VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

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Poser_Voyeur

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jamdan said:
The individual update time, if we're going 1 update per event, doesn't matter that much. A lot of people won't have anything to play in these single event updates. So there is no point in downloading them.

What matters is if these single event updates, over the course of the entire day, speed up development time or not compared to the last few days.

A very informative review I ran across makes me think this is unlikely. Let's look at the numbers...

Day 19 contained roughly 2340 renders.
Day 18 contained roughly 1900 renders.
Day 17 contained roughly 1500 renders.
Day 16 contained roughly 1000 renders.

Notice a pattern? Each consecutive day adds several hundred renders.

Now, to be fair, let's look at the number of events. As the raw number of renders can be misleading.

Day 16 contained 9 events
Day 17 contained 13 events
Day 18 contained 12 events
Day 19 contained 13 events

So, the number of events are fairly even. So, what explains the ever increasing number of renders? Could if simply be bigger or more important events? I suppose it could, but that doesn't help the situation as I think you can assume, due to the progression of the game, future events will be bigger in general than the previous events.

So in the end, I think we're still going to be at around 1 year per day. And that this upcoming day, continuing the trend, will have roughly 2500 renders.

The slow development times are unfixable unless he either 1) Reduces the number of renders, instead of increasing them. 2) Manages to find someone else to help with renders or 3) Makes everything else as efficient as he can (translation/writing).

I don't think any of those are likely, but #3 is the best chance. Like my last post talked about.
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Can you split the above figures for Day 19 = Playable Day 12 between the three updates?
If you did then I suspect that most recent update will have shorter number of renders.

That is the slight element of positivism that I am clinging onto in the hope for future updates.
The next update for the first event for Day 20 = PD 13 won't tell us anything in itself.
But if the next few updates can be kept shorter and more streamlined, then maybe there is still hope.....
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
It COULD be the game of the era if it's finished. That doesn't mean it will be flawless, it just means it could be the best of its era. If you watch classic movies, they often don't hold up great to great movies of today, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a great movie for its era. AWAM's biggest downfall is that it will never be finished. Content wise I think there's a lot of positive things to point at, but the painfully slow development cycle leads to a likelyhood that it'll never be finished. That's what will keep it from being an all-time great.
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Hopefully it won't turn into a fiasco like Milfy City where he just stops and disappears like Icstor. At least L&P is still trying.
 
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jamdan said:
The individual update time, if we're going 1 update per event, doesn't matter that much. A lot of people won't have anything to play in these single event updates. So there is no point in downloading them.

What matters is if these single event updates, over the course of the entire day, speed up development time or not compared to the last few days.

A very informative review I ran across makes me think this is unlikely. Let's look at the numbers...

Day 19 contained roughly 2340 renders.
Day 18 contained roughly 1900 renders.
Day 17 contained roughly 1500 renders.
Day 16 contained roughly 1000 renders.

Notice a pattern? Each consecutive day adds several hundred renders.

Now, to be fair, let's look at the number of events. As the raw number of renders can be misleading.

Day 16 contained 9 events
Day 17 contained 13 events
Day 18 contained 12 events
Day 19 contained 13 events

So, the number of events are fairly even. So, what explains the ever increasing number of renders? Could if simply be bigger or more important events? I suppose it could, but that doesn't help the situation as I think you can assume, due to the progression of the game, future events will be bigger in general than the previous events.

So in the end, I think we're still going to be at around 1 year per day. And that this upcoming day, continuing the trend, will have roughly 2500 renders.

The slow development times are unfixable unless he either 1) Reduces the number of renders, instead of increasing them. 2) Manages to find someone else to help with renders or 3) Makes everything else as efficient as he can (translation/writing).

I don't think any of those are likely, but #3 is the best chance. Like my last post talked about.
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Pretty much hit all the main points squarely. #2 is the only way we will see appreciable increase in production rate. Just don't see it happening.:cry:
 
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Talcum Powder said:
I don’t see anal ever happening in this story. Happy to be wrong, but I just don’t get that vibe. I’m thinking nipple clamps and other bdsm elements are far more likely.
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Plus Patricia is pushing for Dylan to hookup with Marie during the Yoga event. For which the next event is the salon event on PD13, for which it is not mentioned Patricia will be present at.
 
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Talcum Powder said:
I don’t see anal ever happening in this story. Happy to be wrong, but I just don’t get that vibe. I’m thinking nipple clamps and other bdsm elements are far more likely.
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I would be SHOCKED if there was no anal. In 2021 anal is so common that it's basically a standard kink. A game without anal would be probably be unprecedented.
 
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lockerxx said:
dude we will get incest but not anal sex??? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:. it makes no sense.
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GingerSweetGirl said:
I would be SHOCKED if there was no anal. In 2021 anal is so common that it's basically a standard kink. A game without anal would be probably be unprecedented.
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I dunno. It’s a vibe thing. I’m just thinking that the male routes are all about the taboo of cheating, of incest, giving in to lustful impulses and losing control, causing shame and regret. The female route(s?) all seem to be about seduction and enticement with an ultimate goal of physical domination.

I don’t see anal in any of this. As you say GingerSweetGirl, it’s so common these days. I look at the 2nd side job and I think nah, anal is way too vanilla for L&P.
 
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Talcum Powder said:
I dunno. It’s a vibe thing. I’m just thinking that the male routes are all about the taboo of cheating, of incest, giving in to lustful impulses and losing control, causing shame and regret. The female route(s?) all seem to be about seduction and enticement with an ultimate goal of physical domination.

I don’t see anal in any of this. As you say GingerSweetGirl, it’s so common these days. I look at the 2nd side job and I think nah, anal is way too vanilla for L&P.
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I'm another who doesn't get an anal vibe with this VN, although I also didn't expect inflatable Sophia as a fulfilment of what passes for tween/teen norms these days, ["Oh Yeah, gimme those Mommee milkers," is a quote from elsewhere in F95, presumably from somone on the young side....at least I hope they're still young!], so who knows, can anal really be ruled out? It's very common, at least in 3D renders. Sometimes it seems almost obligatory. If it does occur, some things come to mind.

First, given past form, I would expect objections & not necessarily from the same fans who are anti-blackmail but possibly along the same lines, if it happens to Sophia. That's assuming it isn't performed by Aiden or Bennett, of course. If it does fall to one of those chaps there'll be a firestorm, (although I wouldn't care about that personally).

Second is the realism factor, which is normally lacking in the act's 3d depiction. Plenty of lubrication is required for a start, especially for those persons not habitually indulging in this kind of intercourse. Many illustrations show some discomfort for the receiver, if they show any at all. It is neither a quick, nor easy act & is equally painful for the giver. Men's organs are not made of iron, however hard they might become & the only people able to "give & take it up the arse" with relative ease are porn stars with a ton of experience.

Third, it's not something that happens that much in the early stages of a relationship, or in one which is not strictly approved by society like an extra-marital affair but it's the kind of thing more within the range of well-established couples. Someone treading on eggshells conducting a relationship, perhaps with a married woman, having clandestine meetings, often brief, IMO is unlikely to ask, "would you like it up the arse tonight darling?", or, "we've got 15 minutes, let's do anal."

Overall, I believe it to be a young man's fantasy, realisable through the 3D medium & that the majority who depict it have never done it in their lives, as confirmed by how it's shown. It has a lot of fans & they might well facepalm this post but I'd then assume that they also have never done it. Those who have will know that what I'm saying is true.

Cue a number of posts along the lines of, "WTF, I do it every night without lube.....", etc., etc.
 
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ancienregimele said:
I'm another who doesn't get an anal vibe with this VN, although I also didn't expect inflatable Sophia as a fulfilment of what passes for tween/teen norms these days, ["Oh Yeah, gimme those Mommee milkers," is a quote from elsewhere in F95, presumably from somone on the young side....at least I hope they're still young!], so who knows, can anal really be ruled out? It's very common, at least in 3D renders. Sometimes it seems almost obligatory. If it does occur, some things come to mind.

First, given past form, I would expect objections & not necessarily from the same fans who are anti-blackmail but possibly along the same lines, if it happens to Sophia. That's assuming it isn't performed by Aiden or Bennett, of course. If it does fall to one of those chaps there'll be a firestorm, (although I wouldn't care about that personally).

Second is the realism factor, which is normally lacking in the act's 3d depiction. Plenty of lubrication is required for a start, especially for those persons not habitually indulging in this kind of intercourse. Many illustrations show some discomfort for the receiver, if they show any at all. It is neither a quick, nor easy act & is equally painful for the giver. Men's organs are not made of iron, however hard they might become & the only people able to "give & take it up the arse" with relative ease are porn stars with a ton of experience.

Third, it's not something that happens that much in the early stages of a relationship, or in one which is not strictly approved by society like an extra-marital affair but it's the kind of thing more within the range of well-established couples. Someone treading on eggshells conducting a relationship, perhaps with a married woman, having clandestine meetings, often brief, IMO is unlikely to ask, "would you like it up the arse tonight darling?", or, "we've got 15 minutes, let's do anal."

Overall, I believe it to be a young man's fantasy, realisable through the 3D medium & that the majority who depict it have never done it in their lives, as confirmed by how it's shown. It has a lot of fans & they might well facepalm this post but I'd then assume that they also have never done it. Those who have will know that what I'm saying is true.

Cue a number of posts along the lines of, "WTF, I do it every night without lube.....", etc., etc.
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One way in my opinion of making an anal scene a possibility is the whole logic that - later down the road when Sophia is cheating and having sex with someone else. They might be in a situation where the guy does not have a condom and nor does Sophia. So in order to avoid risking the guy cumming in her vagina she or the guy suggests anal. I know one could also just pull out but that too requires skill and the risk would be there.

I agree with what you have said about anal. Prep work needs to be done ( Don't want to get into specific details but it's more than just stretching oneself out ) Hopefully L&P will take that into consideration if he has any anal scenes planned. Like maybe from a few days prior to such scene there could be instances of Sophia using fingers or toys to loosen up.

During the Ellie Sophia masturbation lesson. Sophia did mention how anal stimulation can also give an orgasm. And it is hinted that Sophia has done anal play in the past and she knows about it. So she is not completely new to it.
 
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ancienregimele said:
I'm another who doesn't get an anal vibe with this VN, although I also didn't expect inflatable Sophia as a fulfilment of what passes for tween/teen norms these days, ["Oh Yeah, gimme those Mommee milkers," is a quote from elsewhere in F95, presumably from somone on the young side....at least I hope they're still young!], so who knows, can anal really be ruled out? It's very common, at least in 3D renders. Sometimes it seems almost obligatory. If it does occur, some things come to mind.

First, given past form, I would expect objections & not necessarily from the same fans who are anti-blackmail but possibly along the same lines, if it happens to Sophia. That's assuming it isn't performed by Aiden or Bennett, of course. If it does fall to one of those chaps there'll be a firestorm, (although I wouldn't care about that personally).

Second is the realism factor, which is normally lacking in the act's 3d depiction. Plenty of lubrication is required for a start, especially for those persons not habitually indulging in this kind of intercourse. Many illustrations show some discomfort for the receiver, if they show any at all. It is neither a quick, nor easy act & is equally painful for the giver. Men's organs are not made of iron, however hard they might become & the only people able to "give & take it up the arse" with relative ease are porn stars with a ton of experience.

Third, it's not something that happens that much in the early stages of a relationship, or in one which is not strictly approved by society like an extra-marital affair but it's the kind of thing more within the range of well-established couples. Someone treading on eggshells conducting a relationship, perhaps with a married woman, having clandestine meetings, often brief, IMO is unlikely to ask, "would you like it up the arse tonight darling?", or, "we've got 15 minutes, let's do anal."

Overall, I believe it to be a young man's fantasy, realisable through the 3D medium & that the majority who depict it have never done it in their lives, as confirmed by how it's shown. It has a lot of fans & they might well facepalm this post but I'd then assume that they also have never done it. Those who have will know that what I'm saying is true.

Cue a number of posts along the lines of, "WTF, I do it every night without lube.....", etc., etc.
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This is a fair point. I've just assumed there would be anal because it's so common, but if we're looking at it strictly if it's believable within the confines of this story, then you make a strong case.

That said, I believe strongly that Sophia's corruption will go pretty far if you push the FW route to its extreme. While I don't expect gangbangs or DPs, I could see one or two scenes with Sophia attempting anal. The obvious choice is with Liam. But I could see her attempting it late with one of her other major LIs.

In my mind's eye, I think this game will look radically different by PD 25 than it does today.
 
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