yihman1

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May 11, 2017
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Some diagrams to show that the game has become more complex (for day #19 this is an estimate related to the trend)
Number of lines in script per day :
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Complexity of the code (basic estimation with "if else" presences)
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Number of choices per day
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A lot of people thought that since a few versions it was not going faster. It's the opposite, in fact, the story is much more complex since the day #16
That's called scope creep.
 
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Scarlet56

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Oct 13, 2019
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I'm not a patron, I would be if the updates were closer. (It's a fact, they never will be) :cry:
As a non-patron, I have nothing to say to L&P, I simply suggest things that could possibly speed up the process. :)

One thing is certain, we groan, we are not happy, okay.
But with each update, I would still enjoy playing it. Again and again. ;)
The game is far too good to miss. :love:

Like I said before, I'm over the age of fapping on a VN.
History prevails. For me, my tastes, this one is.(y) :love:
 

hzjujk

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Sep 19, 2020
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I can't understand where the 10,000+ dollar number comes from. Does that mean an amount after taxes or not?
In Germany these are around 50%. With around 1500 supporters, this number would only be possible if most donate
10 dollars per month. Is that a legitimate assumption?
What the fable for Manga / Hentai from a member here I can understand well. There are draftsmen who draw an
erotic scene with a few lines that leaves you breathless. But do you really want to compare your examples with
such a picture. Do you think really the efforts is comparable.
Day19_4_73_Sophia_sits_outside_and_thinks_what_the_hells_wrong_with_her.jpg

I think you made a bad choice as an example. I think to see what you like a little too much through pink glasses.
Of course, the other way around, the argument also applies to me.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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Apr 23, 2017
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your developer perspective is certainly relevant :)
I think the balance between possibilities and complixity is difficult to find
Most games often give the option of different stories near the end, L&P in the first third.
If for the next playable day, it goes to above 15000, 200 if else, and 100 choices, ... I will start to be worried

Hope L&P comes sometimes on the thread to read the constructive comments :unsure:
He does keep up with comments on here but usually keeps quite. And the constructive comments he usually handles them as personal attacks instead of ideas that could be beneficial to his design.
 

abram1

Member
May 24, 2020
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I can't understand where the 10,000+ dollar number comes from. Does that mean an amount after taxes or not?
In Germany these are around 50%. With around 1500 supporters, this number would only be possible if most donate
10 dollars per month. Is that a legitimate assumption?
What the fable for Manga / Hentai from a member here I can understand well. There are draftsmen who draw an
erotic scene with a few lines that leaves you breathless. But do you really want to compare your examples with
such a picture. Do you think really the efforts is comparable.
I think you made a bad choice as an example. I think to see what you like a little too much through pink glasses.
Of course, the other way around, the argument also applies to me.
That's maths 5th grade, proportions.
The last open info about his earnings: Dec 30 2019. Number of patrons 917, cash per month $7233. On February 23 2021 he has 1529 backers. $7233/317= $X/1529. And our $X = $12000. That's, surely, an approximation.
Don't forget about Patreon's fee, in any case its his hard earned cash.

Dude, people see what they wanna see, arguments and logical explanations are worthless here. War is peace, black is white, L&P is a milker. If we don't support this line of thinking, we're morons and not the other way around. The only thing they are capable of is to facepalm you to death, as their communication skills leaves much to be desired.
 

Notretsam

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Game Developer
Nov 1, 2017
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How many time does this have to be said in here? It's simple...........don't like this VN? Then unwatch and move on but quit your whining.

People need to learn to enjoy what they get and stop frigging demanding other people do shit the way they want them to.

You get what you get, when you get it from AWAM, don't like it, then go find something else on this endless forum of content or the massive library of porn on the web, it's not like y'all don't have plenty of options.

This complaint had gone quiet for a long time but sure is back with a vengeance from what I see.

don't like my post? then facepalm it, report it, do what you like but what I say will always be true, so many people posting in here who clearly have nothing better to do.

rant over.
 

hmc15

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Apr 4, 2019
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Where are you getting 15% from? We're finishing playable day 12 out of 30, so we're more like 40% through. I'm not saying that you need to like the development cycle, but it isn't as bad as 15%.
We are on version 0.115 and next update will be 0.130 hence I was WRONG and it is in fact 11.5% to 13%. Not even 15%
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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Aug 23, 2020
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We are on version 0.115 and next update will be 0.130 hence I was WRONG and it is in fact 11.5% to 13%. Not even 15%
Yeah, I think you're putting too much stock into the version numbers. They're just numbers and don't represent the actual progress of the game. Like Apollodore said, we probably have more than 60% to go due to the game being backloaded, but we're not nearly as far behind as you think we are.
 
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armion82

Devoted Member
Mar 28, 2017
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For the people talking about milking. It's the opposite actually:

- Dating My Daughter is less popular than this game in this site, still the dev has the double of patrons than L&P.
- This game is almost four times more popular than Fashion Business here: 22 M views against 6 M views, still DecentMonkey has more patrons and earns more money there.
- The Dev of Acting Lessons and Being a DIK started his first game later than this one and he already finished one and his other one is very advanced. He has like 7 times more patrons.

So, the fact that this dev has been very slow and unproductive has prevented him to earn more patrons and money. We are talking about a very popular game which earnings correspond for games with 1/4 its popularity.
A big chunk of the views is because some people press F5 constantly around the release.For that many views it will be normal this thread to be at least 5000 pages not 2600.Because here we don't have 3000-4000 deleted pages for the last 3 years like Milfy City and Summertime Saga,for example.
I can't understand where the 10,000+ dollar number comes from. Does that mean an amount after taxes or not?
In Germany these are around 50%. With around 1500 supporters, this number would only be possible if most donate
10 dollars per month. Is that a legitimate assumption?
He was making more than $7000 with 900 patrons.
Probably some are making a guess that with more than 1500 patrons it would be normal to make more than 10 000.
 
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