VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I don't know if it is the lighting or not but is this wall floating on the roof?
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[passionatefanlust]

L&Ps answer to Randy

New teaser

Also fresh update, he got assfucked again.

 

[ancienregimele]

Here we go again with the definitions. Can you explain what a porn game is then? I though if the genre include: "Incest, Lesbian, Masturbation, MILF, Oral sex, Romance, Voyeurism, Shota" it might e porn game. I would add that the last scene was pretty rape'ey, hence it might be a porn game. Or are you saying that it is currently not a porn game since there is no sex (outside marriage)?

OK, a porn game is something people play in order to excite lust. Specifically their lust & perhaps give them something to masturbate to. It may have story to tell but the aim is to introduce sex & judging by the types of games available, the storyline(s) always take second place. That goes for films, novels etc. It doesn't mean the stories are all bad, (though many are) but sex & lots of it, is essential.

Erotic literature & in this case, an erotic VN, should contain a well-written plausible story, or several, during which sex & sexual situations will occur. They should happen when they appear to be believable events within the context of those stories.

Putting it simply: porn=sex with a story, erotic literature=a story with sex. [AND the 2 can & do overlap].

That's my definition, though I'm sure there are fans who could do better &/or those who'd take issue with it. All I'm going to say is, they're welcome to try along with the fact that I wanted something which would take less than 5 minutes to think up & set down.

 

[ancienregimele]

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Sophia comes to the hangout place again where of course Aiden's not alone like he promised. She still has the option to listen to her female intuition and get the hell out of there.

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So. it's official, Sophia has taken leave of her senses. It was clear in the update that this was the outfit for the meeting, whether she'd asked for Don Morello's help or not. It was why I questioned the choice & wondered if she'd received more information that was still to be revealed to the viewers. I suppose this could still be the case.

It seems that realism is about to vanish again. If anybody genuinely predicts that this bunch would settle for a talk, or a boob show, given that location, the numbers present & the garments that resemble underwear.... I'll be polite & just say, "unbelievable".

Will we be expected to believe, for instance, that Aiden has total control over his gang? Will we be required to think that this young wannabe is able to limit the action to exactly what he permits? If there's any more flesh to be revealed, that would only lower his ability to do so. I also note that he has more lawless types to keep in line, than when we last visited this venue.

Now, let me be clear, if rape, or something close to it happens in this VN, I would not be amongst the morally outraged because it's fiction, just an erotic story for adults & I've seen it all before in other games. It would not make me pack up & leave or bombard the comments with any form of indignation.

What does bother me, a lot, is Sophia's decision to wear a provocative & easily accessible outfit, when she knows who she's going to meet. Realism? It's also the case that there is no way, unless they hear or see her coming & all stay quiet, that she would not know that there was a bunch of blokes around the bend. Gangs make noise. Why would she, having coated herself in honey, walk straight into the bear's den? Are we going to get a shocked MC, when she comes upon this crew?

If Sophia, after particular player choices, has been given the nod that Morello's soldiers will be there, she still can't be sure exactly when they'll arrive.

I had thought that before we reached any situation of this kind that the game would have been abandoned. It's too early for a gangbang, we all know that. I await with curiousity the arcane literary methodology by which L&P will avoid it.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

So. it's official, Sophia has taken leave of her senses. It was clear in the update that this was the outfit for the meeting, whether she'd asked for Don Morello's help or not. It was why I questioned the choice & wondered if she'd received more information that was still to be revealed to the viewers. I suppose this could still be the case.

It seems that realism is about to vanish again. If anybody genuinely predicts that this bunch would settle for a talk, or a boob show, given that location, the numbers present & the garments that resemble underwear.... I'll be polite & just say, "unbelievable".

Will we be expected to believe, for instance, that Aiden has total control over his gang? Will we be required to think that this young wannabe is able to limit the action to exactly what he permits? If there's any more flesh to be revealed, that would only lower his ability to do so. I also note that he has more lawless types to keep in line, than when we last visited this venue.

Now, let me be clear, if rape, or something close to it happens in this VN, I would not be amongst the morally outraged because it's fiction, just an erotic story for adults & I've seen it all before in other games. It would not make me pack up & leave or bombard the comments with any form of indignation.

What does bother me, a lot, is Sophia's decision to wear a provocative & easily accessible outfit, when she knows who she's going to meet. Realism? It's also the case that there is no way, unless they hear or see her coming & all stay quiet, that she would not know that there was a bunch of blokes around the bend. Gangs make noise. Why would she, having coated herself in honey, walk straight into the bear's den? Are we going to get a shocked MC, when she comes upon this crew?

If Sophia, after particular player choices, has been given the nod that Morello's soldiers will be there, she still can't be sure exactly when they'll arrive.

I had thought that before we reached any situation of this kind that the game would have been abandoned. It's too early for a gangbang, we all know that. I await with curiousity the arcane literary methodology by which L&P will avoid it.

Now, let me be clear, if rape, or something close to it happens in this VN, I would not be amongst the morally outraged because it's fiction, just an erotic story for adults & I've seen it all before in other games. It would not make me pack up & leave or bombard the comments with any form of indignation.

Would you not consider what happened to Jennifer being raped or close to it? She said no, but Aiden threaten her little bro if she didn't go through with it.

 

[Old Dog]

Now, let me be clear, if rape, or something close to it happens in this VN, I would not be amongst the morally outraged because it's fiction, just an erotic story for adults & I've seen it all before in other games. It would not make me pack up & leave or bombard the comments with any form of indignation.

Would you not consider what happened to Jennifer being raped or close to it? She said no, but Aiden threaten her little bro if she didn't go through with it.

I do consider that rape and yes it bothers me in a VN game or any game and I tend to stay away from them,my choice.

 

[ancienregimele]

Now, let me be clear, if rape, or something close to it happens in this VN, I would not be amongst the morally outraged because it's fiction, just an erotic story for adults & I've seen it all before in other games. It would not make me pack up & leave or bombard the comments with any form of indignation.

Would you not consider what happened to Jennifer being raped or close to it? She said no, but Aiden threaten her little bro if she didn't go through with it.

Some do, I'm aware, but in the end it was sex with a strong element of coercion, IMO, which I base on the lack of any physically strenuous fightback. It was treading a fine line.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I do consider that rape and yes it bothers me in a VN game or any game and I tend to stay away from them,my choice.

That does concern me after he did say that no rape would be in the game, but IMO that scene clearly played out like rape to me. It wasn't kicking, screaming, or kidnapping rape, but it still fits the definition.

 

[CSK92]

Its a novella of erotic, perhaps. After all the time, it is kind of clear that the game was never intended to be a sex game. Its a game about dialogs and innuendo and choices.
I think the dev was more ambitious than what can be delivered. To me the tags are all confusing because if you look at incest, you will not find much on it.
The black mail part is mostly a tease without any action. So you are waiting for over 6 years to get some action.
I think there are some games that want to tell a story, a real story but are lost in a direction. So you end up with lots of dialogs to support an outcome.
Not sure if there is a scene for the museum, but i said yes, lets meet up. Never happened.
To me, the game is a let down. If it ever will be finished, it will probably not have a lot of sex.
Even the story ark with the mafia boss could have been something, but it seems that mafia bosses are actually nice people. Very understanding people. So no luck there.
Again, some teasing but thats about it. But i realized early on that i am not the audience for that game. Especially if you are looking for some fapping action. So maybe its fine after all.

Welp, You answered all of my many other reasons LOL

 

[ancienregimele]

That does concern me after he did say that no rape would be in the game, but IMO that scene clearly played out like rape to me. It wasn't kicking, screaming, or kidnapping rape, but it still fits the definition.

I don't think it was L&P's intention to portray a rape. He even introduced that old cliched element of the recipient 'enjoying' the experience. I saw it as a scene in which Sophia could get an idea of her own likely fate, if she continued with the tasks & provide a definite justification, in her mind, for seeking help from the Mafia. What could possibly commend this course of action otherwise?

 

[Alley_Cat]

May I advise to the developer that a DOG model be created? I'm experiencing trust issues with Sophia's family because she doesn't have a pet. I understand that it may take him a year to complete it, but fuck it, it will give it a realistic approach like animation.

Don't know about a dog, but in a conversation with Alyssa Sophia admits to liking cats, but Dylan is allergic.

Given that PD 19 = Tuesday, and Alyssa next appearance in the game is that Tuesday, and L&P himself describs this as a "lesbian sex(ual)" scene, and finally that Alyssa won't have appeared in game for approx 6-7 days (from memory) and thus will have missed a lot of the faster corruption that other potential LI's will have received in that time as the speed of corruption has noticeably increased in the last couple of days. For all those reasons I am convinced that it is Sophia and Alyssa.

In fact I think all SIX of those sex / sexual scenes will involve Sophia, albeit potentially spread across many different routes (so you will need multiple saves to get them all. Otherwise L&P could have talked about the "first " hetero sex scne to be the one in the last update of Jenn and Andre / Aiden.

So any sex scenes between the likes of Ellie/Logan and Ellie/Julia should be additional bonus scenes and not the six scenes that we expect include Sophia. That is assuming we can still take L&P's statement last November 2021 at face value.

Alyssa is due to return on PD17, which is a Tuesday. PD19 is a Thursday

is lesbian path any good?

The Ellie/Patricia content is far ahead of anything on the Dylan or Sam routes

 

[mulerider]

She goes there only if she completed the 4th task.
Then there are 2 previous events that *could* influence what is gonna happen in this event with Aiden:

1. whether she intervene or not in the bonus scene
   • day20_Sophia_prevented_Andre_Aiden_having_sex_with_Jen (intervene) or
   • day20_Sophia_saw_Aiden_Andre_with_Jen_having_sex (stay out of this)
   • not clear why he chose to use 2 different variables when the two are mutually exclusive but I diverge...
2. whether she asks help to Morello or not (and based on the previous choice that could include Jennifer, who is not there)
   • day20_Sophia_asked_Don_Morello_for_help

André will be still pissed for the slap, Aiden for the possible intervention during the bonus event.

The first one *could* probably set the tone of some dialogues, the second one will probably determine the outcome of the event especially if Morello's boys show up. And for example the choice it is mentioned to proceed with the meeting or not might be conditioned to the fact that she has an ace up her sleeve with Morello. Pure speculation but it's just to give an example of how they can influence this event.

Now it seems that this could be the 5th task, something could happen if she decides to meet them.
Or, as usual, Aiden may ask something to have fun with the others and then give her a task for the next time either in school or elsewhere. At the moment everything is open.

It's listed as "meeting Aiden", so it could go either way, he didn't listed it as "5th task" to avoid spoilers or it's just the meeting with some "side action".

I agree, this meeting can go alot of different ways. For myself I don't have that completely unrealistic
Morello in any of my routes. So I'm looking at ......

Sophia dressed like that

No help to show up

Andre pissed of about slapping him, and maybe more pissed off if Sophia interfered
with their threesome/rape

Aiden not alone, it's him, Andre, and 7 others

If, and that's a BIG "IF", if L&P tries to make this meeting even 10% realistic,
there is no way Sophia can leave this meeting in a good way

 

[Talcum Powder]

Some do, I'm aware, but in the end it was sex with a strong element of coercion, IMO, which I base on the lack of any physically strenuous fightback. It was treading a fine line.

It was non-consensual sexual intercourse. In other words, a rape. It’s not a fine line. It’s a big fat line and the scene crossed it with plenty of room to spare.

i’m not putting a moral judgement in whether it’s ok to have that in the game or condemning anyone for their like or dislike/disgust. But don’t give us that “fine line” bullshit.

 

[mulerider]

Some do, I'm aware, but in the end it was sex with a strong element of coercion, IMO, which I base on the lack of any physically strenuous fightback. It was treading a fine line.

I and my wife both would agree that sex though blackmail/coercion is a fine line, yes she could have said "NO",
granted her little brother might have gotten beaten, but she still could have said NO

 

[coffeeaddicted]

Welp, You answered all of my many other reasons LOL

Glad to be of service.
Though i think the game is nice but only for teasing. Mostly. I am probably not into erotic, at least not in a game.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I and my wife both would agree that sex though blackmail/coercion is a fine line, yes she could have said "NO",
granted her little brother might have gotten beaten, but she still could have said NO

But we don't know if it was going to be a simple beatdown by Aiden. If you replay the scene or look at the screenshots, Aiden said, "I may forget to call someone." Morello claims that Aiden's uncle put some of his men behind bars. So what does Aiden have on Jenny's bro that after she said no, then it went to let us get this over. Was she trying to keep her brother out of jail, and Aiden is using that as Leverage? Either way, she could have said No again, but we already know Aiden's history and his lust for power and control, and his uncle's God-like power with the legal system to keep him out of trouble.

Spoiler: Aiden, Jennifer, and Andre - Rape?????

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[Dr.SigmundFap]

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[Lord_Xanatos]

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