Talcum Powder

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Things are indeed moving... He looks to be making a very concerted effort to deliver a treat rather than a trick...

Pct CompleteFactorPct of Update
Created Scenes80%55%44.00%
Rendered Scenes75%25%18.75%
Art edited with PS15%5%0.75%
Programming & Translation0%15%0.00%
Total Pct of Update Completed63.50%
Start Date7/5/2021
Festival of Bullshit (excuses)0
Bullshit Days Consumed so far0
Current # Days of Production (less BS consumed)87
Days remaining in Festival of Bullshit0
Estimated Completion Date11/19/2021


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t3alqdansam

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When I was 12 I had a picture of Natalie Wood, (as she appeared in "The Great Race"), near my bed, so I could wake up & look into her big brown eyes. All teenage & tweenage hetero boys want to sleep with women of all types, although I disagree about the "all ages" part but we're all entitled to our own proclivities. What most of them don't want is to sleep with their own mothers. I don't pretend to understand Dylan, or even the current staggering popularity of the incest fetish in general.

What I've never done is to try & spoil the fun of those who do support this kink. So I don't want this next part to be taken the wrong way but have to ask, why it is that we never seem to find much mental torment on the part of the sons within the crop of incest sagas? I will stand corrected if you know of good examples. I don't because I don't play these games anymore.

It's almost as if the sons pursue the mothers with an "all's fair in love & war" approach, as they would with any other woman. Incest is not the pursuit of any other woman. It wouldn't be a fetish or taboo if this were the case. Maybe AWAM would gain in realism if Dylan stopped sometimes to at least wonder why he wanted to fuck the woman who gave birth to him? An answer such as, 'why do you need to ask, just look at her' is not an answer but just proves my idea of the any other woman approach.
Who was that guy like over 2k years ago... Oedipus I believe. Hmmmmm!
 

leg28

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I beg to differ here. I haven't found a single game on this forum (of the same quality) where the MC is a MILF moving towards an intimate relationship with her son. Project Myriam is the only game that comes to my mind, but incest is totally avoidable there. I don't see any other game with the mom-son route. Jessie Mother's Sins and Life Is Hard were two games with similar plots, but they're abandoned. Elena's Life had sex with the stepson, but also with every other guy in the game. There is an RPG game where mom-son sex happens (forgot the name), but it's RPG shit with even shittier graphics. Perfect Stranger had potential, but there hasn't been an update for 10 months. True Bond is the only game that seems to be moving in that direction, but again it's with an adopted kid.
So which games did you find apart from AWAM with a female MC where mon-son sex has happened?
actually you're right if you looking that way. i really thought there were more. so i browse games having female protagonist-milf-incest tags and came to 69 results, but now when i analized it came down to several as you said.
there is also game the office: fem protagonist and underage kid. you can decide how related they are (my guess is mc+her sister+sister's kid). also pleasureville-maddy's diaries has incest, but mc is underage daughter who watches her mom and dad having sex and same time wanking her equally underaged brother
btw awam is not game where mother-son sex happened although looks like there can be one in distant future, i mean veeeeery distant future
 

palmtrees89

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The last time I played was around v100 or so. Is v130 worth taking a look again or is the added content minimal?
v115 isn't terrible I guess. v130 is, well, if you like spicy content with elementary school kids it's worth it I guess. Not for me, though. Both updates are kinda short aswell, so you probably won't miss much if you wait a couple more years.

Edit: Forgot to mention another one of Aiden's tasks in v130, but you be the judge there. Some people really liked this one, others didn't.
 
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Sabertooth__

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When I was 12 I had a picture of Natalie Wood, (as she appeared in "The Great Race"), near my bed, so I could wake up & look into her big brown eyes. All teenage & tweenage hetero boys want to sleep with women of all types, although I disagree about the "all ages" part but we're all entitled to our own proclivities. What most of them don't want is to sleep with their own mothers. I don't pretend to understand Dylan, or even the current staggering popularity of the incest fetish in general.

What I've never done is to try & spoil the fun of those who do support this kink. So I don't want this next part to be taken the wrong way but have to ask, why it is that we never seem to find much mental torment on the part of the sons within the crop of incest sagas? I will stand corrected if you know of good examples. I don't because I don't play these games anymore.

It's almost as if the sons pursue the mothers with an "all's fair in love & war" approach, as they would with any other woman. Incest is not the pursuit of any other woman. It wouldn't be a fetish or taboo if this were the case. Maybe AWAM would gain in realism if Dylan stopped sometimes to at least wonder why he wanted to fuck the woman who gave birth to him? An answer such as, 'why do you need to ask, just look at her' is not an answer but just proves my idea of the any other woman approach.
I really like this point of yours. Indeed this is something that needs to be taken into consideration. The guys in porn games are always portrayed as people who can't think of anything but sex. Except for the husband of the woman that everyone wants to fuck. Every single time.

It would really be adding a lot more character to Dylan if he would also feel conflicted about pursuing his own mother. Similarly for Ellie. At present however Ellie is not actively pursuing Sophia I would say, it's difficult to explain but Ellie is more like contended with whatever she gets as opposed to Dylan. I believe we all can see the difference between the two so I won't try to explain it. It's difficult.

But later down the line when Ellie does realise she is actively pursuing her own mother sexually, the same question should occur to her as well. Firstly because she is not a lesbian as she says and secondly she is much more mature. So it would make sense for her to think like this.

All in all a nice point you made
 
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Dylan is not looking out of the window at all times. He is probably playing on his pc and when he does that, as Ellie states both her and Sophia could be standing naked behind him and he won't know. So there's hardly any chance he would even be aware of this.



One more scenario can be, he is not at home. We don't know if Dylan Ellie event will end with them going out somewhere, who knows.



Also do you think Dylan has any authority to question his mother why she is wearing a certain dress. Also Dylan encourages Sophia to dress sexy, Example the Aiden 2nd event dress. So it's no problem I feel
Are we not exactly sure that Dylan is in his bedroom or is he out with ellie? Because at night, Dylan has the habit of watching his mobile or TV in the living room, rather than the bedroom. And if Dylan already knew his mother had gone to the Sam show.He's looking forward to Sophia coming home. Even when he is in his bedroom, Sophia arrives home and immediately he learns that she is here.Then he can come talk to her. And everyday As soon as Sophia gets home before and after leaving the house, Sophia comes into her children's room (i.e. Dylan and Ellie's room), see them and talk to them.Then she has the habit of going to her room and changing her clothes.This has been shown many times since the beginning of the game.In one of these scenarios, Sophia can get caught and he can ask about it.

As we all know Sam is a Big Pervert.And he is not the one who keeps to himself the feelings of the mind and what he has seen, he has the habit of telling everything to Dylan or someone else. Maybe one day he'll tell Dylan that thing, Then Dylan gets angry and He could question Sophia for that matter. Sophia may not have answered Dylan's questions at the time. Maybe if Sophia went to the concert wearing a modest dress and Dylan saw her with Sam, he wouldn't have to question her. But I think you noticed that dress and even discussed it. The dress Sophia wore to the show, even those women of her age, would not go to the show wearing such dresses.But she goes to the show wearing a dress for the sake of Sam and the way he likes.

When she returns home with Sam, And reveals that the dress she is wearing is very revealing drees, like a dress worn by teenage girls and she looks like a street slut. When Sophia is seen at night with Sam wearing a short and hot dress, they are usually suspicious and question her about it. He would definitely question her if he saw sophia dressed like that at night and with Sam. Both Liam and Dylan have the right to question her when Sophia makes a mistake and finds her going the wrong way. Also, Dylan is her son, so he easily questions her on that subject. In real life, wouldn't any son question his mother when he saw his mother dressed in short and hot clothes and be with his friend during the night? And do you think he looks at them like that at the time and doesn't question anything about it?

That twist in the story has already been removed. Dylan has nothing to do with the aiden deal in the story. The answer to that question is that Dylan wants to see his mother in sexy clothes, true, but Sophia only wants to wear sexy clothes in front of him and with him, but he doesn't want to see Sophia in a sexy outfit with his friend or anybody else.
 

Sabertooth__

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Are we not exactly sure that Dylan is in his bedroom or is he out with ellie? Because at night, Dylan has the habit of watching his mobile or TV in the living room, rather than the bedroom. And if Dylan already knew his mother had gone to the Sam show.He's looking forward to Sophia coming home. Even when he is in his bedroom, Sophia arrives home and immediately he learns that she is here.Then he can come talk to her. And everyday As soon as Sophia gets home before and after leaving the house, Sophia comes into her children's room (i.e. Dylan and Ellie's room), see them and talk to them.Then she has the habit of going to her room and changing her clothes.This has been shown many times since the beginning of the game.In one of these scenarios, Sophia can get caught and he can ask about it.

As we all know Sam is a Big Pervert.And he is not the one who keeps to himself the feelings of the mind and what he has seen, he has the habit of telling everything to Dylan or someone else. Maybe one day he'll tell Dylan that thing, Then Dylan gets angry and He could question Sophia for that matter. Sophia may not have answered Dylan's questions at the time. Maybe if Sophia went to the concert wearing a modest dress and Dylan saw her with Sam, he wouldn't have to question her. But I think you noticed that dress and even discussed it. The dress Sophia wore to the show, even those women of her age, would not go to the show wearing such dresses.But she goes to the show wearing a dress for the sake of Sam and the way he likes.

When she returns home with Sam, And reveals that the dress she is wearing is very revealing drees, like a dress worn by teenage girls and she looks like a street slut. When Sophia is seen at night with Sam wearing a short and hot dress, they are usually suspicious and question her about it. He would definitely question her if he saw sophia dressed like that at night and with Sam. Both Liam and Dylan have the right to question her when Sophia makes a mistake and finds her going the wrong way. Also, Dylan is her son, so he easily questions her on that subject. In real life, wouldn't any son question his mother when he saw his mother dressed in short and hot clothes and be with his friend during the night? And do you think he looks at them like that at the time and doesn't question anything about it?

That twist in the story has already been removed. Dylan has nothing to do with the aiden deal in the story. The answer to that question is that Dylan wants to see his mother in sexy clothes, true, but Sophia only wants to wear sexy clothes in front of him and with him, but he doesn't want to see Sophia in a sexy outfit with his friend or anybody else.
We are not sure if he is in the room. Just because I am normally at home at night doesn't mean you can guarantee I am at home every single time. You can only make an assumption. Dylan has more of a habit of playing on his Pc with his headphones on so he probably won't even hear the car. Ellie's dialogue regarding that backs my assumption.

The teaser with Christine has a car in the background so who knows maybe they do go out.

Sam didn't tell Dylan about getting to see Sophia's areola so anything further will also not be revealed by him. He's not going to risk losing it all by telling Dylan.

The problem with the dress is not that a middle aged woman can't wear it. It is the place she wore it to that we all are against. Sophia and woman of Sophia's age can wear such clothes and in real world they do. Sophia does dress sexy it is just that she doesn't do it frequently. At the beach she has no problem wearing a bikini infront of Dylan.

The dress is totally normal I believe, definitely not what a slut wears. The dress is classy. So the whole argument of questioning his mother why she is dressed like a slut is invalid. Also we don't know if Sophia has worn this dress for Sam, it is your presumption nothing more.

Ofcourse a son has the right to question. But he can only question her casually not in a reprimanding way, there's a difference. Only Liam has the right to do that.

Also if Dylan's mother and friend are around together at night. You don't question your mother about it with suspicion. You talk to your friend about such suspicion and don't start doubting your own mother.

Who said that he wants Sophia dressed sexy only for him. Even when the twist is removed he still supports Sophia when she wears the outfit for the second task knowing full well that the whole school will see her dressed like that. The outfit was definitely more revealing than this concert one. So he definitely is not against Sophia dressing sexy in public.
 
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Are we not exactly sure that Dylan is in his bedroom or is he out with ellie? Because at night, Dylan has the habit of watching his mobile or TV in the living room, rather than the bedroom. And if Dylan already knew his mother had gone to the Sam show.He's looking forward to Sophia coming home. Even when he is in his bedroom, Sophia arrives home and immediately he learns that she is here.Then he can come talk to her. And everyday As soon as Sophia gets home before and after leaving the house, Sophia comes into her children's room (i.e. Dylan and Ellie's room), see them and talk to them.Then she has the habit of going to her room and changing her clothes.This has been shown many times since the beginning of the game.In one of these scenarios, Sophia can get caught and he can ask about it.

As we all know Sam is a Big Pervert.And he is not the one who keeps to himself the feelings of the mind and what he has seen, he has the habit of telling everything to Dylan or someone else. Maybe one day he'll tell Dylan that thing, Then Dylan gets angry and He could question Sophia for that matter. Sophia may not have answered Dylan's questions at the time. Maybe if Sophia went to the concert wearing a modest dress and Dylan saw her with Sam, he wouldn't have to question her. But I think you noticed that dress and even discussed it. The dress Sophia wore to the show, even those women of her age, would not go to the show wearing such dresses.But she goes to the show wearing a dress for the sake of Sam and the way he likes.

When she returns home with Sam, And reveals that the dress she is wearing is very revealing drees, like a dress worn by teenage girls and she looks like a street slut. When Sophia is seen at night with Sam wearing a short and hot dress, they are usually suspicious and question her about it. He would definitely question her if he saw sophia dressed like that at night and with Sam. Both Liam and Dylan have the right to question her when Sophia makes a mistake and finds her going the wrong way. Also, Dylan is her son, so he easily questions her on that subject. In real life, wouldn't any son question his mother when he saw his mother dressed in short and hot clothes and be with his friend during the night? And do you think he looks at them like that at the time and doesn't question anything about it?

That twist in the story has already been removed. Dylan has nothing to do with the aiden deal in the story. The answer to that question is that Dylan wants to see his mother in sexy clothes, true, but Sophia only wants to wear sexy clothes in front of him and with him, but he doesn't want to see Sophia in a sexy outfit with his friend or anybody else.
The dress Sophia wore for Aiden's task 2nd task shows more than the outfit that she wore for the concert and also the dress for the prison visit was more revealing.
Did Dylan look bothered when he noticed that his mother had changed her dress while visiting Alyssa?
Sophia wore the yellow dress in front of Dylan and he even said himself that it would look better without a bra, so I don't see Dylan having any problem with his mother wearing such outfits.

As for Sophia only dressing sexy for him, well you are in for a big shock further down the line.
 
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Are we not exactly sure that Dylan is in his bedroom or is he out with ellie? Because at night, Dylan has the habit of watching his mobile or TV in the living room, rather than the bedroom. And if Dylan already knew his mother had gone to the Sam show.He's looking forward to Sophia coming home. Even when he is in his bedroom, Sophia arrives home and immediately he learns that she is here.Then he can come talk to her. And everyday As soon as Sophia gets home before and after leaving the house, Sophia comes into her children's room (i.e. Dylan and Ellie's room), see them and talk to them.Then she has the habit of going to her room and changing her clothes.This has been shown many times since the beginning of the game.In one of these scenarios, Sophia can get caught and he can ask about it.

As we all know Sam is a Big Pervert.And he is not the one who keeps to himself the feelings of the mind and what he has seen, he has the habit of telling everything to Dylan or someone else. Maybe one day he'll tell Dylan that thing, Then Dylan gets angry and He could question Sophia for that matter. Sophia may not have answered Dylan's questions at the time. Maybe if Sophia went to the concert wearing a modest dress and Dylan saw her with Sam, he wouldn't have to question her. But I think you noticed that dress and even discussed it. The dress Sophia wore to the show, even those women of her age, would not go to the show wearing such dresses.But she goes to the show wearing a dress for the sake of Sam and the way he likes.

When she returns home with Sam, And reveals that the dress she is wearing is very revealing drees, like a dress worn by teenage girls and she looks like a street slut. When Sophia is seen at night with Sam wearing a short and hot dress, they are usually suspicious and question her about it. He would definitely question her if he saw sophia dressed like that at night and with Sam. Both Liam and Dylan have the right to question her when Sophia makes a mistake and finds her going the wrong way. Also, Dylan is her son, so he easily questions her on that subject. In real life, wouldn't any son question his mother when he saw his mother dressed in short and hot clothes and be with his friend during the night? And do you think he looks at them like that at the time and doesn't question anything about it?

That twist in the story has already been removed. Dylan has nothing to do with the aiden deal in the story. The answer to that question is that Dylan wants to see his mother in sexy clothes, true, but Sophia only wants to wear sexy clothes in front of him and with him, but he doesn't want to see Sophia in a sexy outfit with his friend or anybody else.
Any son can question their mother but they have no right to expect a civil answer, especially if they are of the, "where have you been?". "what do you think you're wearing?" variety. Those are questions parents ask of teenagers. Dylan is the child, Sophia the parent. Sometimes that seems to be forgotten in Dylan's behaviour. Dylan has the rights of a child, Sophia the obligations & responsibilities of a parent. Much less is Dylan a guardian of his mother's morals. They're not equals & that's one of the problems Dylan should be thinking about. As for Dylan getting angry, that's presumptuous, to put it mildly. Dylan can't tell his mother where to go, what to do, or even who to see. Even if he's 18, that side of the relationship won't change.

If any questions were to be asked, it is for Liam to ask them. Affairs break up marriages & long-term relationships. They can lead to untold misery for a wide range of people, not just the two lovers. They can lead to mental breakdown, violence, even murder & suicide. Incestuous affairs can have even worse consequences. If, as we expect, it is planned that Dylan will fuck his own mother at some point in the future, these are issues that will need consideration. I should say that they'll need it, if this VN is to be anything more than just another puerile "hot Mom, son with big knob" fantasy, albeit one that takes 20+ years to reach such a point.
 
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