Talcum Powder

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L&P, if I remember correctly, has said he works bit by bit so no surprise there. And, as translation is relatively quick it can easily be done at CS/RS end while he is doing PS edits. I see no problem here.

One of the greatest movies of all time, IMO, Casablanca had major script revisions daily.
Casablanca is not, IMO, anywhere near one of the greatest movies of all time, but I do love that movie and it is very enjoyable. The script and direction are first rate to be sure.

But let's not lose perspective here, Casablanca was a fully backed major studio production starring Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bergman (both mega stars at the time) and directed by Michael Curtiz who had four Oscar nominations for Best Director before winning it for Casablanca.

Let's also keep in mind that script edits probably involved more specifically the changes in wording and phrasing of scenes that were already planned. I doubt very seriously any of these rewrites required the production to double the length of scenes and add in dozens of new camera angles, never mind moving the ending scene from an airfield at night to the Moroccan coast at sunset where a yacht is waiting to whisk them away.
 

Talcum Powder

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L&P, if I remember correctly, has said he works bit by bit so no surprise there. And, as translation is relatively quick it can easily be done at CS/RS end while he is doing PS edits. I see no problem here.
You don't see a problem because you didn't read what L&P actually said:
... the market is full of English native speakers who can write and talk on college level and can also perfectly speak German with all its phrasing, and moreover have always dreamed about helping to translate a porn game with some "precarious topics" ... who can manage to be continuously available for around 2 weeks for a 10 hours live chat, day by day! It's just that there are so many of them that I can't pick out one, you know?
 

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You don't see a problem because you didn't read what L&P actually said:
Fine. My point, though not eloquently rendered, was that he can do it all in German to the end of his CS/RS sequence. Then he can turn his finished product over for translation. He may not desire to do this but it is one path. It would save him some time, but may not give him the control he desires. He may have a reason he wants to see the translation as it goes along. I don't know what his preference is. I am just saying it is an option.
 
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If you're one of the few ones making it into the Citadel in 2030, maybe. L&P has to get into the citadel too though.
I am suffering blue ball for waiting our dear Sophia. Just a masturbation is enough before I get too old LOL. My eyes are 200% wider at Club event. I guessed those guys at club gonna have some a little bit more of foreplay. But nothing... nothing really happened!! Gosh Sophia is so expensive and way out of my league if she were a real person.
 

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Fine. My point, though not eloquently rendered, was that he can do it all in German to the end of his CS/RS sequence. Then he can turn his finished product over for translation. He may not desire to do this but it is one path. It would save him some time, but may not give him the control he desires. He may have a reason he wants to see the translation as it goes along. I don't know what his preference is. I am just saying it is an option.
I hear you, But I think we can safely chalk this one up as another firm and hard “no” from the dev.

L&P has a reason for everything and doesn’t seem at all concerned that so many of his reasons sound so unreasonable.
 

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I hear you, But I think we can safely chalk this one up as another firm and hard “no” from the dev.

L&P has a reason for everything and doesn’t seem at all concerned that so many of his reasons sound so unreasonable.
It is not even a reason if all one can say is it won't work for me, or good that it worked for someone else.
 

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1. Avoids the fundamental question about this VN only ending in 2045 at this current pace.

2nd question: yeah DPC doesn't pay any attention to details, he doesn't even render anything, just puts it on "texture shaded view" on the viewport and takes a screenshot. :rolleyes: Seriously: your render quality is higher than dpc (in terms of lights and details on the environment) but it doesn't justify a 4x less output with 0 animations in more time if you work as much time as you say you do. I'd assume good practices of development would be something you'd be interested in, you know.. being a perfectionist and everything. A while ago DPC went through some changes in the way he approached animations, that brought him to ramp up the development and produce more animations in the same amount of time because thats what happens when you increase the quality of your hardware, improve your workflow etc, your workhours become more productive, not less, as we've seen here.

3rd question: no answer on why every plan of yours just slips away weeks if not more, because it's simple and noticeable that is lack of planning. It's pretty common sense right now that you approach each event with a vague idea in mind of what's going to happen and dialogue and then you go from there trying stuff out as you go.

4. As for the translator, again, maybe you misunderstood. You had a professional German -> English (and the other way around) translator offering you help. You didn't even answer him and then come here saying its hard to get a translator ok with it being a porn game etc etc which for me was weird because I knew you had someone offering you help.

Picking up on your argument:
A German who learned english in school is just "another you" so not good enough to help.
A native english who learned German in school doesn't know german slang so he wont be able to help also.
What exactly are the credentials to be able to help you? Maybe none. And apparently it's like this on all areas, from rendering, to post processing, programming and text. No one has the credentials to help L&P.

I'm a big fan of the quality of your renders but not a fan of the way you work (to each his own though). But I think it's just detrimental not only for people who support you and get 2 (and soon 1) update a year but also for yourself, you aren't as productive as you could be and that reflects in the times you push an update and the money you get from patron. In the end, doesn't matter, it's your game and your development, you make the call, we're just here discussing it.

I do appreciate you taking the time to answer.
You are lost in a stupid battle comparing games. The unique cuestion is the game takes 30 days. At the actual rythm, with 3 updates per day, then rest 55 updates (one of the playable day 12, and 54 of the 18 days rest). If takes 5 months per update, then the 55 updates will take 275 months. Thats means 22 years and 11 months until the end game. Simply ridicolous
 

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You are lost in a stupid battle comparing games. The unique cuestion is the game takes 30 days. At the actual rythm, with 3 updates per day, then rest 55 updates (one of the playable day 12, and 54 of the 18 days rest). If takes 5 months per update, then the 55 updates will take 275 months. Thats means 22 years and 11 months until the end game. Simply ridicolous
The full development time to complete 30 days is well known and has been discussed at length, bringing that up again is less than helpful.

Comparing games is just one approach among many in an uncoordinated but all-hands-on-deck effort to raise the developer's awareness that there is a desire for change, a genuine want to be helpful, and a lot of disappointment at the repeated rebuffing of every effort to be constructive.

It is not a battle and I don't think it's fair to call it stupid. Futile? Sure, but not stupid.
 
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