momojean

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I don't know about you, but if my salary is lowered, it would be normal for me to lower my quality at work, unless you like being exploited.:cool::cool::cool:
But if you are not serious at work, if you often arrive late at the office, if you are often absent with multiple reasons. In this case if your boss reduces your salary or gives you a warning, you will certainly pull yourself together and work more seriously for fear of losing your job, the source of your only income :cool::cool::cool:
 

Mr goose

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But if you are not serious at work, if you often arrive late at the office, if you are often absent with multiple reasons. In this case if your boss reduces your salary or gives you a warning, you will certainly pull yourself together and work more seriously for fear of losing your job, the source of your only income :cool::cool::cool:
I agree with you bro. :cool: :cool: (y)(y)
 

jamdan

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Quality of work isn't LP's issue. At least not in the way people may think. Back when the game was "lower quality" the updates were quicker and more consistent. However, when he decided to change his rendering style, render in higher resolutions and now add animations, the pace is slowing to a crawl.

Ironically, or maybe not, LP wanting to make the game highest quality possible is one of the main reasons this game will probably never be completed.

I think he views this as a hobby, not his job. So he takes leeway to tinker around and experiment rather than trying to produce a consistent product.
 

Yamakasi20

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I don't know about you, but if my salary is lowered, it would be normal for me to lower my quality at work, unless you like being exploited.:cool::cool::cool:
huh? L&P is no ones employee, so that doesnt apply at all. Plus, when you conduct your own business, you dont have a salary, you have an income. So everyone needs to understand, we are not paying L&Ps salary, we are providing income for an endeavour he conducts and we believe in (less and less).

When the endeavour starts failing (income drops), you have 2 options: Step up your pace or Quit. Those are the only 2 things L&P can do if income drops: Step up your pace or Quit.

Now theres a third scenario, where his income grows, and weve already witnessed what that leads to... Slower and slower development time.

So I regret to inform you, my fellow VN fans, but in this case... only proof (and i mean it, its proven!) we have till now is that income is directly proportionate with development time.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
 

Alley_Cat

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Christine picks her best friend up and takes her to their favorite diner to cheer her up a little bit. Dylan joins them.
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Is it just me, or is Ellie moping around a lot if you play the bonus storyline? In my playthrough she's pretty much happy with everything - her grades are high, she was just made head cheerleader, had her first orgasm, etc.
 

AlfredBundy4

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IMO, technology advances wont be an issue. The most important thing is the intriguing story. You can have a great erotic novel without even one picture. AWAM belongs to the extremely small number of games that I am able to follow the storyline. The main thing is that I can not imagine L&P spending his life doing renders of Sofia and Dylan. At one point the game will be abandoned living many many fans unsatisfied. My personal estimation is that we are not very far from that. :cool: :cool:
This is what I've said for a while now. Zero chance this VN is ever finished in a way that seems natural or satisfies those paying for it. Almost 100% chance it's outright abandoned and any non-abandonment ending will involve a hasty finish where Sophia goes from the ultimate cocktease to a mega-slut.

And this is true because it has to be based on his BS claims of a planned timeline and his schedule. It's a meme here but it's a meme because it's true: at his pace it cannot possibly end until 2030 or later.
Now, I'd contend that it's because there is no plan. He's making money and over fist so why rush it? That's what seems blatantly obvious to me and has for a while.

However, the why isn't what even matters and many here (myself included) have gotten caught up in that debate. The real point that needs to be stressed and highlighted is that even if he doesn't abandon it, the story literally cannot be finished in this decade. It will have a TRUE, NON-EXAGGERATED development cycle of over 15 years.

15 years for a Renpy VN. Actual AAA videogames don't take 15 years. So...put 2&2 together, guys. Take his personality, add in his atrocious development cycle and put 2&2 together.

It's a ...(rhymes with "SLAM"). How can anyone not see that at this point? That even if he doesn't just abandon it that it won't be done in this decade.
That timeframe + his awful personality = abandonment. He has no desire to finish it. He wants your money until you stop giving it...and then he'll abandon it.
 

AlfredBundy4

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Has L&P ever mentioned selling the game to someone else? Honestly think that would be best for both parties here. He can cash out, and we get competency because you can only go up.
I sincerely think this is the titles only hope. Sell it on to another developer.

That or a group rises up to just take it from him. He'd have zero recourse in any logistical sense if someone did. There are companies like Patreon that wouldn't stop them from collecting from fans for it and what could he do by way of legal action? He uses mostly pre-made assets to make a porn VN in a freeware engine (Renpy). He himself has used other IP in his title without permission and good luck even finding the creator if they use even a tiny bit of identity obfuscation.

So, sell it or I hope a group just...takes it. Start where he left off (don't straight-up steal his work/code) and make your own from there. Fans/patrons will see it and move to you when they see equal quality and a release schedule that isn't comically inept to the point of being an obvious grift.

So if I were L&P, I'd just sell it. It seems clear to me that he doesn't want to do this beyond collecting money. So, sell it or risk a group of angry fans just taking it.
 

Alley_Cat

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I sincerely think this is the titles only hope. Sell it on to another developer.

That or a group rises up to just take it from him. He'd have zero recourse in any logistical sense if someone did. There are companies like Patreon that wouldn't stop them from collecting from fans for it and what could he do by way of legal action? He uses mostly pre-made assets to make a porn VN in a freeware engine (Renpy). He himself has used other IP in his title without permission and good luck even finding the creator if they use even a tiny bit of identity obfuscation.

So, sell it or I hope a group just...takes it. Start where he left off (don't straight-up steal his work/code) and make your own from there. Fans/patrons will see it and move to you when they see equal quality and a release schedule that isn't comically inept to the point of being an obvious grift.

So if I were L&P, I'd just sell it. It seems clear to me that he doesn't want to do this beyond collecting money. So, sell it or risk a group of angry fans just taking it.
That's been my concern for a while - there are at least two games I support, with nicer and more approachable devs. And while the progress in games like DDoS is just as slow, the dev of that game (BWG) actively encourages fan art, and discussion, and is all around pretty awesome. So it's pretty easy to forgive him if for a few weeks he doesn't feel up to working on the game. That said, when an update does come out, a $1 tier subscriber gets the update immediately. And a public release is made here a short while later.

And did I mention he distributes his Daz files freely? For those of us that get bored between the long waits between updates?
 

devilsnaresid

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April 1st week is the release ; for 2 yrs previous 2nd updates of the yr were all out during fool's day .. so this yr won't be different .. mostly 1 st week of april likely .. but the next update will be a faster one since renders are already 80 % ... L & P if you are reading this ,,, we are waiting :)
 
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