VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[t3alqdansam]

That last comment from 'Fan of Milf Comics' Might get Aiden killed by Patricia.
I prefer that over Dylan's suggestion of completely redoing the scene. This is how his mind works making for further delays.
I would seriously hope that if it were up to a vote, a surprise Aiden and Patricia meeting in a dark ally would be the choice.

Personally, I hate the Bribery/extortion path=Bullies to me. They can all meet Patricia and her Desert Eagle.

I understand for the game to be successful it must have some options/paths for all preferences. That is the the hard part. How to create something that can lead down the different paths to tag as many 'preferences' as reasonable. It must also stay close to who the characters are. Radical changes in personalities will fail by alienating the players/patrons. Could you see Bennett dropping his incredible narcissism to suddenly freely fix Dylan's grade, become a champion of doing things right, wooing Sophia the old fashioned way from loser Liam, and riding off into the sunset with her beside him on the buckboard. Not in a million years. The world revolves around him. It is not believable in his character. The same is true of the other bullies. There characters are essentially immutable. They can get different edges but, they have established their cores.

If Sophia wanders down the 'screw everything in sight' path then other players/patrons are alienated and he deviates from the precept of his production 'Games with class' style.

This is not an easy needle to thread. I have no idea how detailed his outline /plan was at the start. If, what some suggest is true, that he made major changes based on criticisms this may be fouling the future plans and we will be chasing the rabbits from here on out. I hope this is not the case. I like Killjoys point there is still lots of room for additions/changes. They just need to keep the established personalities in consideration.

 

[Cold brew]

Personally, I hate the Bribery/extortion path=Bullies to me. They can all meet Patricia and her Desert Eagle.

I understand for the game to be successful it must have some options/paths for all preferences. That is the the hard part. How to create something that can lead down the different paths to tag as many 'preferences' as reasonable. It must also stay close to who the characters are. Radical changes in personalities will fail by alienating the players/patrons. Could you see Bennett dropping his incredible narcissism to suddenly freely fix Dylan's grade, become a champion of doing things right, wooing Sophia the old fashioned way from loser Liam, and riding off into the sunset with her beside him on the buckboard. Not in a million years. The world revolves around him. It is not believable in his character. The same is true of the other bullies. There characters are essentially immutable. They can get different edges but, they have established their cores.

If Sophia wanders down the 'screw everything in sight' path then other players/patrons are alienated and he deviates from the precept of his production 'Games with class' style.

This is not an easy needle to thread. I have no idea how detailed his outline /plan was at the start. If, what some suggest is true, that he made major changes based on criticisms this may be fouling the future plans and we will be chasing the rabbits from here on out. I hope this is not the case. I like Killjoys point there is still lots of room for additions/changes. They just need to keep the established personalities in consideration.

You make very good points here. To be serious, whether or not we like things and that conflict it stirs make great stories. Characters being true to who they are critical. That is all part of our enjoyment in discovery. L&P is in the drivers seat here. No author should Blow up the credibility of a story/character from public pressure. That would be a rookie move escaping the true work that should have been done in development. It would be doing everything backwards. It would be doomed to failure. An artists true agony is in the constant battles within for their own self improvement and discovery. In music no great blues artist went through life full of complete happiness... quite the opposite. We have to give that space to L&P. We are entitled to our opinions and he is entitled to his art. He owns that space.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I read the comments and see that I'm not the only one thinking about a possible change in the image of some characters.

It is for this reason that I asked L&P a question, but he has not answered yet.

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The Sofia-Aiden event in this upcoming update is huge as far as we know. If it is not accompanied by erotic scenes, let alone passionate scenes, it will disappoint many.
Perhaps we are mistaken and in this update we will not have a change in the image of Aiden, this is just the influence of a long wait. But there is something in this! The question is what?
What is the surprise from L&P, is it some interesting twist in the game, or is it new circumstances of erotic content that will move Sofia further?

the surprise is that sophia will discover that after all, aiden is a romantic,
and nothing will happen but a kiss on the cheek
reduce your expectations, many will be disappointed

 

[SubtleHustle]

Maybe in the year 2030, if I'm being optimistic!

This game is a great example of an Indian TV serial, just keep on stretching the show and let the money roll in, because no matter how much you stretch, people would still watch the show with the expectation of some twist at the end.

I'm reminded of the long drawn out episodes of dragon ball Z before the Freeza fight... Weeks of episodes before anything ever happens, just dialog and powering up.

 

[nexer]

It will turn out that Aiden is actually gey. Then Sophia will hook him up with Dylan the motherfucker

Hey, Dylan the motherfucker - gay?? Isn't logical, rephrase it

 

[Scarlet56]

I'm reminded of the long drawn out episodes of dragon ball Z before the Freeza fight... Weeks of episodes before anything ever happens, just dialog and powering up.

Or those fucking 5 minutes before the planet exploded that last an incredible number of episodes

 

[Old Dog]

I personally don't see Sophia screwing every character in the game,she may have close encounters with them,like she had with Tyler, but not full sex.

 

[Old Dog]

I read the comments and see that I'm not the only one thinking about a possible change in the image of some characters.

It is for this reason that I asked L&P a question, but he has not answered yet.

View attachment 1184129
The Sofia-Aiden event in this upcoming update is huge as far as we know. If it is not accompanied by erotic scenes, let alone passionate scenes, it will disappoint many.
Perhaps we are mistaken and in this update we will not have a change in the image of Aiden, this is just the influence of a long wait. But there is something in this! The question is what?
What is the surprise from L&P, is it some interesting twist in the game, or is it new circumstances of erotic content that will move Sofia further?

Almost nothing is known about this update besides some touching and a massage from somebody, probably Dylan but who knows it could be from Aiden.
Maybe Aiden will take Sophia to a topless bar or a strip joint and enjoy her embarrassment, there will be erotic moments,but what L&P sees as erotic you may not.
The Aiden event has been hyped up massively but I don't really expect that much from it maybe some cleavage flashing/posing,kind of like he prison visit.
Dylan event maybe a massage but the has built this up way too much and I also don't see why he cannot post a teaser.

 

[hzjujk]

Almost nothing is known about this update besides some touching and a massage from somebody, probably Dylan but who knows it could be from Aiden.
Maybe Aiden will take Sophia to a topless bar or a strip joint and enjoy her embarrassment, there will be erotic moments,but what L&P sees as erotic you may not.
The Aiden event has been hyped up massively but I don't really expect that much from it maybe some cleavage flashing/posing,kind of like he prison visit.
Dylan event maybe a massage but he has built this up way too much and I also don't see why he cannot post a teaser.

Aiden can ask Sophia to serve as a nude model for an artist class - the motif: "A nymph taking a bath". If she wants to refuse his assignment, he can convince her that this time nobody knows her, that she as a woman who is well versed in art does not need to see the whole thing as a pornographic event and that she can earn money with it. If Aiden is also smart, he does not take part in the event at all, but asks Sophia to draw one of the artist's sketches. Sophia can even choose which drawing it should be. Sohia could not only enjoy this event but would even feel flattered. That would give her the feeling that Aiden's tasks would also be handled by her in the future.
And we would be able to admire a completely naked Sophia, bathed in sunbeams.

 

[hzjujk]

A teaser? Here is the new Sophia / Bennett teaser. My favourite picture!

 

[t3alqdansam]

Almost nothing is known about this update besides some touching and a massage from somebody, probably Dylan but who knows it could be from Aiden.
Maybe Aiden will take Sophia to a topless bar or a strip joint and enjoy her embarrassment, there will be erotic moments,but what L&P sees as erotic you may not.
The Aiden event has been hyped up massively but I don't really expect that much from it maybe some cleavage flashing/posing,kind of like he prison visit.
Dylan event maybe a massage but he has built this up way too much and I also don't see why he cannot post a teaser.

As much as teasers are desired from the community I prefer the unknown. I want to be a bit surprised to see where he takes things. As long as it is not the ' Joe bag of donuts character is really not who he represented so, SURPRISE'. This also allows for GREATER speculation. Which has spawned over 2900 pages of chatter so far with teasers. LOL! Oh, that may not be a good thing.

 

[Old Dog]

Aiden can ask Sophia to serve as a nude model for an artist class - the motif: "A nymph taking a bath". If she wants to refuse his assignment, he can convince her that this time nobody knows her, that she as a woman who is well versed in art does not need to see the whole thing as a pornographic event and that she can earn money with it. If Aiden is also smart, he does not take part in the event at all, but asks Sophia to draw one of the artist's sketches. Sophia can even choose which drawing it should be. Sohia could not only enjoy this event but would even feel flattered. That would give her the feeling that Aiden's tasks would also be handled by her in the future.
And we would be able to admire a completely naked Sophia, bathed in sunbeams.

Nice idea as Sophia has mentioned how much she likes the arts.classical painting/music/opera ect.
The one sticking point for me is the outfit that Sophia is wearing can you imagine undressing/dressing while wearing those leathers?
I do like your idea though

 

[t3alqdansam]

Aiden can ask Sophia to serve as a nude model for an artist class - the motif: "A nymph taking a bath". If she wants to refuse his assignment, he can convince her that this time nobody knows her, that she as a woman who is well versed in art does not need to see the whole thing as a pornographic event and that she can earn money with it. If Aiden is also smart, he does not take part in the event at all, but asks Sophia to draw one of the artist's sketches. Sophia can even choose which drawing it should be. Sohia could not only enjoy this event but would even feel flattered. That would give her the feeling that Aiden's tasks would also be handled by her in the future.
And we would be able to admire a completely naked Sophia, bathed in sunbeams.

OK, I take it all back. I want him to be influenced!

 

[Old Dog]

As much as teasers are desired from the community I prefer the unknown. I want to be a bit surprised to see where he takes things. As long as it is not the ' Joe bag of donuts character is really not who he represented so, SURPRISE'. This also allows for GREATER speculation. Which has spawned over 2900 pages of chatter so far with teasers. LOL! Oh, that may not be a good thing.

The first teaser for the shower scene showed Ellie and Sophia watching television then it moved on to the actual shower scene.
So most of the teasers do not give a lot away

 

[Old Dog]

OK, I take it all back. I want him to be influenced!

No you can't as I now have a screen shot of your post.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Almost nothing is known about this update besides some touching and a massage from somebody, probably Dylan but who knows it could be from Aiden.
Maybe Aiden will take Sophia to a topless bar or a strip joint and enjoy her embarrassment, there will be erotic moments,but what L&P sees as erotic you may not.
The Aiden event has been hyped up massively but I don't really expect that much from it maybe some cleavage flashing/posing,kind of like he prison visit.
Dylan event maybe a massage but he has built this up way too much and I also don't see why he cannot post a teaser.

That's a good question. He didn't post a teaser for the hot tub/mall event, but he posted a teaser of the bikini event the following update. I don't get it.

 

[Hlextor]

I read the comments and see that I'm not the only one thinking about a possible change in the image of some characters.

It is for this reason that I asked L&P a question, but he has not answered yet.

View attachment 1184129
The Sofia-Aiden event in this upcoming update is huge as far as we know. If it is not accompanied by erotic scenes, let alone passionate scenes, it will disappoint many.
Perhaps we are mistaken and in this update we will not have a change in the image of Aiden, this is just the influence of a long wait. But there is something in this! The question is what?
What is the surprise from L&P, is it some interesting twist in the game, or is it new circumstances of erotic content that will move Sofia further?

He describes it as unexpected. So what do we expect? We expect a task that is demanded by Aiden. So a step up from the second task. Possibly a striptease from Sophia... Unexpected is when Sophia takes the 3rd task in hand and makes suggestions to Aiden?! A Bj/Hj to end the blackmailing prematurely. Or what about Alyssa? Couldn't she be part of the 3rd Task as well?

 

[Old Dog]

He describes it as unexpected. So what do we expect? We expect a task that is demanded by Aiden. So a step up from the second task. Possibly a striptease from Sophia... Unexpected is when Sophia takes the 3rd task in hand and makes suggestions to Aiden?! A Bj/Hj to end the blackmailing prematurely. Or what about Amber? Couldn't she be part of the 3rd Task as well?

He describes it as unexpected so that could mean anything from the place they are going to or the task that has to be done,the scope is just too wide with a statement like this.
A striptease in those leathers!
Amber I don't see it but mrs.torres maybe,reaching I know.
Maybe Sophia will take charge of the bike and Aiden will hug her

 

[Hlextor]

He describes it as unexpected so that could mean anything from the place they are going to or the task that has to be done,the scope is just too wide with a statement like this.
A striptease in those leathers!
Amber I don't see it but mrs.torres maybe,reaching I know.
Maybe Sophia will take charge of the bike and Aiden will hug her

Yeah I know all in all only speculation. It’s no use. Who is Mrs Torres?

 

[t3alqdansam]

He describes it as unexpected so that could mean anything from the place they are going to or the task that has to be done,the scope is just too wide with a statement like this.
A striptease in those leathers!
Amber I don't see it but mrs.torres maybe,reaching I know.
Maybe Sophia will take charge of the bike and Aiden will hug her

If it is Aiden, and if it is focused on his extortion, then it is Sophia and Alyssa because it is Dylan and Zac. We should all remain calm please . Everyone take a deep breath. Let it out slowly. This is one we will need to see play out.

Maybe they will get to their destination. They get off the bike, Sophia removes the helmet into Aiden's face and drives off to post the bike on Craigslist or Ebay.