nexer

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5 days ago:

Bar scene is finished. Now it's the transition phase to 2nd part.
To be clear: Five days ago Sophia got into Patricia's car and wanted to go home.

But after this message
Yea he did and lets just say that Sophia/Patricia could grab peoples attention away from the band playing.
Nice going on stealing the show girls I am sure Sam is very pleased
If the two have started to show off, it means Patricia has warmed up a bit and wants more.
Come on Patricia, all for you, none for Sam :ROFLMAO:
 

Sabertooth__

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Saber, Saber, Saber. No negative? You started negative.

Can Sam's route really be called romantic.

That called into question anyone's view that it is. Remember, he is a teenager. He is (was) friends with Dylan. Sam voices the hormones that are raging but, apparently just for Sophia. Ellie is an afterthought in discussion with Sophia. Is this "The Notebook"? Nope,


I mean I get why people refer to it as a romantic path, Sam acting like a hopeless romantic etc but behind this facade the reality isn't pure at all. The guy too wants Sophia's body. We do know what he thinks about Sophia from his exchange with Dylan in the initial game days.

You just see Sam from this exchange but only in the negative. He is pleading with Dylan to acknowledge the beauty of Sophia. He does so in a language Dylan understands. Sam does not realize Dylan's point of view. He does not conceive that Dylan not only knows Sophia's beauty but, wants it for himself. Is Sam a teenager? Absolutely! Is he emotionally immature? Duh! AND is this not a porn game where everyone must see Sophia with desire? Sam is the closest to Romantic outside the GW path. It is his position.

Maybe he is more the Lancelot then the Percival. (Definitely not James Garner / Ryan Gosling right!) Lancelot betrayed his King, betrayed the Round Table and, ultimately, betrayed the woman he loved. Is this more the young Sam? He is willing to do anything to quiet his restless heart.
Okay... My question is being read in a wrong manner. The way I say it is in manner to call out to those who might think like me and those who might have interest in that perspective. Not calling out those who actually see romance in that route. What I laid forward is a perspective and my reason for having such a perspective. That's the way I could frame my question in the best possible way to say this as objectively as I could. The word "really" in between might be what gives a wrong impression but I used that because on surface level yes it is a romantic route, hence why I acknowledge it but I wanted to point out to what's beneath the surface.


You can't just sweep everything under the rug by saying he is a teenager and his hormones are not in his control or this is a porn game. The discussion was never about Sam's maturity or that this is romance in a porn game. It was a straight simple "It this romance" which is being pursued with deceit in it the forefront. He might be acting in the best possible way he can but as mature people with the complete view we can say and see that it is not exactly love, it is not about romance. It is an infatuation, the Milf fantasy getting to his head and his hormones triggering more of lust.
 

Talcum Powder

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Well...at times I have seen bands with a single guitarist who does everything that is demanded of the guitar, and in those cases the band (in my experience) has a bass lead. Examples of that is Primus (and again, Rush).
Exploring my own question, it occurred to me that there could be two lead singers as with 'Three Dog Night'.
Cream: one guitar, one bass, one drummer. Typically Jack Bruce was lead singer though Clapton did his fair share as well.
 

t3alqdansam

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Okay... My question is being read in a wrong manner. The way I say it is in manner to call out to those who might think like me and those who might have interest in that perspective. Not calling out those who actually see romance in that route. What I laid forward is a perspective and my reason for having such a perspective. That's the way I could frame my question in the best possible way to say this as objectively as I could. The word "really" in between might be what gives a wrong impression but I used that because on surface level yes it is a romantic route, hence why I acknowledge it but I wanted to point out to what's beneath the surface.


You can't just sweep everything under the rug by saying he is a teenager and his hormones are not in his control or this is a porn game. The discussion was never about Sam's maturity or that this is romance in a porn game. It was a straight simple "It this romance" which is being pursued with deceit in it the forefront. He might be acting in the best possible way he can but as mature people with the complete view we can say and see that it is not exactly love, it is not about romance. It is an infatuation, the Milf fantasy getting to his head and his hormones triggering more of lust.
Can a teenager differentiate between infatuation and love? I would say 99 % can't. Is L&P capturing this well by intent or just shit happens and he is lucky. Once again I disagree on the deceit concept. You can't stand the discussion with Dylan where Sam merely states the obvious. She is the hottest Milf. Does he love her? In his mind maybe. He is sure hot to trot for her and apparently always has been. Is he able to express this to Dylan. No way! Dylan would go ballistic. He has to express his love of her appearance in a way most teenage boys talk about women, girls. He cannot reveal to Dylan his real feelings.

Maybe Sam is just Bloefeld in his formative years. I don't think so. So we disagree.
 

Bill_Buttlicker

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Two statements from L&P that seem to contradict each other.


Here you can see the whole dimension of the scene. It's really tough working with it. To render it I even had to NVLink my two GPUs, becauce the 24 GB VRAM of a single one were too little for it. I'm glad when it's over and I move to part 2 of the event which will be much easier to work with.



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Since Part II stays top secret, you'll get a little bonus teaser of Part I. So, this will be the last teaser of this event. Which also means that the next and last teaser of this update could take some time.
I believe this is what L&P was trying to hide for the next teaser.

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bayrischman

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To be clear: Five days ago Sophia got into Patricia's car and wanted to go home.

But after this message


If the two have started to show off, it means Patricia has warmed up a bit and wants more.
Come on Patricia, all for you, none for Sam :ROFLMAO:
25 percent times 2 is 50 percent . 5 days for 5 percent is 50 days until the sam event is finished. around8 november . so if it goes well for christmas the update . rather at the beginning of january.
 

Atton563

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25 percent times 2 is 50 percent . 5 days for 5 percent is 50 days until the sam event is finished. around8 november . so if it goes well for christmas the update . rather at the beginning of january.
We can't really rely on math to fiqure out when the update will be done. I've been building a scene for the past two days and still have not got it how I want it yet. Like me L&P is a perfectionist but unlike me he is very expericanced with creating scenes, The cathy event location might only take half a day to build or it could take a week if he obsesses over it so there is really no point trying to guess when it will be done, well not if you value your sanity.
 
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ancienregimele

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Anna & Sophia convergence. Denied the latest spoiler, like all good pirates, I make maximum use of available resources.

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That reminded me of how things have changed to suit the audience. Separated at birth, or sisters under the skin? Great for some, not so much for others. Looking at these two, it's even worse than I thought. It's the new "Betty Boop" realism. [I like Betty Boop but as a cartoon character......& yes, I know she was based on a real person].
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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Anna & Sophia convergence. Denied the latest spoiler, like all good pirates, I make maximum use of available resources.

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That reminded me of how things have changed to suit the audience. Separated at birth, or sisters under the skin? Great for some, not so much for others. Looking at these two, it's even worse than I thought. It's the new "Betty Boop" realism. [I like Betty Boop but as a cartoon character......& yes, I know she was based on a real person].
Anna may be even more over the top than Sophia. Playing these games and browsing this forum has really given me insights into the male gaze. Fascinating stuff.
 
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xxxorro

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Here's the teaser :ROFLMAO: (from )

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Feels like Sophia and Patricia (the greenish patch?) dancing together between the round tables as KillJoys said.

If you reduce the size and squint your eyes... :D
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The lights of the bar may change a bit the color of the dresses, here for reference
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