arazag

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This is worst game what i have play. My opinion 3/10 (only because of the high quality image). Developer just milking their patrons telling how hard he is working (11h)with 2.5 page MS Word translating per day (it's about 4h 20min per page) after 4 year of developing game when he is translating by himself every update. During this time, he could learn English or find a good translator. At the same time, I don't even want to talk about the poor gameplay in 2021, where you just click-click-click-click and choose between "showing breasts" or not, a bad plot, and a curve system of character points, where 1 point Ellie> 5 Dylan, 30 points Sam =0 Zack, 1 lesbo >10 flirty (I wrote an approximate point system in the game, but something is clearly wrong with it) etc.
agreed, certainly the worst game ever played here. 4 years of developpment, tons of money received, for literally almost nothing produced, didnt even bother to make one good scene... it's a shame because plot was exciting at first and the milf is hot, but it's literally going no where...
 

nexer

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First of all, thank you for the idiomatic complement (a nice touch).
There is much to unwrap in your response. Please, allow me to better set your expectations. In my varied background I have also spent time in the education field, and have spent years teaching and tutoring those who are English challenged. Some found difficulty because they came from another language and culture, while others created their own difficulty through lack of interest earlier in their lives. In either case, the approach is the same. Find the common ground between yourself (the tutor) and the student, and use language that is shared to expand the vocabulary and concept in the student.
Developing a writing ease in English for a German speaker who wants to make money presenting to an English-speaking audience is the imperative.
The intent for my suggestion (refining the English product by sitting with one skilled in English) is two fold. The first benefit is realized in the short term which is: Get that release out more quickly! The second (and more important) benefit would be that 'L and P' would learn from the sit down sessions and over time have need for them less and less. Maintaining a 'second set of eyes' review would remain as a sanity check. However, in time the time it consumed would become relatively short.
If I hadn't had the years of successful experience tutoring interested students with limited skills I would not be expressing this so confidently now. In addition, the German who is now well versed in English could write vulgarity with a rich depth in both content and refined prose that it would sing like Shakespeare!
I agree with you and will never deny the importance of experience when talking about teaching a language. But I have the other side, the experience of learning a new language. And English is my 3rd, and I consider myself at an intermediate level. I read much better than I write, writing where I still need help.
BTB, vocabulary is important but with language learning experience behind me, sooner or later without grammar you don't advance.
L&P I think has the same problems.
The problem, and the biggest one, is that you have to learn each verb with its transitivity/intransitivity, with its prepositions (in English more than in other languages). Someone who learns skips these details, he will try to increase his vocabulary, but for a high level you have to go back to them. And this is time consuming.
 

Turret

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What do you find hard to belive?
German is actually very close to english, a lot of words are the same or similar. English and german borrow a lot of words from each other, even the syntax is very similar, so it's not any more obscure than any other european language, cyrillic languages for example are far harder to learn than most of the western european languages which stem from the same germanic (not german) language.
Hi! That is both true and untrue! While there are a lot of similarities between German and English, both coming from the West-Germanic branch, they have grown into different directions with the years. (e.g. shakespearean English is a lot closer to modern German than modern English is)
When it comes to syntax, only simple sentences are similar in both languages. Syntactically English is very poor and limited compared to German and several other languages. English has a strict SVO corsett, whereas German´s only truly fixed rule is "declinated verb second element, all other verbs at the end" which is V2/OV for the researchers. Everything else you can play around with in German and even push the limits, for instance you can grammatically correct "brick" the Vorfeld with up to 3-4 related elements (if you know how) when just one element is the typical standard and taught so.
The limitedness of English syntax hit me full force when I started translating my stories into English, even my native English proof reader, who now and then looks over it, says that a lot of meaning gets lost in translation when this meaning is transported by sentence structure, which is a standard in German, but cannot or just rarely copied in English with it´s much stricter rigid structure.

But the problems of transporting the correct meaning between languages is one thing, L&P being this slow in translation in another. He is mega-slow, even a person with just his/her (maybe rusty) Gymnasium English under the belt can translate something halfway decent quicker. He is translating a porn game, not Faust or the Nibelungenlied.

I don't, I've never played any of the translations. I generally try to stay away from adult stuff with german language. Doesn't mean the translation is bad or anything, it's just that (to me) german "dirty talk" sounds silly and awkward.
Well, IMHO that are familiarity issues at work. e.g. English or other languages dirty talk is likewise very silly, if you look at it, but we do not register it like that normally since it is another language.
 

darji

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Hey i am sorry if this was probably asked a thousand times, but is there a way to see all CGs in the game? On the first page it only linked me to the day 19 and 18 CGs.

Since i saw many scenes I did not see while playing I was wondering how much i missed.

Overall the game so far was really enjoyable. There is a lot of tease going on. I wonder how far they will go with actual sex scenes later on.

Also excuse me for my terrible englisch...


Also as another German. German sex talk is really terrible IMO
 

palmtrees89

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Hi! That is both true and untrue! While there are a lot of similarities between German and English, both coming from the West-Germanic branch, they have grown into different directions with the years. (e.g. shakespearean English is a lot closer to modern German than modern English is)
When it comes to syntax, only simple sentences are similar in both languages. Syntactically English is very poor and limited compared to German and several other languages. English has a strict SVO corsett, whereas German´s only truly fixed rule is "declinated verb second element, all other verbs at the end" which is V2/OV for the researchers. Everything else you can play around with in German and even push the limits, for instance you can grammatically correct "brick" the Vorfeld with up to 3-4 related elements (if you know how) when just one element is the typical standard and taught so.
The limitedness of English syntax hit me full force when I started translating my stories into English, even my native English proof reader, who now and then looks over it, says that a lot of meaning gets lost in translation when this meaning is transported by sentence structure, which is a standard in German, but cannot or just rarely copied in English with it´s much stricter rigid structure.

But the problems of transporting the correct meaning between languages is one thing, L&P being this slow in translation in another. He is mega-slow, even a person with just his/her (maybe rusty) Gymnasium English under the belt can translate something halfway decent quicker. He is translating a porn game, not Faust or the Nibelungenlied.

Well, IMHO that are familiarity issues at work. e.g. English or other languages dirty talk is likewise very silly, if you look at it, but we do not register it like that normally since it is another language.
If only I was able to explain it the way you did. You're my hero, and my first born son shall be named after you.
 
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arazag

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People like to be scammed.

And there'll be some 'fans' defending it, like everybody on a pyramid scam usually defend the scammer.

While people keep paying he'll never change the behavior that is keep the ultra slow pace, in fact is changin to get slower and slower each time and less and less content.

people are feeding this behavior of intentionaly slow production to take money. How patreon since begin already paid more than a TOP game with tons of workers, huge size and crazy develpment process.

It's a scam simply that. The story and art is good BUT the delay to keep milking is a scam.

Now i am unfollowing it again and probably will see you lots in a months to see if something change, i doubt it.


how has it not been banned yet ? how can people be so stupid to support such slow dev ?
 
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nexer

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Waiting for the update :ROFLMAO:

Porn games almost always place the action in a warm/very warm locations, which is why the she protagonists wear as few clothes as possible.
But 1635941773833.png said: after some studies, the female fruit fly becomes more promiscuous as the temperature drops. As the temperature increases the number of sexual partners of the female fruit fly decreases.

We'll say it's the flies :whistle:, but the Arab Ahmad Ibn Fadlan on his travels to northern Europe met the Vikings( Volga Vikings ) and what struck him, among other things :ROFLMAO:, was their lack of shame and that wherever he went he saw two of them fucking in full view of everyone.
So I don't know what it's like... :confused:;)
 
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t3alqdansam

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how has it not been banned yet ? how can people be so stupid to support such slow dev ?
Slow development is not a 'bannable' (ck sp) offense.

It is a decision people get to make on their own whether to support or not. Clearly you do not. That is a great decision for you. Others disagree. It has nothing to do with intelligence it has everything to do with their own situation, who they are, and what they like. Why should they be just like you? It is their decision. If you don't like it, say it courteously and accept they have the right to use their time and money the way they see fit. Seems reasonable to me.
 

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Regarding the discussions on German-English translation, are we sure L&P is translating from German to English? Because somewhere in the forums, i came across L&P is actually Turkish (or Greek i am not sure). Then it may be hard for him to translate. Thanks for answers.
He's German. As for family/parents I'm not sure.
 

t3alqdansam

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Regarding the discussions on German-English translation, are we sure L&P is translating from German to English? Because somewhere in the forums, i came across L&P is actually Turkish (or Greek i am not sure). Then it may be hard for him to translate. Thanks for answers.
He writes in German and then translates to English. If you read all the pages (More power to you.) He is slavic or turkic or germanic or... so really not important to the translation issue. Now for predilection it may be, or writing style, or influences. All we know is he lives in Germany and writes his script in German.

Maybe he is a student and each update is actually completing a class assignment. He is only filling the requirements of the teacher and since he is not a full time student this is why it is taking forever. Yeah, that's the ticket!:giggle:
 

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Tbh I hope there's some content in the future updates but I'm only expecting mild, but more revealing teasing scenes w/ all characters.

Sophia is only done with 3 tasks out of 12 so far. I can imagine the 11th and 12th ones are going to be crazy stuff like public sex or gangbangs with students, however I think for a fact we can agree on all tasks till 6 at least being cucked.

I wonder how they're going to re-introduce the janitor or Ivan back into the loop. Janitor seems likely, would be funny if they shower again but with no clothes on hehe.
 
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