th and final year, so you could lean towards that, that Dylan and other students are in there final school year and they are 18.

Now I don't know where or if there is an actual place in the world that L&P has AWAM set, am going to presume it's fictional and therefore the UK school system would work as an explanation on why Dylan and other students are 18+.

Far as am aware US students stay in high school till there 18 as well but not 100% sure.

However, I just pretend its a college they attending and not a high school.

 

[Talcum Powder]

I personally stick to the filthy route as no interest in good wife route. However, it makes no sense to see anything sexual with any other character besides Sophia on the GW route. Unless, as I stated, she accidentally walks in on it.




As for Dylan being underage and the type of model L&P has used, I disagree with you there but do admit, it would be so much more believable if devs had school settings set in a college and not mention the word "school" or "high school" at all.

Although here in the UK, you can leave school at 16 (after 4th year) but you can stay on an extra 2 years if you choose to (after 6th year). That means you leave school at 18 but would turn 18 during the 6th and final year, so you could lean towards that, that Dylan and other students are in there final school year and they are 18.

However, since the game does say all characters are above 18, I just pretend its a college they attending and not a high school.

Now I don't know where or if there is an actual place in the world that L&P has AWAM set, am going to presume it's fictional and therefore the UK school system would work as an explanation on why Dylan and other students are 18+.

Far as am aware US students stay in high school till there 18 as well but not 100% sure.

In the US the most common scenario is, school year runs early September through late June, so if your birthday is in the first six months of the year you will turn 18 before the end of your last year in high school, if your birthday is between July and December you will turn 18 after the end of the school year.

 

[Notretsam]

In the US the most common scenario is, school year runs early September through late June, so if your birthday is in the first six months of the year you will turn 18 before the end of your last year in high school, if your birthday is between July and December you will turn 18 after the end of the school year.

yup, which means students can be over the age of 18 in a US high school as well as here in the UK

 

[mulerider]

yup, which means students can be over the age of 18 in a US high school as well as here in the UK

and a few if they are held back and have to repeat a year at one point they could be 19 their last year

 

[gilgamesh9]

i see one of the milkers still at it lol

 

[sept0342]

10% jump.

 

[Matt1]

Of course Aiden will want to sleep with Sophia which is the natural progression that route will lead to. On what planet does a student not want to sleep with their hot teacher? LOL. Only question to be seen is if L&P is somehow blackmailed by some to not have that happen in his game, like he was into shortening the Bennett route. Ironic?

 

[ancienregimele]

Of course Aiden will want to sleep with Sophia which is the natural progression that route will lead to. On what planet does a student not want to sleep with their hot teacher? LOL. Only question to be seen is if L&P is somehow blackmailed by some to not have that happen in the game, like he was into shortening the Bennet route. Ironic?

Regretably, the anti-blackmail lobby have successfully inflicted their views on the rest of us. How this was done I'm not sure, (not being a paying supporter of this creator..... tho' I believe being very vocal may have helped) but other than a perhaps misguided over-protective attitude towards Sophia, I can't reconcile this, from a moral perspective, with a game that seems to take the probability of mutual incestuous relationships in its' stride, with all the associated potential familial damage after the "pleasure." Personally I can't stand incest but that doesn't mean that I would try to persuade the Dev to water it down, cut it short, or generally spoil another person's fun. Choices are provided in this game, so if you don't care for something, you can avoid or work round it. If I become a supporter, (which depends on faster output & is thus unlikely to happen), I would try to do some lobbying of my own, in a belated attempt to counteract the view which would have Sophia behave reprehensibly of her own free will, rather than be coerced into something against her better nature. I can only hope the Dev rethinks this.

 

[Matt1]

L&P's scenario for the Aiden and Bennett routes were unique and well played - Through the teacher's/co-worker's son. But a few have put so much pressure on the developer that they backed off or altered course which is quite hilarious and ironic. I don't like blackmail.....so I'll threaten to walk away from the game/lobby/whatever we want to call it in order to make someone (e.g. L&P) change their plans for their game. That in itself is blackmail.

And agree, there are ways to avoid routes that one does not prefer. Or hit the skip button which literally zooms so quickly that one would completely miss seeing a scene. But apparently that is not good enough for some who harp ad nauseum of their displeasure about the Aiden and Bennett routes.

 

[DonkeyFace]

That's sexual abuse, not intimacy. Sophia didn't choose to do it.

Sophia also didn't choose to have Tyler's hand on her inner thigh, but there it was. She also didn't choose to have Patricia grab her by the head and turn her face and then plant one on her lips either, but it happened. The choice to let it go further came after the fact. Were these other two instances abuse? Most would probably say no because these other two characters are not adversarial. However Tyler was pretty much still a stranger at this point. My Man Bennet is very proud, and Sophia attempted to cut him down to size by saying he probably has a 3 inch weenie, so in an attempt to protect his ego, he proved her wrong. Outwardly she displayed annoyance at this domineering gesture, but her inner monologue told a different story, one of lust.

On another note: Contrary to how most people view the Sophia/Bennet saga, It is NOT blackmail or extortion. A more accurate term to describe their situation is one of bartering, or even reciprocity. Dylan didn't pass his test because he neglected his studies (probably because he was too busy plotting ways to get into mama's panties). Nevertheless mama bear thinks it's unfair, and approaches Bennet about giving her twit son another chance. He basically tells her that rules are rules and it would be unfair to his other students if he were to break the rules just for her son. So she keeps attempting to persuade him to give twit boy another chance. But Bennet is a hard ass, yet like most of us men, has a weakness for sex. So he proposes a deal. He'll break the rules on her behalf, but ONLY for this one thing (this weakness). Take it or leave it. (I know I wrote something similar to this earlier in the thread, but it was more exaggerated and silly. But now I'm being serious).

Can anyone tell me how Bennet is blackmailing her? That term does not apply here. Aiden (yes) but Bennet (no). Now sure, what Bennet is doing is rather scummy and distasteful, but it is not blackmail.

 

[DonkeyFace]

Regretably, the anti-blackmail lobby have successfully inflicted their views on the rest of us. How this was done I'm not sure, (not being a paying supporter of this creator..... tho' I believe being very vocal may have helped) but other than a perhaps misguided over-protective attitude towards Sophia, I can't reconcile this, from a moral perspective, with a game that seems to take the probability of mutual incestuous relationships in its' stride, with all the associated potential familial damage after the "pleasure." Personally I can't stand incest but that doesn't mean that I would try to persuade the Dev to water it down, cut it short, or generally spoil another person's fun. Choices are provided in this game, so if you don't care for something, you can avoid or work round it. If I become a supporter, (which depends on faster output & is thus unlikely to happen), I would try to do some lobbying of my own, in a belated attempt to counteract the view which would have Sophia behave reprehensibly of her own free will, rather than be coerced into something against her better nature. I can only hope the Dev rethinks this.

L&P's scenario for the Aiden and Bennett routes were unique and well played - Through the teacher's/co-worker's son. But a few have put so much pressure on the developer that they backed off or altered course which is quite hilarious and ironic. I don't like blackmail.....so I'll threaten to walk away from the game/lobby/whatever we want to call it in order to make someone (e.g. L&P) change their plans for their game. That in itself is blackmail.

And agree, there are ways to avoid routes that one does not prefer. Or hit the skip button which literally zooms so quickly that one would completely miss seeing a scene. But apparently that is not good enough for some who harp ad nauseum of their displeasure about the Aiden and Bennett routes.

I love you two fellas. We are Kindred spirits for the most part.

 

[Jstforme]

Sophia also didn't choose to have Tyler's hand on her inner thigh, but there it was. She also didn't choose to have Patricia grab her by the head and turn her face and then plant one on her lips either, but it happened. The choice to let it go further came after the fact. Were these other two instances abuse? Most would probably say no because these other two characters are not adversarial. However Tyler was pretty much still a stranger at this point. My Man Bennet is very proud, and Sophia attempted to cut him down to size by saying he probably has a 3 inch weenie, so in an attempt to protect his ego, he proved her wrong. Outwardly she displayed annoyance at this domineering gesture, but her inner monologue told a different story, one of lust.

On another note: Contrary to how most people view the Sophia/Bennet saga, It is NOT blackmail or extortion. A more accurate term to describe their situation is one of bartering, or even reciprocity. Dylan didn't pass his test because he neglected his studies (probably because he was too busy plotting ways to get into mama's panties). Nevertheless mama bear thinks it's unfair, and approaches Bennet about giving her twit son another chance. He basically tells her that rules are rules and it would be unfair to his other students if he were to break the rules just for her son. So she keeps attempting to persuade him to give twit boy another chance. But Bennet is a hard ass, yet like most of us men, has a weakness for sex. So he proposes a deal. He'll break the rules on her behalf, but ONLY for this one thing (this weakness). Take it or leave it. (I know I wrote something similar to this earlier in the thread, but it was more exaggerated and silly. But now I'm being serious).

Can anyone tell me how Bennet is blackmailing her? That term does not apply here. Aiden (yes) but Bennet (no). Now sure, what Bennet is doing is rather scummy and distasteful, but it is not blackmail.

HAHAHAHAHA, I like how you try painting Bennet in a positive light. "he's a man of morals, just week when it comes to sex"...like the dude has never tried taking advantage of a situation, or he's really just a misunderstood good guy that lives by a code of rules...he just wants to be fair to his students . Sophia pressured him into that situation, he wouldn't have done anything otherwise. He's really a good guy that was taken advantage of by Sophia, to help her poor idiot son.
Bennet is a dirtbag, and he's portrayed that way IMHO...he saw an advantage, and he's going to squeeze it for everything he can get away with. After he found out he's her son, he gave him bad grades on purpose, waiting for his opportunity to take advantage...Sophia wants her son treated fairly like the other students, she has to bend to his will...maybe not outright blackmail, but downright dirty.

PS: I love the story line with Bennet, it's spicy and can't wait to see it unfold...but don't fill yourself with delusions that Bennet is a good guy that is being taken advantage of by Sophia.

 

[ashitanojoe]

No offense, but Aiden and Bennet are just one-sided characters, they are just awful people, nothing more. There is no profundity in their personalities, they exist merely to cause trouble which leads to lewd scenes, that's all. And if we demand to the dev deeper characters, the development of the game will slow down even more.

 

[DonkeyFace]

HAHAHAHAHA, I like how you try painting Bennet in a positive light.

Ha. maybe a little bit Yes he is a scumbag, but a beloved one.

PS: I love the story line with Bennet, it's spicy and can't wait to see it unfold...but don't fill yourself with delusions that Bennet is a good guy that is being taken advantage of by Sophia.

Sounds like you are referring to my intentionally silly post here: #34,079

 

[kevin.a]

Does anybody know if are going to have an update of the museum guys, the boy of the dance club and the janitor plots? In this case, in wich update? Do you think that L&P is planning some kind of sexual interaction between Sophia and the postman?

 

[XaGnard]

No offense, but Aiden and Bennet are just one-sided characters, they are just awful people, nothing more. There is no profundity in their personalities, they exist merely to cause trouble which leads to lewd scenes, that's all. And if we demand to the dev deeper characters, the development of the game will slow down even more.

L&P should have told the VN with a maximum of one blackmail stories. The school is presented by L&P almost as a war zone. It's not only Aiden and Bannet, but also the director of the school and the janitor who have harassed the MC. No one there behaves even remotely realistically.

Does anybody know if are going to have an update of the museum guys, the boy of the dance club and the janitor plots? In this case, in wich update? Do you think that L&P is planning some kind of sexual interaction between Sophia and the postman?

Do the collage guys really need to be there to tell the story? Does it really have to have all these side jobs? Does the game really need the casino story besides the bullies at school already exist?

To be honest I still hope that L&P will finally drop most of these side stories. There are just too many storylines for someone with the drive to perfectionism like L&P to ever finish.

 

[Bane71]

L&P should have told the VN with a maximum of one blackmail stories. The school is presented by L&P almost as a war zone. It's not only Aiden and Bannet, but also the director of the school and the janitor who have harassed the MC. No one there behaves even remotely realistically.

You're right! This is not a school, but an obstacle course for Sofia!

 

[Hentai_Lover00]

well thats a lot of render sure but if it takes lot of render for Sophia just to get off of the bed or Get out from the Car then it has no meaning

 

[Scarlet56]

With the idea of doing 1/3 update, I hope L&P will not fall into the genre trap:
OK, I'm going to be able to develop an event well because I only have this one to do.
And thereby increase the art or whatever you want.
I'm afraid of that.

 

[Old Dog]

Does anybody know if are going to have an update of the museum guys, the boy of the dance club and the janitor plots? In this case, in wich update? Do you think that L&P is planning some kind of sexual interaction between Sophia and the postman?

The museum boys will be back on playable day 14.
As for the janitor we have little information on him and only know that he will not play a large part in the game.
Sophia has said that they may meet again on a Friday/Saturday,at the end of the club scene,but it could happen even though Sophia has a low opinion of Tyler and knows that he is only after 1 things.