VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

Ok as someone who knows nothing about DAZ, with the "create scenes" part of the update.

The rooms are set up, I mean he has the rooms setup and hopefully saved somewhere. or does it also include the postioning of the characters, hence setup? and is then rendering just going obviously hand and hand with that?

I mean the example might be in the updates from now (so 2 years) she'll be back at the 2nd job, and that room and everyones general positions can effectively be reused to an extent?

Or is there something else involved with create scenes Im missing?

I mean for a dev that's working 11 hours a day by his own words....wouldn't you think alot of the work is done in these scenes on the first time you put together the assets? IE if you're reusing rooms most of the time, and characters are just talking...?

Again I don't want to sound like Im dumbing this down... it just seems Im missing something if this guy says he works 11 hours a day on the project, and it seems a lot of the "setup" is done.

Creating scenes will include creating locations, positioning of characters but also things like running simulations for clothing so that they drape more realistically. I hear the clothing Sophia wears during the art class is a hassle to work with, which is perhaps one reason why the Aiden event took so long to create.

What can really take a lot of time is running those simulations for clothing that isn't designed to. For example during the Yoga event, most of the clothes the girls wear isn't. So L&P would have spent time working out what clothes he can make drape the way he envisions.

What will also take time that L&P appears to enjoy is customising textures. For example DAZ assets don't come with fashion labels, so for the Nike label on Sophia's exercise outfit during the Sophia/Dylan outfit (for example), he would have needed to find a Nike logo, modify it in Photoshop so he could overlay it onto the normal texture, then do a few test renders to make sure it was positioned the way he likes it.

 

[PCPrincipalBro]

This has to be without a doubt the biggest blue balls simulator on this whole site.

I thought DMD was bad but jeez. I played the whole game and there's maybe 2 or 3 sex scenes?

 

[Alley_Cat]

This has to be without a doubt the biggest blue balls simulator on this whole site.

I thought DMD was bad but jeez. I played the whole game and there's maybe 2 or 3 sex scenes?

I count 6 sex scenes, but that includes 4 with Liam.

 

[t3alqdansam]

hehe thanks for reply bro but i didnt get what u mean honestly ..maybe if u can explane more pls ?

Simple. The only complete intimate moments have been with the husband. All other paths have been touchy at best. This is after 4 years of product. Hmmmm.......... . So if you are after a porn game this is all about the Heinz Ketchup "ANTICIPATION". You never get to put it on the burger.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Strange times.

L&P is handling the censure of this teaser a lot better than he did the last one, the last one was only posted at the top tier, and stated Don't share this teaser to anyone outside Patreon or there'll be no teasers ever again (paraphrasing).
For a few days no Patrons shared the teaser, People here asked - they said No.
People here asked if he (L&P) told them to not share it - Patrons said Yes, he did.
Then people here asked what, exactly, L&P said - Patrons shared the gist of the message.

I think that's when it changed.
Because L&P was no longer making a polite request, he made a threat, and as the law of the Internet goes - the harder you tell them not to do something, the harder some asshole is gonna to want to do it.
So the Teaser was posted, blurred at first but eventually the whole thing uncensored... and it was largely the same sanitised, PG, Nothing of an image they all are (don't get me wrong the render looked great, but it was hardly a massive spoiler or likely to get people hot under the collar)

Then there were all the issues around the day of release and downloads from the AWAM website not working - I avoided the thread for the rest of the week after that so I don't really know if any of it was discussed. It was like watching a room full of angry toddlers, people were scream-typing angry messages; demanding the update be leaked, making threats at patrons and the Dev.
The longer it took a leak to appear the more noobs from this forum would cave in, go pledge at the top Patreon tier, download the (censored) game, play it, realize content was missing, come back here to complain, veterans would explain the difference between DOL & AWAM and somehow the noobs would just get even angrier.

I saw half a dozen posts from people, incensed that they had pledged last minute and still had to wait to get the real game, talking about going back to patreon and reporting L&P to Patreon admins, how they'd explain in detail exactly what L&P was doing to circumvent Patreon's rules.
Side-bar for any current Patrons, has L&P discussed any of this, how he feels about the whole thing?

Now here we are, L&P seems to have developed some animosity towards the non-patrons on this forum and I really can't blame him after all the chaos.
It's just so strange how the community around this game seems to get more toxic the longer we go, and I am including the people who cry 'YoU sAiD tHe GaMe WaS rEaLiStIc' every time L&P takes a little bit of creative license.

Everyone, from L&P himself to us as posters, have contributed towards making this thread absolutely toxic. While no one can read every thread, of all the threads I read/watch none come anywhere close to the toxicity of this thread. Take the Jessica O'neil Hard News thread, there are some frustrated people over there but nothing has devolved to AWAM levels. STOPER (the dev) seems like a legit good guy who is simply in over his head, but he has avoided being a dick and the posters seem to like him in return...even if they're frustrated. Contrast that to this thread where there is a good level of mutual contempt between L&P and many members of this thread. While I haven't been here very long, I've never seen a thread with such animosity between the developer and the posters.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Here's a little quote from DrPinkCake's Patreon page...

"I'm working full-time on the game and my PCs are rendering images 24/7.
I promise to keep patrons updated on the progress, but I cannot give accurate estimates until an update almost is ready for release. Something to bear in mind is that I'm doing this all by myself. There's no team of developers, it's just me.

I'm creating the art and animations, writing the dialogue, programming the game, finding music with correct licenses, managing the patreon page and packaging/uploading the game.

I love to do this, but please understand that it's a huge amount of work for a single person."

With that in mind, yes, I think we CAN compare these two developers. Just that one of them is actually putting in the work while the other is slacking. Take a guess which of the two actually puts in 11 hours of work a day, and which one is just making things up.

OK - my mistake - I must have confused DrPinkCake with another dev.

But it does sound as if DrPinkCake is working on BaDiK full time, whereas from memory I thought L&P was studying full time.
But as my memory has already been shown to be suspect, then someone else would be better confirming that.

 

[Ninja of Death]

Blow job scenes really don't cut it. And the very idea of an "adult game" with no sex is absurd. Was at least 2 years for even sex with husband. This isn't slow burn, it's glacial burn or no burn. If he's going to get hostile for any criticism he's a twunt. A good dev listens to people, ESPECIALLY patrons within reason. He could cut back on the renders - he certainly doesn't need like 4 renders every time she walks through a door. And cut back on that damn internal dialogue! You could get a book the size of War and Peace just from the internal dialogue so far. This game needs a black box warning on lack of sexual content. Who cares about the quality of renders if there are no good scenes? Most people seeing it wanted to play it as making her a total hobag. Wonder how many patrons left? Not even blueball at this point more like blackballs that have to be amputated due to the cum backup. This game must be directed towards frigid 80 year old women.
Though fans seem to be like a cult. He could be posting for like 3 years images of himself dancing around in his underwear and they'd still love it and hate on anyone who dared criticize.

 

[Ninja of Death]

OK - my mistake - I must have confused DrPinkCake with another dev.

But it does sound as if DrPinkCake is working on BaDiK full time, whereas from memory I thought L&P was studying full time.
But as my memory has already been shown to be suspect, then someone else would be better confirming that.

TBH BaDIK sucks. Insanely difficult and free roams near the end impossible even with a walkthrough. Have to do stuff outside the screens like on phone and other nonsense.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

Blow job scenes really don't cut it. And the very idea of an "adult game" with no sex is absurd. Was at least 2 years for even sex with husband. This isn't slow burn, it's glacial burn or no burn. If he's going to get hostile for any criticism he's a twunt. A good dev listens to people, ESPECIALLY patrons within reason. He could cut back on the renders - he certainly doesn't need like 4 renders every time she walks through a door. And cut back on that damn internal dialogue! You could get a book the size of War and Peace just from the internal dialogue so far. This game needs a black box warning on lack of sexual content. Who cares about the quality of renders if there are no good scenes? Most people seeing it wanted to play it as making her a total hobag. Wonder how many patrons left? Not even blueball at this point more like blackballs that have to be amputated due to the cum backup. This game must be directed towards frigid 80 year old women.
Though fans seem to be like a cult. He could be posting for like 3 years images of himself dancing around in his underwear and they'd still love it and hate on anyone who dared criticize.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Blow job scenes really don't cut it. And the very idea of an "adult game" with no sex is absurd. Was at least 2 years for even sex with husband. This isn't slow burn, it's glacial burn or no burn. If he's going to get hostile for any criticism he's a twunt. A good dev listens to people, ESPECIALLY patrons within reason. He could cut back on the renders - he certainly doesn't need like 4 renders every time she walks through a door. And cut back on that damn internal dialogue! You could get a book the size of War and Peace just from the internal dialogue so far. This game needs a black box warning on lack of sexual content. Who cares about the quality of renders if there are no good scenes? Most people seeing it wanted to play it as making her a total hobag. Wonder how many patrons left? Not even blueball at this point more like blackballs that have to be amputated due to the cum backup. This game must be directed towards frigid 80 year old women.
Though fans seem to be like a cult. He could be posting for like 3 years images of himself dancing around in his underwear and they'd still love it and hate on anyone who dared criticize.

Hey, someone else using the term "glacial burn". But to say there are "no good scenes" is rather harsh. I think it actually says a great deal that Ellie has now had four shower scenes with Sophia and I'm still looking forward to the next one. And while it wasn't the MC, we still got to watch a woman jill herself off. I'm just hoping next time it's Sophia. And I think the Ellie/Julia event is one of the hottest (and sweetest) in the game so far.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

TBH BaDIK sucks. Insanely difficult and free roams near the end impossible even with a walkthrough. Have to do stuff outside the screens like on phone and other nonsense.

There is nothing"insanely difficult" about BaDIK. The only way it's difficult is if you aren't reading. "Insanely difficult" is something like advanced rocket science, not struggling through a free roam in a porn game because you didn't read the story.

Edit- To keep this post on topic I'll just add that at this point everyone who plays AWAM should know what they're getting into. The frustration over the lack of sex after 4 years of development is invalid because even a cursory understanding of the game should make it clear. If you go into this game blind, expecting sex quickly, then that's on the player. With all the information at our finger tips it's important for us to educate ourselves about the games we play before we play them.

 

[palmtrees89]

OK - my mistake - I must have confused DrPinkCake with another dev.

But it does sound as if DrPinkCake is working on BaDiK full time, whereas from memory I thought L&P was studying full time.
But as my memory has already been shown to be suspect, then someone else would be better confirming that.

Another quote, this time from L&P's Patreon page.

"If this high goal is really achieved someday:
I cancel all my college courses and devote all my time to my passion of (adult) game development!
I'll give my hardware a massive "face-lift", primarily to render faster and switch from 720p to 1080p quality!"

L&P's final patron goal, achieved a long time ago. Both of which would indicate a faster update progression, but instead they slowed down the development even further. L&P had also claimed to be working on the game for 11 hours a day before. All the previous goals also indicate a faster progression but it has become slower with every new update.

Edit: Yet another quote from August 2020 before 0.100 was being released: "Next update 0.100 will contain around 1300 renders and 45 MS Word pages of translated text! For this it will take 5 months."

L&P was moving into a new apartment at the time, had less patron goals achieved and less experience in editing and programming stuff. How does that add up compared to the current situation?

Again, I do love the game for what it is and I've been a patron for ~18 months until 0.130 was released. Most of my posts here have been on the negative side and I wish that wasn't the case, but there is simply nothing good left I could say about what's going on for quite a while now, except for the content we already have. It just seems to me that all the money I and others had invested into this project is slowly turning into nothingness. I'm not trying to hate, It's more that I'm sad how everything turned out to be.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Blow job scenes really don't cut it. And the very idea of an "adult game" with no sex is absurd. Was at least 2 years for even sex with husband. This isn't slow burn, it's glacial burn or no burn. If he's going to get hostile for any criticism he's a twunt. A good dev listens to people, ESPECIALLY patrons within reason. He could cut back on the renders - he certainly doesn't need like 4 renders every time she walks through a door. And cut back on that damn internal dialogue! You could get a book the size of War and Peace just from the internal dialogue so far. This game needs a black box warning on lack of sexual content. Who cares about the quality of renders if there are no good scenes? Most people seeing it wanted to play it as making her a total hobag. Wonder how many patrons left? Not even blueball at this point more like blackballs that have to be amputated due to the cum backup. This game must be directed towards frigid 80 year old women.
Though fans seem to be like a cult. He could be posting for like 3 years images of himself dancing around in his underwear and they'd still love it and hate on anyone who dared criticize.

You are full of opinions are nt you?

Some of them may be correct - I have said before that I wanted L&P to learn proper Project Management, to cut down on some unnecessary renders and not try for perfection in EVERY render )not every render needs to be Michaelangelo painting the Sistine Chapel).

Some of them are wrong. It was nt two years for sex with husband - they had sex when they had just arrived in San Alejo.
And his number of Patreons tends to up dramatically just before/just after each update before slowly coming back down to similar levels as previous. Now I personally would nt give L&P any money given his slow update speed but many Patreon's do - they are clearly happy with his updates otherwise he would have a fall in Patreon's.

If you don't enjoy this erotic VN, then I am sure you can find many other games more to your taste....

 

[hamod]

If what you are interested in is what "females that u can bang", then this may not be your taste in VN / games.
I am sure you can find many games where you can "bang" pixelated characters to your heart's content!

yep i get that late ..its a female mc didnt know that earlier ..canot bang any one in this game ..only get banged

 

[ShawnLee95Gamer]

Blow job scenes really don't cut it. And the very idea of an "adult game" with no sex is absurd. Was at least 2 years for even sex with husband. This isn't slow burn, it's glacial burn or no burn. If he's going to get hostile for any criticism he's a twunt. A good dev listens to people, ESPECIALLY patrons within reason. He could cut back on the renders - he certainly doesn't need like 4 renders every time she walks through a door. And cut back on that damn internal dialogue! You could get a book the size of War and Peace just from the internal dialogue so far. This game needs a black box warning on lack of sexual content. Who cares about the quality of renders if there are no good scenes? Most people seeing it wanted to play it as making her a total hobag. Wonder how many patrons left? Not even blueball at this point more like blackballs that have to be amputated due to the cum backup. This game must be directed towards frigid 80 year old women.
Though fans seem to be like a cult. He could be posting for like 3 years images of himself dancing around in his underwear and they'd still love it and hate on anyone who dared criticize.

Maybe u like to try making a better game yourself or go critize a different game?

 

[detleff]

next update january 2022..

 

[seami18]

Please Any one give me the update link or please tell from which website this is updated ?
(I just download the 5.20gb File)

 

[palmtrees89]

Please Any one give me the update link or please tell from which website this is updated ?
(I just download the 5.20gb File)

5.2gb sounds about right. Should be the current version 0.130. No further updates available yet. New updates etc can be found on the first page in this thread.

 

[Bane71]

Here's a little quote from DrPinkCake's Patreon page...

"I'm working full-time on the game and my PCs are rendering images 24/7.
I promise to keep patrons updated on the progress, but I cannot give accurate estimates until an update almost is ready for release. Something to bear in mind is that I'm doing this all by myself. There's no team of developers, it's just me.

I'm creating the art and animations, writing the dialogue, programming the game, finding music with correct licenses, managing the patreon page and packaging/uploading the game.

I love to do this, but please understand that it's a huge amount of work for a single person."

With that in mind, yes, I think we CAN compare these two developers. Just that one of them is actually putting in the work while the other is slacking. Take a guess which of the two actually puts in 11 hours of work a day, and which one is just making things up.

That is, it doesn't occur to you that two different people work in different ways? You have only one simple thought, another developer is cheating and there can be no alternative.

The problem lies in this approach, not the developer. This is the same approach I see when I hear about unnecessary content and too many renders in the game.
Strange as it may seem, but many people, like little children, do not understand that the world is diverse, there are many things in it and it cannot correspond only to your interests.

Have you ever seen a child who falls to the ground and kicks his legs demanding to instantly get this particular toy?
Many users remind me of just such children.

 

[palmtrees89]

That is, it doesn't occur to you that two different people work in different ways? You have only one simple thought, another developer is cheating and there can be no alternative.

The problem lies in this approach, not the developer. This is the same approach I see when I hear about unnecessary content and too many renders in the game.
Strange as it may seem, but many people, like little children, do not understand that the world is diverse, there are many things in it and it cannot correspond only to your interests.

Have you ever seen a child who falls to the ground and kicks his legs demanding to instantly get this particular toy?
Many users remind me of just such children.

Different ways for sure. One works his ass off, delivering. The other is getting slower with every update while providing less content.

Other than that, barely anything in your post makes much sense. Might want to read my following post after the one you quoted. If you don't understand it, I can't help you.