VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[maybes4]

So, to summarize (sort of mixing my thoughts and what I find more relevant from yours):

• Aiden's 4th task is good. As usual, he takes things one step further than expected and we can see how hot the result is but, on the contrary to what you said, Sophia recognized that she had actually enjoyed the task (we can certainly see how corrupted she is at this point). However there are a couple things that make no sense here:
  • Aiden's becoming too important in the story, way more than Patricia, which makes no sense. I understand patrons are probably asking for more tasks but, like it or not, this path is starting to be out of place.
  • It turns out that Sophia doesn't want Dylan to have to deal with Aiden not even with the help of his friends from the soccer team (I think he said that himself) but she allowed him to fight an adult in the previous update like it was nothing..
  • Based on how fast the sex part of the tasks is escalating, within the next few tasks we should end up seeing HJ/fingering/BJ and eventually penetrations. Is L&P going to turn Sophia into a slut/whore? Just having the chance to do that would be really disappointing, that would make AWAM a porn game and it doesn't feel like that.
• Reducing the amount of renders is good knowing where the main problem of the game is (we all know). In some aspects I've noticed some similarities with the first updates of the game when L&P wasn't so focused on secondary details and there were faster transitions.
• Animations are good but should be used in the right place. The 3some was only a way to add sex in order to keep people happy but at the cost of quite some effort as many renders were necessary to create these animations.
• Leaving all the previous stuff away, the size of the updates is going to be reasonable from now on, although this change from part 1 to part 2 is a little confusing at first.
• For some reason L&P keeps trying to open paths.. Why should we even have the choice to forgive Logan? Either Ellie forgives him or not depending of the story, period.
• As time passes I feel more and more convinced that at the end of the game (in 20 years time more or less) we'll see a final dual incest 3some where Dylan will take Ellie's virginity.
• Like it or not, v0.160 isn't far from a normal update in terms of size (maybe a bit smaller than 0.150 IIRC) and has also taken the usual time to be released so.. I guess you know what I mean, more fancy stuff (including the gallery, which is really welcome) but it looks like L&P is still going to take more than 1 year to move the story 1 day ahead . So welcome to the new AWAM.

Regards

Aiden must become important because when it comes to these tags rape blackmail, he is the most suitable character. And of course in next few tasks, Sophia will have to be giving HJ Bj... After all, this is a adult game. All of that buildups serve this purpose. At this point of the story, i guess the next task is about sophia french kissing with aiden and realizing he is a good kisser.
The purpose of choosing elie forgiving logan is kinda predictable: she will fall in love again then wont involve in the incest relationship with her brother.

 

[Alley_Cat]

5 years for 20 playable day. Are you kidding me you must updated fastest or everybody will lost interest in it.

We're only at Playable Day 13, not 20, because of the time jump of a week

 

[Mark FuckerBerg]

The first sex scene on the Filthy route was a while back with Neil and Amber

Wait what. Who's Neil and Amber? And what scene are u talking about. Tell ploxxx. I think I have missed that one

 

[arl2017xxx]

kinda weird that none of her naughty actions inside the class room never got video'd and put on the net, guess cellphones in this world are just used for communication only

 

[Alley_Cat]

Wait what. Who's Neil and Amber? And what scene are u talking about. Tell ploxxx. I think I have missed that one

You know ... the neighbours. Parents of Sam and Jules. After the football game on PD 7, Neil and Amber fuck in the backyard, and Sophia can spy on them.

 

[heatherwendy]

Am I doing something wrong? I imported my part 1 file and started part 2 and it had maybe 4 minutes of game play with a convo between sis and bro on a swing and then it said end of chapter and took me to the title screen.....that can't be it....right?

mine was even worst, she woke up and tjen meet with the principal ,with Dylan, then it took me to the title screen...sad

 

[mario ferrari]

really bad updates

 

[heatherwendy]

Here

Thank you for taking the time to show me this. Sad thing is after all if the trouble of getting it set up , my update only had her waking up and going to the principals office with Dylan, then that was it, hope I didnt do something wrong , as it was quick update. but thanks again ~

 

[heatherwendy]

I don't understand if this is a joke or not, so please bear with me.

I started the Part 2 by importing 0.150 save.
Then there were 5 pictures and "To be continued".

What is going on?

Glad to hear I am not the only one. Mine was her getting up and going to the principals office with Dylan ,then teaching a class with nothing happening, then to be continued .Kind of sad to be honest ~

 

[heatherwendy]

Some kind of speedrun

Thats the same thing that happened to me ~ thought I did something wrong..but looks like thats the update for the lesbian route~? sad to be honest~

 

[heatherwendy]

Anything for
1.Sophia and Patricia in a lesbian sense
2.Sophia and Ellie in a lesbian sense
3.Ellie and Dylan

I wish, the lesbian route had nothing to offer in this update, sad to report~

 

[Skylaroo]

Your comments are exactly why I disagree with all those who say L&P is 'milking' this. If a dev is in it for the money, he would shoot for zero delays and even more content, because that would get him more patrons.

Milking is generally seen as prolonging the support beyond what's needed. This can be in form of constant extra delays in updates and/or purposely delaying/slowing the wanted content progression to make the players wait longer. Milking is not maximizing the number of patrons by giving them what they want.

In an ideal world, it should've been a win-win scenario for the dev and players. Dev would create what the players want in return for patron support. If the dev managed to maintain quality update/progression, then naturally the patron support would also continue for a long time. Dev continues to get money, players continue to get satisfying updates. Win-win for both.

This is why I think AWAM is a missed opportunity, the fact that it's a 3.5-star rated game. Yes, 2k patrons are a lot (more than many of what I considered as better games), but imagine if this game is actually a 4.5-star rated game that it could've been. Suddenly L&P could easily be seeing 5k+ patrons. The market is there for the taking, but the product is not up to scratch.

For what it's worth though, I don't think L&P is milking the game either (at least for now), but I definitely think that the development process could've been vastly improved. It should never take 5 months of development and only get half a day story for a specific branch as the result.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

Some harsh, but constructive criticism. The animations had to be the worst idea I've ever seen for this VN. I never liked the idea when I first heard about L&P doing them and now after seeing the result it only reinforces my opinion of how bad an idea it was.

We got the idea that Aiden and Andre were vile characters just by the actions they took in the beginning of the game. Aiden forcing Sophia to remove her bra in front of him outside class and Andre groping her in class were enough to show that. We didn't need to see a forced rape of Jennifer. And unfortunately, there is no way to avoid it if you want to stay on the path of Sophia doing the 12 tasks. Not only that but the animation of the sex scene was ridiculous. Did we really need to see several angles of Andre's dick going back and forth? There was nothing remotely erotic about it or special. You could remove that scene completely from the game and it wouldn't affect the story at all.

The time spent on doing the animations could have been put to better use in developing any one of the story lines; for example, the new one with Dylan and Ellie caring more about each other as siblings. Or giving those who chose the boarding school route something to see during the update besides an immediate "the end". The story was doing fine with just quick frame overlaps to simulate movement. Animations were not needed. Not only were they a colossal disappointment for what was hyped, not only did they in no way move the story forward in any meaningful way, but they also actively took away time that could have been spent on writing out more scenes for each of the story branches and speed for getting the updates out.

I hope L&P learned a lesson from this. If he's so insistent on including them in his VN then he should wait until he completes it and wants to do a remastered version where he can add all the special effects he wants.

 

[Ranger1994]

I'm, confused, said I need to finish part 1, but the version I have of part 1 (.150) ends with to be continued. Is there another update to part 1 that I don't have?

 

[davsun]

Guys go back some pages and you will see a lot of things about the update and how to play

 

[Zireael]

Initially, I was depressed when I learned about the next update, however, as always with this game.
But, usually the game itself heals from this, albeit not completely.
Only this time, the elaborateness of the animations leaves an unusually pleasant impression.
The perfectionism with which the author approaches history and art is quite naturally reflected in the animated effect of sex, which makes you immerse yourself and believe in what is happening.
This is the first sex scene for me, since the path of fidelity is absolutely not interesting to me. (This is not about Sofia's involvement in this, for those who haven't played yet)
Whether the author does not want or is not able to speed up the production of this game - I do not know. But I wish him success in any case, because. his product is unique and original, and also beautiful.

I believe that in future updates, the author will be able to more narrowly release updates aimed at a certain vector of revealing Sofia's relationship with the characters.
I mean, for example, the whole day with daughter and her friends on the beach, where by chance the main character meets Natalie, and all the ensuing scenes from these events.
I think it would be easier for him to get a response from those people whose fetishes would be fully satisfied.
Even if it will mean a cyclical "dissatisfaction" of those whose interests are not affected by fetishes. A longer wait, but with a tangible output for a part of the audience and its influx. In any case, we wait forever, it will not get worse.
Such is the sacrifice in the name of progress.

 

[mulerider]

Looking at it in one way, task 4, HAS NOT really been completed yet.
Aiden made it very clear that Sophia has to let ALL the guys in the classroom see and feel her tits.

And considering L&P said in the past that task 4 is where Sophia would be given a way out of the tasks,
it sounds like that's the real reason why she has to meet Aiden at his gang's hangout.
Either Aden or even Sophia herself is going to make the other one an offer/deal in exchange to get out of the tasks.
She was thinking to herself about the meeting while she was getting dress for the meeting with Aiden.

It only sounds realistic for this to happen, let face it Sophia is a smart woman, she's not dumb by any means.
Yes she might get lucky and have Zach not say anything but she has to know that the whole class seeing her in
her panties is going spread though the whole school quicker than a wild forest fire. And Aiden is smart
enough to know this as well.

"IF" this option is made and Sophia agrees to it, I see a real hard bad time for Sophia.
1) we now see Aiden and Andre are worse than we first thought.

2) Aiden is NOT going to give up the remaining 8 tasks plus give up watching her having to let the other guys
see and feel up her tits. Aiden is going to want to get alot in return if he has to give up that much.

3) I don't think Aiden will be there alone, most likely Andre and maybe one or two others, but Andre for sure,
and lets not forget that Andre is PISSED for being slapped and the whole class knowing about it
and he told Sophia she would pay for it.

 

[菊花献给党]

Please stop complaining, v0 160 will be the fastest update in the next decade

 

[Alley_Cat]

I wish, the lesbian route had nothing to offer in this update, sad to report~

This entire day has nothing to offer for players of either the Ellie or Patricia routes. And only a little to offer players of the Sam route.

Looking at it in one way, task 4, HAS NOT really been completed yet.
Aiden made it very clear that Sophia has to let ALL the guys in the classroom see and feel her tits.

And considering L&P said in the past that task 4 is where Sophia would be given a way out of the tasks,
it sounds like that's the real reason why she has to meet Aiden at his gang's hangout.
Either Aden or even Sophia herself is going to make the other one an offer/deal in exchange to get out of the tasks.
She was thinking to herself about the meeting while she was getting dress for the meeting with Aiden.

It only sounds realistic for this to happen, let face it Sophia is a smart woman, she's not dumb by any means.
Yes she might get lucky and have Zach not say anything but she has to know that the whole class seeing her in
her panties is going spread though the whole school quicker than a wild forest fire. And Aiden is smart
enough to know this as well.

"IF" this option is made and Sophia agrees to it, I see a real hard bad time for Sophia.
1) we now see Aiden and Andre are worse than we first thought.

2) Aiden is NOT going to give up the remaining 8 tasks plus give up watching her having to let the other guys
see and feel up her tits. Aiden is going to want to get alot in return if he has to give up that much.

3) I don't think Aiden will be there alone, most likely Andre and maybe one or two others, but Andre for sure,
and lets not forget that Andre is PISSED for being slapped and the whole class knowing about it
and he told Sophia she would pay for it.

You appear to be forgetting (or actively ignoring) the meeting with Morello. From my understanding, he already has plans to take Richard Murphy out of the equation, thus reducing most of Aiden's perceived power. And with Richard Murphy out of the equation, Sophia could simply threaten legal action.

 

[mulerider]

This entire day has nothing to offer for players of either the Ellie or Patricia routes. And only a little to offer players of the Sam route.

You appear to be forgetting (or actively ignoring) the meeting with Morello. From my understanding, he already has plans to take Richard Murphy out of the equation, thus reducing most of Aiden's perceived power. And with Richard Murphy out of the equation, Sophia could simply threaten legal action.

that maybe true "IF" your doing a route with Morello in it, but there are some of us (myself included) that DON'T have
Morello in it, if Morello is not in it, Morello can not help