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I agree at this point. And when L&P shifts to event base updates starting in the next update, will he use a progression bar? Will there be a point? Some people think there is no point to it now, and they could be right.
I agree. On this site, I have seen a few devs sending a weekly or fortnightly update, either directly on here or indirectly via Patreon. It's enough to give a sense of progress without worrying if a [articular day jumps zero or five per cent.
 

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I don't see much change in Dylan's behavior. Like that too. We're talking about a couple of days in Dylan's / Sophia's life. How steep do you want Dylan's learning curve to be? There are a couple of signs that Dylan is actually learning, like the scene when Elli asked for help fixing her computer. There, breaking the eternal cycle of small and large nasties between siblings was actually a step that made Dylan appear more adult. The scene in the park with the hobos, on the other hand, was just showing off the new skills. The Sophia realized that Dylan can actually defend himself and his mother was just a side effect. It's right that Dylan doesn't have to beg anymore to get favors from Sophia, but the scene in the park when Sophia allowed him to "test" her ass had nothing to do with a more mature Dylan.
It's not about the hand on the butt more than the conversation they were having together. When this arc started, it was supposed to be about "Sex-Ed." The learning curve doesn't have to be steep due to the time constants he has in the novel, but there hasn't been a learning curve for "Sex-Ed." with Dylan. It was primarily perverted stuff, which is why I was never a fan of starting with "Sex-Ed" with Dylan, as it is hard to move out of into another theme.

I agree that he has a good conversation and learning with Ellie, but if the reader chooses to follow that path. The path and comparison become viable if the reader unlocks that path with the other path they are playing. If they don't open it, then it just becomes a stand-alone story.

I wouldn't say he was showing off his new skill as it was more about defending Sophia. He talked about what he had learned two days after the fight, which impressed Sophia not only that her reaction was completely different as she described this in her inner thoughts about Dylan.

It's right that Dylan doesn't have to beg anymore to get favors from Sophia, but the scene in the park when Sophia allowed him to "test" her ass had nothing to do with a more mature Dylan.

Her reactions and thoughts after Dylan defended her allowed him to touch or "Test" her ass. All the scenes before that had her set limits on what Dylan could do. When he was in the changing room at the mall and asked if he could touch her breast, the answer was no. In the Viagra incident, when she talked with Liam and Dylan grabbed her butt, she grabbed his hand and pulled it off. During the Bikini event, he had to be careful where he placed his hand above her butt in the lower back region. This scene was different as Dylan was now, in her eyes, a protector instead of the "Sex-Ed" theme, which could fit a romance side of the story in the end, which a strong protector would fit that narrative perfectly. Going from someone was wanking off in 4 different P.D.s, begged, spied, and manipulated to now a defender is a change in character and maturity. Keep in mind, L&P has to develop these characters quickly because of the 30 P.D. window he gave himself to tell the story, and he has 18 P.D.s left. So it will jump around, which is why time-lapse was brought up numerous times to help with the realism part of this.

It's not that Dylan has "grown" in the past few days, it's that Sophia has gotten "smaller". And that's right, because we're supposed to be watching Sophia's corruption process and not Dylan's.
People grow / learn quickly when external circumstances change. What external circumstances have changed for Dylan other than the family moved to another country? Only external pressure will cause Dylan to change quickly. But he has a mother who intercepts everything, really everything, and takes on herself to protect the family. Unless L&P has planned dramatic changes for Dylan in history, we will puzzle and argue about Dylan's behavior until the end (in the year 2035 ;)).
In all the Arcs, you watch both characters as the character that Sophia is courting has a role to play. Although Sophia is the protagonist in most of the arcs, Some POV scenes may vary; with Dylan, she teaches him about women to get a girlfriend and grow as a character. But as you said, we're supposed to see Sophia explore different levels of sexuality, lust, and love. And as I said and you pointed out, there will be a lot of growing and learning quickly because of the amount of P.D. time he has left. So the production time may end in 2035 (that seems a little bit short. :p), but that still doesn't change the fact that he has 18 P.D. left to tell the story, which would take many years from a realistic standpoint P.D.s to tell. So again, Characters' growth and corruption will have to develop quickly.
 

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I could see him combining the events in the morning on the next P.D. but the other's IDK...

Morning
1. Literature Lesson (4th Task)
Bonus Scene - Most Likely "The 1st Comfortable Solution"
2. Don Morello -Optional
1. Literature Lesson (4th Task)
Bonus Scene - Most Likely "The 1st Comfortable Solution"Are in the morning?
I also thought that the Morello event was also in the morning?
So unless he has changed something 4th task(+bonus) and Morello are in the morning of Playable day 13.
Or am I missing something here?
 

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1. Literature Lesson (4th Task)
Bonus Scene - Most Likely "The 1st Comfortable Solution"Are in the morning?
I also thought that the Morello event was also in the morning?
They are in the morning, but he's going to be event-based driven updates. So if he keeps true to that, then one update would be Aiden and the next would be Don Morello unless he combines them because of how short they could possibly be.

0.150 will be the last update in the old format. After this update is finished I will start working on a Part II, where some new stuff will be available. Also a gallery mode. But I want to include some to this last version too (and some other tiny improvements), since it will be the last update of Part I. In Part II of the game, the updates will be available after every event is finished. You won't need to download the whole game again and again (it will be much smaller of size anyway). You'll just have to click on the update button in the menu and only the new stuff will be added to your older version.

It's not time of day, but event-based as he said in his quote. He may clarify this later.
 
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They are in the morning, but he's going to be event-based driven updates. So if he keeps true to that, then one update would be Aiden and the next would be Don Morello unless he combines them because of how short they could possibly be.

0.150 will be the last update in the old format. After this update is finished I will start working on a Part II, where some new stuff will be available. Also a gallery mode. But I want to include some to this last version too (and some other tiny improvements), since it will be the last update of Part I. In Part II of the game, the updates will be available after every event is finished. You won't need to download the whole game again and again (it will be much smaller of size anyway). You'll just have to click on the update button in the menu and only the new stuff will be added to your older version.
Ok...Thanks for the update Dr.Fapalot
 
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I could see him combining the events in the morning on the next P.D. but the other's IDK...

Morning
1. Literature Lesson (4th Task)
Bonus Scene - Most Likely "The 1st Comfortable Solution"
2. Don Morello -Optional
We see many things in the same way, but we still have different perspectives. But that's fine with me because it will lead to a lot of interesting discussions with new updates to the story.

What excites me every time is the word "optional" in connection with the Morello event. Why is it optional? It would mean that this event will have no influence on the main story and / or that another side path will be opened. I just can't think of anything useful. Why all this effort for rendering the event when L&P ends this pafd anyway?
 

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They are in the morning, but he's going to be event-based driven updates. So if he keeps true to that, then one update would be Aiden and the next would be Don Morello unless he combines them because of how short they could possibly be.

0.150 will be the last update in the old format. After this update is finished I will start working on a Part II, where some new stuff will be available. Also a gallery mode. But I want to include some to this last version too (and some other tiny improvements), since it will be the last update of Part I. In Part II of the game, the updates will be available after every event is finished. You won't need to download the whole game again and again (it will be much smaller of size anyway). You'll just have to click on the update button in the menu and only the new stuff will be added to your older version.

It's not time of day, but event-based as he said in his quote. He may clarify this later.
The whining about too long time intervals between the updates will shift to the whining about too small updates. I can already hear it: What the fuck, wait 6 weeks for 1 minute of playing time ".
 

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We see many things in the same way, but we still have different perspectives. But that's fine with me because it will lead to a lot of interesting discussions with new updates to the story.

What excites me every time is the word "optional" in connection with the Morello event. Why is it optional? It would mean that this event will have no influence on the main story and / or that another side path will be opened. I just can't think of anything useful. Why all this effort for rendering the event when L&P ends this pafd anyway?
The optional comes into play because you could of dragged Liam home and so the debt never happened and also Sophia has had to make certain choices before hand.
Another thing is that I think that Alyssa could play a role in sorting out Bennett or Aiden.
 
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The optional comes into play because you could of dragged Liam home and so the debt never happened and also this as Sophia has had to make certain choices before hand
Oh, ok, that would be a very simple explanation.
 

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The whining about too long time intervals between the updates will shift to the whining about too small updates. I can already hear it: What the fuck, wait 6 weeks for 1 minute of playing time ".
That's why it's not a viable option. IMO, the proper fix would be to cut down on the supporting cast in the novel. Which, in turn, would cut some scenes short and reduce the amount of CS/Renders he needs. As long as he has 79+ characters interacting with Sophia, from one-and-done to LI's and Lust characters, he will have the same amount or more scenes to create. Plus, as an example, he still has the Patricia horse-riding scene, which will be a new location, which means brand new areas to develop, including trail riding or whatever he has planned.
 

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Alright, I see that you have edited this post with more text. So let me respond in kind. I will put my post behind a filter/spoiler this time.

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If the announcement was made later, it doesn't matter. He has his story laid out. We don't know that the twist will happen, he knows. He is not writing the story on a whim.

Do you know this for a fact? Have you seen his script or outline for the entire story? I would be very surprised if you have seen it. He is editing his story all the time as he had stated he does this constantly. This update is a prime example as he had to add text to Aiden's event because he increase it. So yes, he is writing or rewriting his story on a whim as you would say.
I think we all know he is working from an outline now, at best. He works the scenes artistically for his draft, outline, internal vision (As he removes the superfluous marble from his block to find his Aphrodite inside.). The actual narrative and dialogue follow. It makes no sense for the amount of translation time otherwise. This also allows him the time to make changes as well.

It is also a self imposed time crunch as he has a very minimal time to complete this and no real justification of process for any delays. If it was already written it would be done now, not over the last ten or so days of the update. Just imagine how this will play out as he goes to events. GingerSweetGirl is spot on, IMO, for a disjointed result.
 

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he takes christmas off from december 20th to january 7th.
Which I think is completely reasonable.

We were always bored to tears when I flew in the UK as Bank Holiday season came upon us. Lots of ground training events, followed by more ground training, by paperwork drills, and the occasional simulator. Some were able to get a holiday as well but, too few because of manning requirements.
 
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The optional comes into play because you could of dragged Liam home and so the debt never happened and also Sophia has had to make certain choices before hand
You'd only really drag him home if you want to go the boring GW route.
 

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That's why it's not a viable option. IMO, the proper fix would be to cut down on the supporting cast in the novel. Which, in turn, would cut some scenes short and reduce the amount of CS/Renders he needs. As long as he has 79+ characters interacting with Sophia, from one-and-done to LI's and Lust characters, he will have the same amount or more scenes to create. Plus, as an example, he still has the Patricia horse-riding scene, which will be a new location, which means brand new areas to develop, including trail riding or whatever he has planned.
I hope that the story will not be reduced to one main route. The overall narrative is too interesting for me for that.
The only thing that bothers me about the event-based updates is that even if I have the inner discipline to wait two or three updates and only then continue playing the game, I would have to leave this forum because I would then learn everything through spoilers, even without playing .
 

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I hope that the story will not be reduced to one main route. The overall narrative is too interesting for me for that.
The only thing that bothers me about the event-based updates is that even if I have the inner discipline to wait two or three updates and only then continue playing the game, I would have to leave this forum because I would then learn everything through spoilers, even without playing .
I am also not too keen on event based updates and I think that it could kill off a lot of chatter about the game,depending on who was in the update.
I can also see people complaining about "O no not another update with him/her again" based on the number of events that certain characters have
 

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Don't dismiss the GW route as boring
I did a GW run-through last week and it was totally boring for me, having played the filthy route before, I could see how much got missed out if you just took all the GW decisions. There are some good scenes you miss if you do certain GW options, wait for Dylan to finish showering to use the toilet means you miss a load of options later in the game, have sex with Liam and you miss other good scenes as well, there just doesn't seem to be anything that comes out of playing the Good Wife.
 
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