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Something like this can be called amazing animation.
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- Jul 20, 2019
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When has L&P ever apologised? Given a long-winded explanation sure. But apologised?
I think you'll find it's been the past 4+ years, not months.
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3-4 months are usually for at least 4-5 minutes animation with high quality.
Not for some seconds from 10 angles.
NLT Media dropped his last update, an update that took 2 weeks and has 126 (63 two different quality) animations.
At some stage this developer needs to understand the difference between his perceived perfection and just getting the job done.
At some stage this developer needs to understand the difference between his perceived perfection and just getting the job done.
Thats the problem and always has been. And controlling.
- May 10, 2017
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L&P is the john romero of porn game. if you don´t who he is check Daikatana on youtube.
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Basic business and marketing thinking is that in L&P and any other dev's case where you have patrons and people that you constantly make promises to deliver and fail, you need to adjust the pace and quality balance to keep your results, number and reputation going fine and keep the potential of growing. Let's say what he says is true and such one animation only would take 3 months to be done, why the fuck would a patron wait 3+ month for one animation to be done, and instead in 3 months he could have delivered 2 mid sized updates with maybe a bit "less quality" animations but at least he delivers and keeps the business going in the right path.. until he maybe gets bigger and gets more and more income (which he already does) and hires more people then he can of course set the bar higher and higher each time and keep the balance for his promises in place. Of course if he takes 1 year he could get a super duper cool animation but in the end it will be marked he took a fucking year to deliver it....
- Nov 1, 2017
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worth the wait, best of the best, shame most don't care about animation and prefer L&P didn't add it.
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if the animation of L&P are on this level, then yes, its worth the time we waiting. if not its not, simple as that.
- Aug 23, 2020
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And yet there are still some people that wonder why this thread gets so negative and hostile towards L&P. What a tremendous douche bag. Just the highest caliber asshole you can be. He doesn't give a fuck about anyone, pirate or patron, he's simply a self righteous asshole. How dare anyone question him? How dare a patron express fair frustration? Everyone is beneath him and he holds them all in contempt. Fuck you, I'm the best, you're just lucky to have my game to play. You'll eat your gruel and you'll like it.
Edit- I'll temper this a little, because I know this thread has been heated recently, but his response is really bad. Like, we need to call a spade a spade when it comes to a dev that can't even treat their patrons with respect. It's one thing to totally hate pirates and to come on here and chastise us, most of us don't pay for the game (or have stopped paying) so it's understandable to be a little antagonistic towards us. But when you can't even treat your patrons with respect, why should anyone hold back and treat the dev with respect? When a patron expresses frustration in a direct, but fair, way and the dev responds with sarcasm and sidestepping the concern, we should absolutely acknowledge that crappy behavior and highlight it. That sort of behavior needs to be publicized because it's a direct reflection of the dev as a business person. You would want to know if the owner of your local restaurant was a jerk whenever a customer complained that their food was served cold, so calling L&P out for this only seems fair.
Edit- I'll temper this a little, because I know this thread has been heated recently, but his response is really bad. Like, we need to call a spade a spade when it comes to a dev that can't even treat their patrons with respect. It's one thing to totally hate pirates and to come on here and chastise us, most of us don't pay for the game (or have stopped paying) so it's understandable to be a little antagonistic towards us. But when you can't even treat your patrons with respect, why should anyone hold back and treat the dev with respect? When a patron expresses frustration in a direct, but fair, way and the dev responds with sarcasm and sidestepping the concern, we should absolutely acknowledge that crappy behavior and highlight it. That sort of behavior needs to be publicized because it's a direct reflection of the dev as a business person. You would want to know if the owner of your local restaurant was a jerk whenever a customer complained that their food was served cold, so calling L&P out for this only seems fair.
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IF WE HAVE TO WAIT 4 MONTHS FOR AN UPDATE CAUSE OF AN ANIMATION THEN WE DON'T WANT IT, WE WERE GOOD WITHOUT THE ANIMATION BEFORE AND WE'LL BE FINE WITHOUT IT NOW. NEXT UPDATE DO NOT ADD ANIMATION.
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Lust caught deleting posts
Patron page went from a chill place to old patrons voicing concerns and the leader deleting posts that don't fit the narrative.
I'm not sure I'll pledge anymore myself..
Patron page went from a chill place to old patrons voicing concerns and the leader deleting posts that don't fit the narrative.
I'm not sure I'll pledge anymore myself..
exactly this! he fixed everything, started working properly and getting fast results for him to fucl it up again with the animation crisis lol
QUICK UPDATE > ANIMATIONS
No. No it will not. People want the vehicle. What good does all the bells and whistles do if you cant drive it.
And now that person has declared he is a professional animator and L&P deleted his post.
The plot thickens
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Thanks for sharing. So now L&P is trying to shut those people up who are exposing his untruths about the work on animations. He couldn't sink much deeper.Lust caught deleting posts
Patron page went from a chill place to old patrons voicing concerns and the leader deleting posts that don't fit the narrative.
I'm not sure I'll pledge anymore myself..
- Aug 23, 2020
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WOW, just when you think things couldn't get more underhanded we get this. This game could be a runaway success, but L&P's behavior and reputation are going to hold it back and eventually result in its abandonment.Lust caught deleting posts
Patron page went from a chill place to old patrons voicing concerns and the leader deleting posts that don't fit the narrative.
I'm not sure I'll pledge anymore myself..