VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[codex35]

Ellie/Vicky!!!!!!!Don't you mean Sophia/Vicky?

No. He say Ellie + Vicky this is + not /

 

[Old Dog]

No. He say Ellie + Vicky this is + not /

Vicky is not a lesbian and neither is Ellie as she has Logan as a boyfriend(for now)

 

[fortuna95]

Ellie/Vicky!!!!!!!Don't you mean Sophia/Vicky?

I meaned 2 diff. Sophia scenes: with Ellie, later Vicky.

 

[lockerxx]

Vicky is not a lesbian and neither is Ellie as she has Logan as a boyfriend(for now)

for now but sophie will turn her

 

[RUSSIAN MAFIA]

Mmmmmm .... They'll go to the toilet and ............ Sea options!

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't think Sophia is going to sleep with any man in the whole game.... with a woman yes, but with a man never.
You will see.

This would be ballsy as hell. It would be such a trolling of his supporters that I would have to reluctantly applaud him. I’d never support him again, but it would be memorable as all hell.

 

[willfer]

oh, so you're to blame

Laughs in evil Mr. Burns laugh

 

[codex35]

Vicky is not a lesbian and neither is Ellie as she has Logan as a boyfriend(for now)

hmmmm. sure

 

[sept0342]

Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't think Sophia is going to sleep with any man in the whole game.... with a woman yes, but with a man never.
You will see.

Then what's the point of all this

the script of the game, is it written somewhere?

In L&P's head.

 

[AchedCroissant]

Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't think Sophia is going to sleep with any man in the whole game.... with a woman yes, but with a man never.
You will see.

I really prefer that route because there are so few games where the main character is a woman and with that plus of having a female character I prefer to go on the lesbian side because let's face it, it is more exciting to see two sexy women fucking and that for me making a male character fuck my protagonist is as if he was fucking me xd

 

[lockerxx]

i wonder if sophie could steal vicky boyfriend . not for me but a lot of people would enjoy that

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Sophia and Alyssas next meeting with be hot/erotic as the last event with them was setting this up for there next meeting.

I think any Lesbian scenes between Sophia and Alyssa would be hot!! But I am sure someone, probably Alley Cat, mentioned that in the last update, the scenes between Sophia and Alyssa gave Filthy Points rather than Lesbian Temptation.

 

[Deleted member 1188385]

This game could have a lot of sequels. Sophia in jail like women in prison movies, sophia pornstar, sophia and the husband swingers and more.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Well so far the maximum achievable is F > 30*GW. On the lesbian route it's only slightly under 3*GW, and that's after Liam catches Sophia having a shower with Ellie. And is a bit of a "clueless dope", since he shrugs his shoulders and okays it. Now with the bathroom lock being fixed, Liam (or Dylan) can't catch them anyway

My ratios were not based on actuals, just laying out the logic. But I do wonder, and your earlier post about Liam being a hot head reminded me of this especially, that maybe Liam isn't such a dope and he may be catching on, just starting to gather suspicion. Am interested to see if and how that turns out.

I'm talking about endgame consequences, that Talcum Powder appeared to say he could accept.

Let me clarify, I absolutely do accept that everything blowing up in Sophia's face and losing her family and financial security is a very plausible end scenario.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I'm talking about endgame consequences, that Talcum Powder appeared to say he could accept. And since the lack of sex with Liam is entirely Sophia's choice at this stage, that the mansion is entirely a benefit of his job, and that he is not cheating, he's the one holding the cards. So if Sophia is caught getting dick from somewhere else, it's unlikely to end well for her.

Unless it is the Morello route. Probably not the next update but a future one. What if Liam was given an Indecent Proposal? Lose the house )which would 100% be his fault) or know Sophia has to have sex.....

 

[Alley_Cat]

yep!
Ellie + Vicky scenes


+ Liam (good wife) or Don Morello

I meaned 2 diff. Sophia scenes: with Ellie, later Vicky.

Unless you're saying Deshawn is a woman, the Vicky event isn't lesbian.

I think any Lesbian scenes between Sophia and Alyssa would be hot!! But I am sure someone, probably Alley Cat, mentioned that in the last update, the scenes between Sophia and Alyssa gave Filthy Points rather than Lesbian Temptation.

From what I could tell, this appears to be the case.

 

[Huge4878]

any news when sophia have a scene with other man (janitor, aiden, sam, dylan or zack ?) sorry for english too

 

[Talcum Powder]

Well it is a bit extreme but if Sophia is caught(underage sex) then losing everything/house/job/husband and possibly banned from teaching then maybe suicide becomes an option

Dark, way dark.

I'd referenced Anna Karenina a few months back (for other reasons (which, coincidentally, also ties into the is this art or not art debate from a few days ago)) but yeah, I don't see this game going that far down that road, but maybe... it could very well be a template for this story.

 

[XaGnard]

One thing that L&P is really good at making is long term unresolved questions. I think that is a part of what gets people hooked on his game. I will toss some questions out that nobody can really answer to show what I mean.

Who will be the first man for Sophia to cheat with?

What are the remaining tasks that Aiden has written?

When / Where will the subway rapists return? When that happens will it be a rape scene or will Sophia go along with it?

What day will the first cheating sex scene be on with a man?

Will there be endings where she leaves her family to run off with someone?

Will there be a family foursome ending?

Is Liam cheating?

When will the museum guys make a return!?

L&P has really started a lot of stories over the last three years and with all of this stories there are open questions. However, it is not really a big challenge to come up with the beginnings of more and more stories. Much more interesting is the question whether L&P is able to bring these stories to a meaningful end.

By now, all these side stories seem to me more like an attempt to delay the progress of the actual plot for as long as possible. If he would have left out a few of these side stories, like the casino story, all the side jobs, the hair cutting and tanning salon events, ... there would be more time to actually tell a story. The fact that the quality of L&P's work, apart from beautiful pictures, can probably only be rated in another three to five years, due to the slow progress in game days, should give everyone who still spends money something to think about. Yes, I'm curious how some of the the stories continue, just I certainly do not give any more money for L&P until he stops with the teasing and finally go on with the main plots.

 

[Alley_Cat]

My ratios were not based on actuals, just laying out the logic. But I do wonder, and your earlier post about Liam being a hot head reminded me of this especially, that maybe Liam isn't such a dope and he may be catching on, just starting to gather suspicion. Am interested to see if and how that turns out.

I could tell that, which is why I gave actual numbers. For the straight route the maximum you can get is Filthy 91, GW 3 (numbers thanks to Mamonetti), and for the lesbian route my numbers are Filthy 28, GW 10. And curiously my numbers do allow for the 6 point drop in Filthy while still maintaining F > G2

Let me clarify, I absolutely do accept that everything blowing up in Sophia's face and losing her family and financial security is a very plausible end scenario.

Then what would you consider a plausible reaction from Liam to finding out his wife is getting dick from elsewhere? Especially since in his mind he's working his arse off to provide for her