VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Hlextor]

Dylan is not the man she wants, but someone who only stirs up her growing urges. Yes of course, he is there for the incestuous side. But Sophia doesn't want him like a man.

Not in the same way she might desire Sam, with whom she shares common tastes.

Nevertheless, it will come to the final sex between Sophia and Dylan. L&P doesn't want the usual cliché that has been played a hundred times in other M/S porngames. "Oh my god, my son has a big cock, I want to fuck him right now!".
For L&P the mother-son relationship is first in the focus. So to speak the protective role of Sophia as a mother. She recognizes or tries by means of sex-Ed to help Dylan to be closer to girls of the same age. It may be that he is partly stupid for it and also behaves strangely for some.
But one should not forget that he is 16 years old. And there the hormones play a little crazy.

Sam is actually no better. He only has the advantage that he is not Sophia's son. Sam is no better than Dylan in his behavior towards Sophia!
What is important now is that L&P shows us how the behavior of Dylan develops towards Sophia and vice versa. Sophia needs to move away from sex-Ed to sexual desire for Dylan. How he will do/create that is a mystery to me though.

 

[Old Dog]

Nevertheless, it will come to the final sex between Sophia and Dylan. L&P doesn't want the usual cliché that has been played a hundred times in other M/S porngames. "Oh my god, my son has a big cock, I want to fuck him right now!".
For L&P the mother-son relationship is first in the focus. So to speak the protective role of Sophia as a mother. She recognizes or tries by means of sex-Ed to help Dylan to be closer to girls of the same age. It may be that he is partly stupid for it and also behaves strangely for some.
But one should not forget that he is 16 years old. And there the hormones play a little crazy.

Sam is actually no better. He only has the advantage that he is not Sophia's son. Sam is no better than Dylan in his behavior towards Sophia!
What is important now is that L&P shows us how the behavior of Dylan develops towards Sophia and vice versa. Sophia needs to move away from sex-Ed to sexual desire for Dylan. How he will do/create that is a mystery to me though.

Sophia's desires for her son did surface when they did the fashion shoot(solo Dylan) then got buried away again,one of he few times that Dylan actually thought with his brain instead of his dick.
Dylan and Sam are just as bad as each other with each of them trying to get one with over on one another.

 

[Catherine1972]

Nevertheless, it will come to the final sex between Sophia and Dylan. L&P doesn't want the usual cliché that has been played a hundred times in other M/S porngames. "Oh my god, my son has a big cock, I want to fuck him right now!".
For L&P the mother-son relationship is first in the focus. So to speak the protective role of Sophia as a mother. She recognizes or tries by means of sex-Ed to help Dylan to be closer to girls of the same age. It may be that he is partly stupid for it and also behaves strangely for some.
But one should not forget that he is 16 years old. And there the hormones play a little crazy.

Sam is actually no better. He only has the advantage that he is not Sophia's son. Sam is no better than Dylan in his behavior towards Sophia!
What is important now is that L&P shows us how the behavior of Dylan develops towards Sophia and vice versa. Sophia needs to move away from sex-Ed to sexual desire for Dylan. How he will do/create that is a mystery to me though.

For Sam, it remains my choice if Sophia is to have a relationship with a young person (adulescent = adolescent-adult / teenager-adult). Nothing to do with age, or the filial relationship, it's just personal preference.

The educational sex, we talked about it, it is obvious for the teacher Sophia.

But with Dylan ?? Is it a pressure from some here to have a sex scene between mother and son? Or is this the intention of L&P? I don't know, I just gave one possibility among others.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Mailman?

The mailman, you know, the one with the really big dick?

 

[Old Dog]

The mailman, you know, the one with the really big dick?

Something does happen with the mailman but no idea what it could be

 

[Hlextor]

Is it a pressure from some here to have a sex scene between mother and son?

It is the pressure of many of us player and Patreons. And of course. It’s a porngame, also with incest parts including sis and daughter. So why not also her son?

 

[Catherine1972]

It is the pressure of many of us player and Patreons. And of course. It’s a porngame, also with incest parts including sis and daughter. So why not also her son?

L&P always said that he wrote his entire story long before he started rendering, that he knew exactly who his characters were and how they were going to evolve.
If I understand you correctly, you say that L&P is modifying, or likely to modify its line of conduct to please or meet requirements ?
I'm not talking about the content of the modifications here (this is another debate depending on individual preferences), I am asking the question in general.

 

[Old Dog]

It is the pressure of many of us player and Patreons. And of course. It’s a porngame, also with incest parts including sis and daughter. So why not also her son?

I don't know if it is the pressure of us players or patrons or L&P planned it this way,we may never know.
Dylan had a big event and now Sam will have one as well(concert) they are two important characters after all.
Ellie is also an important character but certain events of hers have been glanced over with just a sentence or two,the same could be said for Julia as well and I feel that this is unbalanced ,my opinion.

 

[Old Dog]

L&P always said that he wrote his entire story long before he started rendering, that he knew exactly who his characters were and how they were going to evolve.
If I understand you correctly, you say that L&P is modifying, or likely to modify its line of conduct to please or meet requirements ?
I'm not talking about the content of the modifications here (this is another debate depending on individual preferences), I am asking the question in general.

L&P does modify the story,look at the Bennett event,he cut that short with no explanation given.
He took the "twist" out.
Coach Sophia was also dropped.

 

[Catherine1972]

L&P does modify the story,look at the Bennett event,he cut that short with no explanation given.
He took the "twist" out.
Coach Sophia was dropped

We will never know why these cuts, pressure or choice of the author ...

 

[dorito-kun]

Does anyone know if the update is out?
And if a hero without a cape has compressed it (the update)
Thanks.

 

[Julius Ash]

has she had sex with anyone besides her husband?

Yes, with aliens...

 

[xxxorro]

We will never know why these cuts, pressure or choice of the author ...

When the game will be over, I guess he can write a tell-all book with all these details.
It will be interesting to know how was the story conceived at the beginning, what and why he changed some parts, his struggles with the development and so many other things that we ignore.

But no renderings in the book and no release per chapter.

 

[Old Dog]

It is the pressure of many of us player and Patreons. And of course. It’s a porngame, also with incest parts including sis and daughter. So why not also her son?

I have no problem with the son trying to seduce his mother but it is the manner that he goes about trying to seduce her that annoys me the most.

 

[Scarlet56]

I have no problem with the son trying to seduce his mother but it is the manner that he goes about trying to seduce her that annoys me the most.

What bothers me is that Sophia's mentality no longer matches.
She's 38 damn it!
The way it was done, it makes Sophia stupid.

 

[Catherine1972]

When the game will be over, I guess he can write a tell-all book with all these details.
It will be interesting to know how was the story conceived at the beginning, what and why he changed some parts, his struggles with the development and so many other things that we ignore.

But no renderings in the book and no release per chapter.

Personally, I would find that very interesting and constructive. The genesis of Sophia and her inner struggles, how L&P was able to take the pro and con point of view every time.

But maybe we should warn some that this would not be an update ...

 

[Old Dog]

What bothers me is that Sophia's mentality no longer matches.
She's 38 damn it!
The way it was done, it makes Sophia stupid.

I agree that certain choices made by Sophia do make her look very nieve.
She will wear a two piece bikini(back yard,anybody can see her)with her daughter but not with her son.She also wears very short dresses,how the hell do you hide anything in a dress that short?
For a woman who does not like stares off men and is very conservative in her dress sense this seems like a contradiction to me.
Or is this just a male thing

 

[xxxorro]

What bothers me is that Sophia's mentality no longer matches.
She's 38 damn it!
The way it was done, it makes Sophia stupid.

Age does not matter, in real life it happens more often than you might think that people even older than that have a regression to their adolescence (adulescent as Catherine1972 said) and they can act embarrassingly irrational, even more than Sophia.
I think we already discussed about what (could have) triggered her behaviour, like the pre-mature wedding and the need of "growing up" to care about the family and children, missing out other experiences, the lack of attention from the husband etc..
We can discuss if in the game her behaviour changes too suddenly or it is confusing at time, but in general and personally I don't find it "unbelievable"

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report. 90% - 90%.

 

[Old Dog]

Age does not matter, in real life it happens more often than you might think that people even older than that have a regression to their adolescence (adulescent as Catherine1972 said) and they can act embarrassingly irrational, even more than Sophia.
I think we already discussed about what (could have) triggered her behaviour, like the pre-mature wedding and the need of "growing up" to care about the family and children, missing out other experiences, the lack of attention from the husband etc..
We can discuss if in the game her behaviour changes too suddenly or it is confusing at time, but in general and personally I don't find it "unbelievable"

We have discussed it before and since the dev has no intention of showing us what happened to Sophia after the birth of Ellie we can only speculate.
Sophia will have more flashbacks though and I do think that her dress sense is all over the place.