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As we all know, "somebody" posted this image with L&P's patreon link, pretending that it is from L&P. I rolled my eyes with people who were actually deceived. The somebody now claims that L&P must have been milking because he was able to make this render in a short time frame.
I don't have any intention to offend him. Actually, I thought it's one of sound renders from a newbie using pre-made lightings, poses and expressions. But he started comparing his work with L&P's. Let's find out why I immediately noticed it's not from L&P.
- Focus of the image: Story of the scene seems to be about Sophia riding the bull but she was not focused. I can guess it's because her pose turns out ugly and unnatural. But that's a huge lost opportunity there.
- Camera headlamp turned on: A typical newbie mistake. You forgot to turn off camera headlamp and the lighting is visibly noticeable in the image and breaking realism of the scene because everything (e.g., eyes, skins, ...) is shiny and bright in the front part of the scene. It also means he does not have the renderer's eyes yet.
- Lighting: Basically no lighting effort. I am not sure what L&P does for his lighting. But his scene includes volumetric ray and HDRI (high-dynamic-range imaging) feel. There is none in the image above because "somebody" just used the light from the environment as it is.
- Poses and expressions: Somebody tried to express people in the scene amused by Sophia riding bull. But since he used default poses and expression, emotion of the scene feels like a fake smile or a bad acting. And as for Sophia pose, somebody tried to blur, but the unnatural hand/leg poses were noticeable. This would not happen in L&P's
- Empty tables: OK Let's assume everybody in the scene came to see Sophia but nothing in the tables?
- Camera angle: not optimized at all. I don't see basics of scene composition. I don't think he even experimented many angles whether focus is on the people or on Sophia.
In summary, the somebody made the scene with pre-made lighting, poses, expression, and so on without optimizing them. And the speedy result may be good for fan art and for some VN, but I don't expect it from L&P's. Ultimately, here is decision you can make. If you are satisfied with this kind of render for VN, go find one. There are hundreds of them, if not thousands. If you not satisfied and you still feel his milking, you might have text fetish. Go to literotica.com and enjoy.
thanks t3alqdansam for his suggestion.
So many words, so much shit wrong.
Let's start:
First of all I didn't compare my work with L&P like they were the same quality. But since you're talking about comparisons:
go compare my renders after 50h of DAZ with L&P's work when he had 50 hours of Daz.
2. Focus of the image: Your opinion.
3. Camera headlamp turned on? No, it's not. That's wrong. There's a lightsource right above her, maybe shined too bright but no headlamp, good try buddy.
4. There's actually hdri in there but no volumetric rays inside. You want what? Particles? Godrays inside a bar at night? It's doable but unecessary for what was a joke. Good try again buddy.
5. Poses and expressions: Absolutely wrong. No presets at all in anything, I'm not L&P (he does use preset expressions and I can even tell you which packs he does use). Every face expression and movement from the torso up was changed (and some clipping feet here and there). Wrong again buddy. The only poses that were used were horse riding poses to make it easier to pose her on top of something. You really think L&P doesn't use pose packs?
6. Empty tables: why put people in there for a fan art render? I could always argue everyone came to see her and the bartender is fucking Sam in the back. Done
7. Camera angle "I don't think he even experimente angles whether focus is on the people or on Sophia". This is how it's noticeable you're just full of shit, you and t3, because 18 renders were posted on the fan art topic with 4 different angles.
Wrong again buddy.
I'm not saying they are good or bad. I'm saying I made them like that and some dudes fell for it. Hell even showed up on some youtube video as spoiler.
In 2something hours, I inserted the scene, put some props on the bar, got all the characters added, everyone dressed, everyone posed differently, cameras set up, tried some shit with lights like volumetric lighting, rendered + post process and did the renders attached.
Thats what someone absolutely new with no intention whatsoever of ever having any sort of business in this space does with 50h of experience to post on a fan art thread expecting absolutely 0 reward.
This is what someone whose livelihood is this business with 15000 of DAZ does right now with 2something hours:
I don't mean to offend but next time, don't make a fool out of yourself "somebody" and if
t3alqdansam wants to say something he can do it on his main account.