VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Bane71]

Good day to all and Happy New Year. Let the coming year be kinder than the outgoing one. All peace and health.
It seems to me that the author is very free in dealing with one of the main characters of the novel - the social environment in which a number of significant events take place. Sometimes, he turns on the social environment (school students, students of the art class, etc.), then he simply turns it off (like a light bulb in a room). Perhaps this is also the source of serious logical inconsistencies in the narrative of the plot and Sophia's actions.
1. Beginning of the 2nd task. Dialogue between Sophia and Aiden. How likely is it that the students will not hear this conversation and see Sofia showing her panties to two of the students in the class? Negative, but the author abstracted himself from this, there are no students, or they are all deaf-blind and dumb ... and then, they reappeared when Sophia shows her panties to the whole class.
2. How likely is it that the school will not discuss the behavior of a beautiful, but strict teacher, who in 2-3 days turned into a sex bomb and constantly shows her body to students? Again negative. But the author turned off the social environment again. All around there are ideal teenagers and a teacher who wants to debauchery.
3. And if the author explains the absolute illogicality of Sophia's actions by the fact that everything is possible in the porn world, then how to explain the lack of reaction to these actions among the people around her.
4.
-Aiden is not a juvenile bully, but Professor Moriarty in childhood, constantly comes up with various ways to humiliate an adult experienced woman, to which she unquestioningly obeys.
- Sophia is a weak-willed, stupid, lustful wife and mother of two children, who throws the well-being of her family, reputation and life prospects into the pit and does not even try to resist him. (Refusal of Aiden's assignments does not lead to a broad development of the plot in this direction).
- Sophia's children are skillful manipulators who only dream after moving to San Alejo to fuck their own mother.
- The husband is blind and a donkey who works for the family like a donkey, but does not see the guy who licks his wife's crotch, being almost in front of his nose, point-blank. (Even Sam's peripheral vision couldn't help but notice.)
5. If the last renderer presented by the author is in the game, then this is generally a complete sur. The woman - teacher, spreading her legs, hides behind the table, the space behind him is visible and
left and right. Her head sticks out over the table and she is doing something under her skirt in front of everyone.
When a woman sits down in a skirt, she must bring her legs together - this is nature. If she spread her legs, then this is either for the administration of natural needs or in order to correct something under her skirt (or take off). Judging by the render, she is not wearing a bra and she took off her jacket. Those. shows his breasts to students behind a translucent blouse. I can't even imagine what justification is needed for such a pose in front of 20 pairs of pupils' eyes. If this is Aiden's requirement, then see above about the weakness of Sophia's stupidity and the social environment, which the author will probably turn off again at this moment.

))) What if there are no students in the class?

 

[Sabertooth__]

Good day to all and Happy New Year. Let the coming year be kinder than the outgoing one. All peace and health.
It seems to me that the author is very free in dealing with one of the main characters of the novel - the social environment in which a number of significant events take place. Sometimes, he turns on the social environment (school students, students of the art class, etc.), then he simply turns it off (like a light bulb in a room). Perhaps this is also the source of serious logical inconsistencies in the narrative of the plot and Sophia's actions.
1. Beginning of the 2nd task. Dialogue between Sophia and Aiden. How likely is it that the students will not hear this conversation and see Sofia showing her panties to two of the students in the class? Negative, but the author abstracted himself from this, there are no students, or they are all deaf-blind and dumb ... and then, they reappeared when Sophia shows her panties to the whole class.
2. How likely is it that the school will not discuss the behavior of a beautiful, but strict teacher, who in 2-3 days turned into a sex bomb and constantly shows her body to students? Again negative. But the author turned off the social environment again. All around there are ideal teenagers and a teacher who wants to debauchery.
3. And if the author explains the absolute illogicality of Sophia's actions by the fact that everything is possible in the porn world, then how to explain the lack of reaction to these actions among the people around her.
4.
-Aiden is not a juvenile bully, but Professor Moriarty in childhood, constantly comes up with various ways to humiliate an adult experienced woman, to which she unquestioningly obeys.
- Sophia is a weak-willed, stupid, lustful wife and mother of two children, who throws the well-being of her family, reputation and life prospects into the pit and does not even try to resist him. (Refusal of Aiden's assignments does not lead to a broad development of the plot in this direction).
- Sophia's children are skillful manipulators who only dream after moving to San Alejo to fuck their own mother.
- The husband is blind and a donkey who works for the family like a donkey, but does not see the guy who licks his wife's crotch, being almost in front of his nose, point-blank. (Even Sam's peripheral vision couldn't help but notice.)
5. If the last renderer presented by the author is in the game, then this is generally a complete sur. The woman - teacher, spreading her legs, hides behind the table, the space behind him is visible and
left and right. Her head sticks out over the table and she is doing something under her skirt in front of everyone.
When a woman sits down in a skirt, she must bring her legs together - this is nature. If she spread her legs, then this is either for the administration of natural needs or in order to correct something under her skirt (or take off). Judging by the render, she is not wearing a bra and she took off her jacket. Those. shows his breasts to students behind a translucent blouse. I can't even imagine what justification is needed for such a pose in front of 20 pairs of pupils' eyes. If this is Aiden's requirement, then see above about the weakness of Sophia's stupidity and the social environment, which the author will probably turn off again at this moment.

No offense, but the number of things I disagree with in this message are so many that I can't even begin to start explaining my disagreement. I would literally take quite a number pages for me to explain each and every point I disagree with.

 

[sergey matveev]

))) What if there are no students in the class?

go to the women's toilet and do what needs to be done.

 

[ancienregimele]

It's kind of funny and maybe even somewhat sad to see you still not understanding how bra sizes work even after it has been explained to you.
And your strong dislike for big boobs is pretty pathetic considering you're always just repeating the same thing over and over again when the topic of her boobs come up.

Stereotypical stubborn old man who refuses to learn.

I call it "set in my ways" & I'll carry on repeating it whenever I wish & when something triggers that reaction, despite what you or anyone else might say. I was probably doing a lot more than just ogling women's breasts long before you were a twinkle in anyone's eye. I have no strong dislike for big breasts, as several well-endowed girlfriends would attest. What I can't appreciate is what the Dev has done to the MC. I understand bust measurements & know perfectly well that breasts don't suddenly increase several sizes overnight, without implants. I was looking at the bra ads in catalogues when a man first went into space, so please don't confuse age with a lack of understanding.

Try not calling me pathetic or sad next time because I'm so old-school that I take it as a personal insult & especially don't call me stereotypical. If you read my posts properly, you'll see that I hate stereotypes & believe me, I'm far from that. I continue on this anti-air-bag theme because I want the Dev to read this & know that not everyone is a pubescent school-boy who has never quite left their mother's breasts behind & that there should be no further increase. I don't care if he hates pirates, or not.

 

[sergey matveev]

If there are no students in the class, then it makes no sense to hide behind the table.

 

[Jozef Minge]

I'm impatient for this update...

 

[1879]

Good day to all and Happy New Year. Let the coming year be kinder than the outgoing one. All peace and health.
It seems to me that the author is very free in dealing with one of the main characters of the novel - the social environment in which a number of significant events take place. Sometimes, he turns on the social environment (school students, students of the art class, etc.), then he simply turns it off (like a light bulb in a room). Perhaps this is also the source of serious logical inconsistencies in the narrative of the plot and Sophia's actions.
1. Beginning of the 2nd task. Dialogue between Sophia and Aiden. How likely is it that the students will not hear this conversation and see Sofia showing her panties to two of the students in the class? Negative, but the author abstracted himself from this, there are no students, or they are all deaf-blind and dumb ... and then, they reappeared when Sophia shows her panties to the whole class.
2. How likely is it that the school will not discuss the behavior of a beautiful, but strict teacher, who in 2-3 days turned into a sex bomb and constantly shows her body to students? Again negative. But the author turned off the social environment again. All around there are ideal teenagers and a teacher who wants to debauchery.
3. And if the author explains the absolute illogicality of Sophia's actions by the fact that everything is possible in the porn world, then how to explain the lack of reaction to these actions among the people around her.
4.
-Aiden is not a juvenile bully, but Professor Moriarty in childhood, constantly comes up with various ways to humiliate an adult experienced woman, to which she unquestioningly obeys.
- Sophia is a weak-willed, stupid, lustful wife and mother of two children, who throws the well-being of her family, reputation and life prospects into the pit and does not even try to resist him. (Refusal of Aiden's assignments does not lead to a broad development of the plot in this direction).
- Sophia's children are skillful manipulators who only dream after moving to San Alejo to fuck their own mother.
- The husband is blind and a donkey who works for the family like a donkey, but does not see the guy who licks his wife's crotch, being almost in front of his nose, point-blank. (Even Sam's peripheral vision couldn't help but notice.)
5. If the last renderer presented by the author is in the game, then this is generally a complete sur. The woman - teacher, spreading her legs, hides behind the table, the space behind him is visible and
left and right. Her head sticks out over the table and she is doing something under her skirt in front of everyone.
When a woman sits down in a skirt, she must bring her legs together - this is nature. If she spread her legs, then this is either for the administration of natural needs or in order to correct something under her skirt (or take off). Judging by the render, she is not wearing a bra and she took off her jacket. Those. shows his breasts to students behind a translucent blouse. I can't even imagine what justification is needed for such a pose in front of 20 pairs of pupils' eyes. If this is Aiden's requirement, then see above about the weakness of Sophia's stupidity and the social environment, which the author will probably turn off again at this moment.

In the end, it's just a game where everyone can play their fantasies if they want. I've said it before: soon every child in town will know what their pussy looks like. And she has a lot of interest in young cocks.

 

[sergey matveev]

In fact, "... it's just a game ..." is a very weak argument in any debate to justify poor product quality. I am ironic about porn - a world in which everything is possible. that is why the porn genre does not require even minimal intelligence, but the author swung at EROTIC NOVELLA, but very quickly slipped onto a meaningless toy with a low-quality script.

 

[ancienregimele]

Good day to all and Happy New Year. Let the coming year be kinder than the outgoing one. All peace and health.
It seems to me that the author is very free in dealing with one of the main characters of the novel - the social environment in which a number of significant events take place. Sometimes, he turns on the social environment (school students, students of the art class, etc.), then he simply turns it off (like a light bulb in a room). Perhaps this is also the source of serious logical inconsistencies in the narrative of the plot and Sophia's actions.
1. Beginning of the 2nd task. Dialogue between Sophia and Aiden. How likely is it that the students will not hear this conversation and see Sofia showing her panties to two of the students in the class? Negative, but the author abstracted himself from this, there are no students, or they are all deaf-blind and dumb ... and then, they reappeared when Sophia shows her panties to the whole class.
2. How likely is it that the school will not discuss the behavior of a beautiful, but strict teacher, who in 2-3 days turned into a sex bomb and constantly shows her body to students? Again negative. But the author turned off the social environment again. All around there are ideal teenagers and a teacher who wants to debauchery.
3. And if the author explains the absolute illogicality of Sophia's actions by the fact that everything is possible in the porn world, then how to explain the lack of reaction to these actions among the people around her.
4.
-Aiden is not a juvenile bully, but Professor Moriarty in childhood, constantly comes up with various ways to humiliate an adult experienced woman, to which she unquestioningly obeys.
- Sophia is a weak-willed, stupid, lustful wife and mother of two children, who throws the well-being of her family, reputation and life prospects into the pit and does not even try to resist him. (Refusal of Aiden's assignments does not lead to a broad development of the plot in this direction).
- Sophia's children are skillful manipulators who only dream after moving to San Alejo to fuck their own mother.
- The husband is blind and a donkey who works for the family like a donkey, but does not see the guy who licks his wife's crotch, being almost in front of his nose, point-blank. (Even Sam's peripheral vision couldn't help but notice.)
5. If the last renderer presented by the author is in the game, then this is generally a complete sur. The woman - teacher, spreading her legs, hides behind the table, the space behind him is visible and
left and right. Her head sticks out over the table and she is doing something under her skirt in front of everyone.
When a woman sits down in a skirt, she must bring her legs together - this is nature. If she spread her legs, then this is either for the administration of natural needs or in order to correct something under her skirt (or take off). Judging by the render, she is not wearing a bra and she took off her jacket. Those. shows his breasts to students behind a translucent blouse. I can't even imagine what justification is needed for such a pose in front of 20 pairs of pupils' eyes. If this is Aiden's requirement, then see above about the weakness of Sophia's stupidity and the social environment, which the author will probably turn off again at this moment.

As a proponent of occasionally somewhat lengthy posts myself, I appreciate the effort that has gone into putting your honest thoughts on screen. There are aspects that I agree with & some that I don't.

I agree that it took an enormous suspension of disbelief to play through the 2nd task, even allowing for whispering actors & ambient noise inside &/or outside the classroom. We just had to suspend disbelief & accept that all students were heads down, working diligently & not distracted by their teacher spending time whispering in the corner, although to be fair, the back row of the class contained only 2 scholars.

That the students have discussed the behaviour of their teacher is a given. We don't need to see or hear them. We also know that Zac told his mother about Sophia teaching braless. These students have not been shown as ideal but as a mixture.

As for Aiden being a young Professor Moriarty, maybe he is. He could be a wayward genius. Seriously, I posted years ago that I wished the blackmail had stayed with Bennett but his behaviour caused such an outbreak of affrontery that he was relegated to an almost invisible second fiddle.

Sophia is not so much weak-willed but frustrated. That she'll choose to put her marriage in jeopardy shows that she has a strong selfish streak. That's believable because nobody's perfect & we don't expect a St. Sophia. So what if Liam works too much? He works for his own promotion but also for his family & the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed. As to why she follows Aiden's instructions we know it's to protect her son & his friend. Schools in RL do very little about bullying, despite policy documents, verbal assurances etc., while the police don't want to deal with what they see as someone else's responsibility. These aspects are very believable, because they are horrible facts.

Sophia's children being manipulative & focussed on their mother in an unhealthy way, is something I agree with. I avoid the incest when I can, so don't have much of a problem with it.

Liam working like a donkey is only partly true because he gifts himself state of the art audio-visual equipment, takes off fishing, gambles etc., to redress the balance. This also seems credible to me. That he is blinkered when standing right next to his wife's would-be young lover has been discussed at length but I call it another case for a magnificent stretch of credulity on behalf of the readers.

Now I don't want to go through all the recently discussed teaser options, which have, as usual, mostly been plausible, if a bit far-fetched. We know from experience that L&P doesn't really give much away with these. I live in hopes that there'll be some kind of 'logical' explanation for why Sophia is in the peculiar situation & awkward pose we've been shown.

After all, that's why I'm still here after 4 years.....to see what happens next.

 

[DiddlySquat]

It's his teaser.

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Looking at Sophia's right leg stocking top we can see lace detail, looking at the left leg and stocking top no lace detail,
Is it because its the a more solid material, perhaps her panties that is already being pulled down that side ?
Cant be easy taking them off whilst in this position


or LP just didn't add the stocking top detail

 

[sergey matveev]

Apparently we went to schools at different times. In my time, the students, all the conversations of the teacher and the student, not related to study, listened very carefully. In addition, according to the renders presented, at the beginning of the 2nd task, Sofia was standing 1.5 - 2 m from Aiden and his comrade, there was nothing there to indicate that they were whispering. Judging by the images, they spoke out loud.
Since Zack told his mother about Sophia's behavior, and she only makes the situation worse with her further behavior, then the discussion of it should grow and reach both Dylan and the director, etc.
I'm not trying to engage in criticism, but some edge of rationality, it seems to me, should be present in the game to enhance the intrigue. Now the intrigue is only in how many people will fuck her and in what position. How deep will she fall into the hole that she is digging for herself (with the help of the author) ...
And let those who rush to the defense in the face of any criticism calm down. Everything is fine for their unassuming taste in the game, and the dirtier, the better (for them). So I don't argue with that ...

 

[Sabertooth__]

Apparently we went to schools at different times. In my time, the students, all the conversations of the teacher and the student, not related to study, listened very carefully. In addition, according to the renders presented, at the beginning of the 2nd task, Sofia was standing 1.5 - 2 m from Aiden and his comrade, there was nothing there to indicate that they were whispering. Judging by the images, they spoke out loud.
Since Zack told his mother about Sophia's behavior, and she only makes the situation worse with her further behavior, then the discussion of it should grow and reach both Dylan and the director, etc.
I'm not trying to engage in criticism, but some edge of rationality, it seems to me, should be present in the game to enhance the intrigue. Now the intrigue is only in how many people will fuck her and in what position. How deep will she fall into the hole that she is digging for herself (with the help of the author) ...
And let those who rush to the defense in the face of any criticism calm down. Everything is fine for their unassuming taste in the game, and the dirtier, the better (for them). So I don't argue with that ...

Umm just want to mention, you do know how much 2m represents in feet right. Google says 6.6 feet. That means enough distance that a Dwayne Johnson could be lying on the floor in between them.

Here's the image of where Sophia is standing.



This is just to show that you're the one talking without any rationality and saying as you wish.

You get to see an accidental upskirt of your teacher and the students decide that it is a matter to be reported or brought to the Director's notice. Really ???? What bunch of students do that. Students discuss these kind of things amongst themselves not with their teachers.

That's all I'll say. And hence I didn't say anything Directly to your previous message either. Because there is so much that is wrong. L&P really has been doing a decent job with the classroom tasks.
Could he have done better ? Ofcourse. There are minor flaws or better ways to carry out the scene. But nothing until now that completely throws logic out of the window.

 

[1879]

Apparently we went to schools at different times. In my time, the students, all the conversations of the teacher and the student, not related to study, listened very carefully. In addition, according to the renders presented, at the beginning of the 2nd task, Sofia was standing 1.5 - 2 m from Aiden and his comrade, there was nothing there to indicate that they were whispering. Judging by the images, they spoke out loud.
Since Zack told his mother about Sophia's behavior, and she only makes the situation worse with her further behavior, then the discussion of it should grow and reach both Dylan and the director, etc.
I'm not trying to engage in criticism, but some edge of rationality, it seems to me, should be present in the game to enhance the intrigue. Now the intrigue is only in how many people will fuck her and in what position. How deep will she fall into the hole that she is digging for herself (with the help of the author) ...
And let those who rush to the defense in the face of any criticism calm down. Everything is fine for their unassuming taste in the game, and the dirtier, the better (for them). So I don't argue with that ...

I'm a very realistic guy too, but there's only a limited amount of space for that in a game like this. Either they leave room in their imagination and play or they are in the wrong place.

 

[hzjujk]

My current speculation about the 4th Aiden task: The task must be both humiliating for Sophia and sexually arousing.
Humiliating so that the conviction to ask Morello for help becomes more important and sexually arousing so that Sophia
can decide to continue. Perhaps there is also a feeling of control over the event that convinces Sophia that she can
permanently defy Aiden.

The actual task in the school class will not be a very big event, so it will include a lot of pictures, because we
actually get to see 3 events here.

The little side event could happen in the school toilet while Sophia takes off her bra, so she prepares for her
appearance in front of her students. Sophia either overhears a few girls from her school class or a direct conversation
takes place. In doing so, she learns that the girls find their demeanor incredibly brave and sexy. And admire Sophia for
her good looks. That should take away from Sophia the fear of losing her reputation as a teacher. I can't say whether
more will develop from this side event later.

During the lesson she has to shorten her skirt so much by Sophia turning it inside out so that you can see the approach
of her stockings. The skirt then looks more like a very wide belt. Due to the small secondary event, Sophia will be able to
perceive the looks of the students and the whispers as sexually arousing. She will feel comfortable in her skin and in
her clothes. Aiden wants to touch Sophia, of course, and the player will have the choice to knock away Aiden's hand or not.
I can't say whether this will lead to a little power game in which Sophia lets Zac or Andre touch her, for example,
but not Aiden. I would consider that to be sensible for Sophia's self-confidence.

EDIT:
Maybe Sophia will have a choice. Either let Aiden touch her or lift her skirt and show her stockings to the whole class.

I don't think Morello suggests / they ask to visit his brother in prison again. Because then he would have to offer
something / pay her for it and if Sophia agrees she would be the whore that Morello does not want to see in her.
It will be something else from which both Sophia and Morello could benefit economically. Perhaps Morello hopes to
get access to Carl through Sophia and thus creates / promotes a route Sophia / Carl / Patricia.

Oh, the 5th event during sports lessons will certainly have its main focus on a scene in the school showers. Since the event with the caretaker, we have known that the school has such a facility.

I can also imagine that there will be an Aiden event on the weekend before the next school week. Aiden orders Sophia to a "topless" club. The event during physical education would then be the 6th event.

Otherwise, I wish everyone here a happy new year.

 

[Jozef Minge]

I replayed the 2-nd task. I could not understand what she my be doing behind that desk, beside remove her panties! Like I said before - when Aiden is call her she tell to the class to open a book on a page 38 and nobody see that she lift her dress and shows her panties to Aiden and Andre! Every form of adjustment will be very, very easy and this squat is not necessery at all! Also there is a short-hair blone girl, called Evelyn, who sit in first desk in the rightest column and if she is on school this day, she will see the entire Sophia squat technic!

 

[sophpa]

I think that this is the best time to show Sophia`s pussy. We already had many teasers: second shower time with Ellie, art-event, Nathalie`s massage (where we even saw Sophia`s butthole). I understand that L&P wants to create a special feeling about pussy, but this teasing already so predictable. I think that Aiden`s new task will be about panties off, maybe Sophia will bend over in front of all class and the kids (and the kids from this thread) will see long-awaited beauty. Or she bend over in front of right part of class that Aiden and his studs will see Sophia`s pussy. I don`t think that this event will be about vibro egg or something like that, it`s too dumb for L&P

 

[Dan5k74]

her tits look bigger than before?

her breasts often change, this is rather a feature of daz morphs

Yeah when she showed dylan her breasts they were big enough and round… in 0.150 they were a little small.. again in the teaser they are somewhat big. L&P should have that consistency.

The breast size has been decreased on Day 19. It was totally out of proportion from Day 17 onwards. So that was a welcome change that he made on Day 19.

I think during V 0.135, he replied to a comment that he has educed the size!

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Happy New Year everyone!

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I can't because L&P spoiled the look of my all-time favourite MC. At 36D she was quite eye-catching enough, IMO. I understand the bust measurement issue & to me that's how much she appears to have increased, hence my banging on about implants. I concede that she has become slightly more proportionate since the day she almost crowded Dylan out of the changing booth on her own but her measurements remain off-balance & it isn't something that can be ignored or escaped, except by terminating involvement with the VN. (I almost did & I'm guessing there are some who wish I had)!

We all make mistakes but IMO, this was far & away L&P's biggest. It almost ruined the whole thing for me because, i) the change is fundamental, ii) it doesn't look right, iii) it follows an unattractive, IMO, game stereotype & iv) it concerns a sexual aspect of the character, which for me, makes it different from other seriously strange character morphs we've had, such as Dylan aging 4 years in 1 day.

There was no reason why characters in the story couldn't have been obsessed with Sophia's breasts without a need to make them so big.

And so you are going to post about it repetitively, ad infinitum.....

 

[bayrischman]

This is impossible since the entrance to the classroom is directly to the right of Sophia and leads to the desk.
I think rather of maybe Aiden asked her to take off her panties during class and, here, that would be what she's about to do.
She's hiding from the students, I think.

No offense, but the number of things I disagree with in this message are so many that I can't even begin to start explaining my disagreement. I would literally take quite a number pages for me to explain each and every point I disagree with.

sabertooth pur

 

[BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM]

The breast size has been decreased on Day 19. It was totally out of proportion from Day 17 onwards. So that was a welcome change that he made on Day 19.

Amazed how that doesn't put off the "but muh immersion" fans.