VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[lockerxx]

Playable day 15

• Ranch event, probably all day long(hopefully sex scene between Sophia and Patricia).

oh yes.dammit i am sure it will have animations

 

[Old Dog]

oh yes.dammit i am sure it will have animations

I hope that your Patricia points are at least at 14 and they have a good relationship

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I enjoy reading most people's opinions even when they differ from mine but I do agree with you that L&P does sail very close to the red line.

Thank you - and that was the point I was trying to make. I first realised it with the Apostles in the 2nd side job but gave him the benefit of the doubt as the first time. For it to happen a second time, and I remember you asking him the question about forced sex previously, made it clear to me that it is no accident and that it was a deliberate tactic used by L&P.

I am glad you realised that was the bit I was trying to emphasize.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

oh yes.dammit i am sure it will have animations

And that is the one plus side about the poorly planned last update.

Despite what I have said before about not wanting animations generally, not wanting them specifically for tertiary characters, at least he has now made the plunge and hopefully they (i.e. L&P and his secret unnamed animator) have got used to what works and how to fit them in with L&P's render style, then the plus side is that, hopefully, we will get awesome renders and animations of Sophia having sex with Patricia.

 

[Pigeon Milking]

And you don't think it's okay for bad deeds when the main character is punished, so in any games there is a choice), or people play the way they like, I think if you play Sofia and want to play a perverted woman, or just go and tease everyone a little, it's your personal choice. not an L&P solution, it just gives a wide range of possibilities.
But I can say again that waiting for updates for my route at such a pace is, of course, complete shit, with this approach, updates should be even faster by a lot.
For example, how many rpg games there are choices, both good and bad, in fact, in this game the only game mechanics is the choice of what to do, there are no other aspects of gaming, so still the element of choice is very important, I don't see the point in criticizing others for doing stupid things from the point of view and getting for this is a punishment)))

 

[Pigeon Milking]

In my version of the mass effect, this could not have happened in principle, but there was such a choice and opportunity.
And somehow it didn't trigger me.

 

[lockerxx]

I hope that your Patricia points are at least at 14 and they have a good relationship

i got many saves

 

[Old Dog]

i got many saves

I have 5-6 so far I think

 

[palmtrees89]

You mean Tyler?

I believe that's him, yes. Actually seems more douchy than I remember, but oh well. Can't be picky at this point I guess, lol.

 

[lockerxx]

I have 5-6 so far I think

i don´t have any save about the first job with the old people .

 

[Old Dog]

i don´t have any save about the first job with the old people .

I got rid of the 2nd job save but I had to split the Alyssa/Julia/Ellie saves into two and also had to keep Aiden in to keep Alyssa in

 

[Jack Adams]

It could well be that this game is about to "jump the shark" but if & when it does, it will become no more than just the longest running & slowest everyday story of a neighbourhood merrily shagging MILF. [Those who know the origins of the phrase "jump the shark" will know what happened to "Happy Days" after that ludicrous event]. That will be the beginning of the end for Sophia as a 'believable' character & the VN's transformation from outstanding to run-of-the-mill, IMHO.

Much of what you say here makes sense if the internal power dynamic in Sophia remains unchanged. If she has a formative moment in which she tells herself that she can't change the circumstance, but can change her internal control over her actions this story can be redeemed. This would require a rationalization sequence in which she tells herself that what she is doing is not bad for the reasons she formulates.
This would shift her character from a hero to a villain as has been done in 19th century literature, and in 20th century comic books (heroes have obstacles to overcome, and villains have their reasons). She would then have power over her actions because she has aligned her paradigm with those actions. However, if L&P takes this route Sophia would become a dark character that initiates and strongly defends her actions she participates in. This is in opposition to the helpless slut victim who is simply acquiescing to the demands of others. I would personally find this plot direction interesting in the spirit of, "How far will you go?" However, I am sure that several others would find this turn-in-character horrifying, and leave.

 

[armion82]

The day we get content with adult characters will be celebrated like the 4th of July in the US.

For me that would be characters like DeShawn, Mr. Bennett, Janitor Clark, Morello brothers, Neil, the dude from Sophia&Pat's club scene which I forgot the name of..uhhh There's prolly more but it's been so long since any of them appeared in the game they slipped my memory.

Sadly there is way more chance the old gents to get some action soon,than any of the folks you mention.
Poser_Voyeur you mention that all promised sex scenes in next days should be with Sophia,because the scene with Jennifer/Andre/Aiden was not into the roadmap.My guess is the scens was not into the list because there is no imporant charcater involved.The important characters are the ones that can gain points-Ellie,Dylan,Patricia and Sam.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Sadly there is way more chance the old gents to get some action soon,than any of the folks you mention.
Poser_Voyeur you mention that all promised sex scenes in next days should be with Sophia,because the scene with Jennifer/Andre/Aiden was not into the roadmap.My guess is the scens was not into the list because there is no imporant charcater involved.The important characters are the ones that can gain points-Ellie,Dylan,Patricia and Sam.

Yes - those 4 are from memory the top 4 characters in both the two favourite character polls that L&P has run. I also tend to add Alyssa and Aiden as they came 5th and 6th in the last character poll from memory. If you then added either Julia or Nathalie to those half dozen.

So given that expect that Dylan I expect to come later on, personally I a hoping that those first six scenes are going to be Sophia with (in rough order): Patricia, Sam, Aiden, Ellie, Alyssa, Julia or Nathalie.

Until recently I would nt have included Aiden in that list, but scenes with him and Sophia have escalated in the last couple of days. If it is not Aiden I don't know who how the 2nd hetero sex scene is with. It could be Zac but I dodn't think he is quite there yet. That is just my opinion, spitballing based on the limited information we have so far.

 

[armion82]

Yes - those 4 are from memory the top 4 characters in both the two favourite character polls that L&P has run. I also tend to add Alyssa and Aiden as they came 5th and 6th in the last character poll from memory. If you then added either Julia or Nathalie to those half dozen.

So given that expect that Dylan I expect to come later on, personally I a hoping that those first six scenes are going to be Sophia with (in rough order): Patricia, Sam, Aiden, Ellie, Alyssa, Julia or Nathalie.

Until recently I would nt have included Aiden in that list, but scenes with him and Sophia have escalated in the last couple of days. If it is not Aiden I don't know who how the 2nd hetero sex scene is with. It could be Zac but I dodn't think he is quite there yet. That is just my opinion, spitballing based on the limited information we have so far.

My guess
lesbian scenes
1-Patricia/Sophia,unless he wants to play the bad guy and instead give us Patricia/her freind
2-Sophia/Ellie or Ellie/Julia
3-Ellie/Julia or Sophia/Elly
4-Sophia/Alyssa or Sophia/Nathalie
hetero scenes-I seriously doubt we will get 2 hetero sex scenes with Sophia on same day
any 2 from bellow
Ellie/Logan
Sophia/Sam
Dylan/Amber
Dylan/Christine

 

[FullyAnimated]

If it is not Aiden I don't know who how the 2nd hetero sex scene is with.

My money is on Andy from the partner swapping proposal young couple.

 

[ancienregimele]

Much of what you say here makes sense if the internal power dynamic in Sophia remains unchanged. If she has a formative moment in which she tells herself that she can't change the circumstance, but can change her internal control over her actions this story can be redeemed. This would require a rationalization sequence in which she tells herself that what she is doing is not bad for the reasons she formulates.
This would shift her character from a hero to a villain as has been done in 19th century literature, and in 20th century comic books (heroes have obstacles to overcome, and villains have their reasons). She would then have power over her actions because she has aligned her paradigm with those actions. However, if L&P takes this route Sophia would become a dark character that initiates and strongly defends her actions she participates in. This is in opposition to the helpless slut victim who is simply acquiescing to the demands of others. I would personally find this plot direction interesting in the spirit of, "How far will you go?" However, I am sure that several others would find this turn-in-character horrifying, and leave.

I've seen it done twice, (that is the 2 that I remember, there will have been more, I'm talking last century here), as far as erotic stories go. One was a novel, the other a film. During one shocking scene in the movie, the protagonist shot & killed one of her tormentors & this was relatively early in the story. As for the novel, the protagonist turned out to be capable of becoming a victimiser, having previously been the victim. Both were pretty extreme stories at times. I stuck with them & enjoyed them for what they were but I never saw the leading characters in the same light as at the start.

This all goes to the centre of Sophia's personality & I don't want to have such a radical change. If Sophia's persona becomes too dark, I'll try to stay positive & will message L&P to thank him for having found a way to break my AWAM addiction. I will probably have gone by the time he gets the chance to ignore it.

 

[WW_Porn_Star]

We don't want Jackerman's animations.We even don't want animations.
We want what is happening in Jackerman's animations.At least to some extent.
Imagine Sophia/Amber/Patricia/Alyssa doing something like this

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I think the guy you responded to was thinking more of the bestiality videos he does thinking that's what I was wanting in the game. You nailed it with the Mothers warmth and southern hospitality videos. If those scenes were in this game they would most likely be the highlights of the game so far. This is not going to happen but what I was referring to in my original post was that considering how long it takes L&P to release updates, imagine if Jackerman released a 2-5 minute video for each update. Jackerman could probably advance the story quite a bit with his videos as well.

Wishful thinking but if it did happen it would be a positive thing imo.

 

[ToshinRaizen]

Do you think the thugs will come back and attack Sophia, and Dylan will come to her rescue ?!
(With a variation, if Patricia has intervened before)

the 2 that grope sofia? i choose to go with the other women with gun

 

[ancienregimele]

I dont see whats unrealistic. Sophia has been forced to wear no bra, show her underwear to the class, model in a C thong, allow a student and her blackmailer to play with her nipple and breast, and now show her panties, reveal her breasts to a student, and let that student touch her breast.

These actions would surely land ANYONE on a list...hmmm...what's the name? Oh yes, Megan's list/law. Similarly, these actions could ruin her career both now and in the future. Finally, she could lose parental rights to her own children.

Yet people are supposed to believe she's doing all of this things to keep Dylan from a few blackeyes ? She even admits through each task that she's aroused and even excited at some of the depravity. The blackmailing is the provocation Sophia needed to ascend into pure sexual objectification. Hell she's even masterbating her students in her tutor job...

Sophia has a role in all of this and her own sexual desires are also influencing whats happening. All of her outfits are NOT accidental and it is NOT a mistake that she's becoming more "open" to all of these acts. Again, that is why this is Chapter 2 - a new Sophia.

Progress is certain but so too is blue balls. Just the nature of L&P. And say what you want about L&P being a selfish greedy POS (because he's all of those things and more), but his renders are top class and the progression of Sophia into complete slutdom has been done pretty well IMO.

If only liar scumbag L&P would actually hire an animator then the updates wouldnt be short and far between, but he is a liar and incapable of sharing one dollar so the updates will continue at snail's pace. Nonetheless they'll like remain pretty darn good (hopefully).

But I agree this game has transcended from GREAT to GOOD for me. Oh well

It depends on whether the player wants a slut Sophia or not. I don't, not least because it will signify that this is 'just another game', albeit the slowest within living memory. It's been on this trajectory for some time but if my expectations do turn out to have been too high, I put that down to the way it started, the quality renders, stated aims of the Dev etc.

As for the meeting, I believe something sexual has to happen, so cue HJs/BJs for Aiden & possibly Andre, in the view of an awestruck gang, unless Aiden has such control that he asks them to leave, just as it's getting interesting. Sophia will be thinking along the lines of, 'so big', 'never had to handle 2 before', 'why is this turning me on?', or some such tosh.

At last I'm beginning to see the exit door from this addictive saga but time will tell, (I think....).