mulerider

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Well, maybe 95%. For those that don't take Morello's offer, there still is the "uncomfortable solution" upcoming. What solution to the tasks that could be more uncomfortable than owing the Mob a favour, that's a different issue.
I went back and left Morello completely out of it, IMO the whole Morello deal was
just as or even more unrealistic than the Dylan twist.
 

Alley_Cat

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I went back and left Morello completely out of it, IMO the whole Morello deal was
just as or even more unrealistic than the Dylan twist.
I would say pointless more than unrealistic. Why accept Aiden's blackmail in the first place only to opt out of it later? By choosing to play the Dylan route in the introduction and not sending him to boarding school, you're essentially choosing for Sophia to become a degenerate, worthless slut. Which is perfectly fine if that's how you choose to play. Like if you're playing the bonus storyline and choose to forgive Logan, turning Ellie into a slut.
 

hmc15

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What is the "Twist"?
Some dumb plot twist whereby Dylan was working with Aiden in an elaborate scheme. I think Aiden was supposed to help Dylan hook up w/ Sophia further along the tasks.

What a terrible twist that would've been. Much better storyline that Aiden is a genuine sadistic deliquent. And Dylan has some weird oedipus complex mostly because he's failed with every girl his own age. Much better story than...a couple of kids schemed to see Mom/Milf tits
 

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I went back and left Morello completely out of it, IMO the whole Morello deal was
just as or even more unrealistic than the Dylan twist.
Morello will be an ALTERNATIVE to Aiden which is very necessary. Instead of satisfying demands of a little brat Sophia will work directly w mafia. Her body (and mind) will be extorted either way.
 

ancienregimele

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I would say pointless more than unrealistic. Why accept Aiden's blackmail in the first place only to opt out of it later? By choosing to play the Dylan route in the introduction and not sending him to boarding school, you're essentially choosing for Sophia to become a degenerate, worthless slut. Which is perfectly fine if that's how you choose to play. Like if you're playing the bonus storyline and choose to forgive Logan, turning Ellie into a slut.
I play the Aiden route but if Sophia was to become a "degenerate, worthless slut" as a result of it, this would surgically extract the eroticism & the fun from the situation. I would liken it to the incest being practiced in an alternate dimension, where this was not taboo but the expected, everyday behaviour of well-adjusted families. Sophia needs to retain her inner self & do stuff against her better judgement. This is the erotic kink of having a degree of power over a beautiful, intelligent, sophisticated woman. Eventually she needs to get through the whole situation & come out the other side, corrupted perhaps but not a degenerate.

Just as I struggle to find any eroticism in the incest routes & am only just on the perimeter of understanding the appeal, after several years, so there are misconceptions around regarding the blackmail. There are those who enjoy the degeneration into slobbering, on demand HJs, BJs, fucking etc, of course but if Sophia was to become just another mindless fuck-toy, as per the MCs of many other games, this would be a step too far for me. It's why I've deleted so many games & I've junked a lot, because they're repetitive, boring, stereotyped, unrealistic, immature, badly written & disappointing for a fan of adult eroticism, however delightful the appearance of the characters might be.

Presently, I'm concerned about two issues, the first of which is the disappearance of Aiden for c5 years. AFAIC, he's gone. There's no way any storyteller can expect to maintain the pace of tale with such a gap. [I'm fully aware this doesn't just apply to the blackmail, in fact almost all the storylines that interest me are in a similar hiatus]. If the game is still here in 5 years, I'll be very surprised. That's if I'm still here, of course.

Secondly, there's the "uncomfortable solution" to the blackmail, which can only ever be an issue if AWAM survives. Currently, we're meant to believe that enlisting the Mafia & being in long-term debt to them is a "comfortable solution." Other games I've played have encompassed murder, whether by a main character, or procured, or acquiesced to by them. This would also completely destroy the whole of AWAM, for me, whether I opted for such a choice or not. As I stop playing anything with bestiality in it, even when avoidable, (because it's an image that lingers in the mind), so it is when an MC becomes involved in murder.
 

Ryuji

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It more or less makes sense by story, flirting with some guys is mandatory to be able to start the lesbian route (you don't have to do anything sexual with them) because that leads to the scene with Patricia which is arguably the trigger for her and Ellie's route.

But already after that and once their routes have been started, it has not been necessary to flirt again with guys to continue, it was only at the beginning.
I do understand that but even then I still think the way the flirting goes is a little too much, even considering Patricia you should just do it when you are with her as a way to get her interest, and not when you are alone or with someone else(the use of "doesn't make sense" may have been a little too much).

In the end, I say those things mostly because I am a little mad that this is one of the fell games where you are a woman and can go a route other than slut (I know that there are other ones but they are few), or the men in the game are at least decent instead of every man you pass by looks at you and wants to bang you and they are very Chad like and hands-on, so mostly its because I want a lesbian game in a normal environment were its not just woman, and the man act "normal" and I can go either just woman, man or both.
 

Kazanovaromeo

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Excuse me, I finshed 0.15 version and successfully loaded it in Part 2 but all I get is she getup in day 20 drink coffe go to school finish the class go to home sit on the couch in the living room ..............to be continued , End of the update after many months
in the discussion they said in lesbian route with Patrishia and Elli there is nothing for them in part 2 for the moment , SO is that is the case or there is something wrong in my download.
 
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Alley_Cat

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I play the Aiden route but if Sophia was to become a "degenerate, worthless slut" as a result of it, this would surgically extract the eroticism & the fun from the situation. I would liken it to the incest being practiced in an alternate dimension, where this was not taboo but the expected, everyday behaviour of well-adjusted families. Sophia needs to retain her inner self & do stuff against her better judgement. This is the erotic kink of having a degree of power over a beautiful, intelligent, sophisticated woman. Eventually she needs to get through the whole situation & come out the other side, corrupted perhaps but not a degenerate.

Just as I struggle to find any eroticism in the incest routes & am only just on the perimeter of understanding the appeal, after several years, so there are misconceptions around regarding the blackmail. There are those who enjoy the degeneration into slobbering, on demand HJs, BJs, fucking etc, of course but if Sophia was to become just another mindless fuck-toy, as per the MCs of many other games, this would be a step too far for me. It's why I've deleted so many games & I've junked a lot, because they're repetitive, boring, stereotyped, unrealistic, immature, badly written & disappointing for a fan of adult eroticism, however delightful the appearance of the characters might be.

Presently, I'm concerned about two issues, the first of which is the disappearance of Aiden for c5 years. AFAIC, he's gone. There's no way any storyteller can expect to maintain the pace of tale with such a gap. [I'm fully aware this doesn't just apply to the blackmail, in fact almost all the storylines that interest me are in a similar hiatus]. If the game is still here in 5 years, I'll be very surprised. That's if I'm still here, of course.

Secondly, there's the "uncomfortable solution" to the blackmail, which can only ever be an issue if AWAM survives. Currently, we're meant to believe that enlisting the Mafia & being in long-term debt to them is a "comfortable solution." Other games I've played have encompassed murder, whether by a main character, or procured, or acquiesced to by them. This would also completely destroy the whole of AWAM, for me, whether I opted for such a choice or not. As I stop playing anything with bestiality in it, even when avoidable, (because it's an image that lingers in the mind), so it is when an MC becomes involved in murder.
Well we're only at task #4 and my understanding is that Aiden already expects Sophia to expose herself to any male that demands it. Without it counting as a task. So at this rate Sophia may as well be completely "free use" by task #12. Most of my arguments against this outcome didn't anticipate the game to lose the "class" it's meant to have so quickly, like I didnt anticipate the direction the 2nd side job has taken.

But yeah, I don't believe asking Morello for help is a "comfortable" solution. That would be not accepting the tasks in the first place and getting help from Carl, who so far just seems to be helping for shits and giggles, not an undisclosed future favour.

Which just comes down to the argument everyone makes when someone complains about an event: if you don't like it, simply don't play it. I've never seen how Sophia could remain the smart, sophisticated woman I believe her to be by playing the Dylan route and accepting Aiden's tasks, so I don't play the route.
Excuse me, I finshed 0.15 version and successfully loaded it in Part 2 but all I get is she getup in day 20 drink coffe go to school finish the class go to home sit on the couch in the living room ..............to be continued , End of the update after many months
in the discussion they said in lesbian route with Patrishia and Elli there is nothing for them in part 2 for the moment , SO is that is the case or there is something wrong in my download.
Correct. For those on the Ellie and Patricia routes, there's no content worth playing this entire playable day. Currently there's only about a minute of content.
 

ancienregimele

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Well we're only at task #4 and my understanding is that Aiden already expects Sophia to expose herself to any male that demands it. Without it counting as a task. So at this rate Sophia may as well be completely "free use" by task #12. Most of my arguments against this outcome didn't anticipate the game to lose the "class" it's meant to have so quickly, like I didnt anticipate the direction the 2nd side job has taken.
Yes, that was all a bit of a surprise, (not a pleasant one) & seemed to go against the grain of how the route had been written up to that point. There's often a fine line between straightforward porn & erotic writing. I saw this as yet another nod to the tweenage schoolboy fanbase but didn't comment at the time because AWAM's descent into immaturity & stereotyping has now become noticeable to more fans than just the likes of me. If L&P is "rushing things" as per the unnecessary gang HQ meeting, I wish he would redirect such an impetus to providing some chunkier, faster updates of core storylines so that ALL fans could benefit.

L&P could re-establish the "class" anytime he chose, IMO but the whole project seems to be travelling in the opposite direction. Why he's decided to put the class on hold, we can only guess at but once again, I've got a fairly good idea. As for the 2nd side job, it's not just that I dislike shota but the sequence reads as though a different Dev had written it. Who'd have thought I'd be impelled to go back to the 1st side job, which is one of the most unrealistic strands of the VN, IMO?
 

Kazanovaromeo

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I play the game Lesbian route with Elli and Patrichia and I like it until now, but I read in other games forums that it changed from "A Wife And Mother" to be "A Wife And Son", So is there any fatal problem in her son route or it is just a matter of different point of views.
 

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Excuse me, I finshed 0.15 version and successfully loaded it in Part 2 but all I get is she getup in day 20 drink coffe go to school finish the class go to home sit on the couch in the living room ..............to be continued , End of the update after many months
in the discussion they said in lesbian route with Patrishia and Elli there is nothing for them in part 2 for the moment , SO is that is the case or there is something wrong in my download.
Confirmed about Patrisha and Ellie, I'm doing the same route...
 
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ancienregimele

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I play the game Lesbian route with Elli and Patrichia and I like it until now, but I read in other games forums that it changed from "A Wife And Mother" to be "A Wife And Son", So is there any fatal problem in her son route or it is just a matter of different point of views.
It hasn't had a change of title. Some time ago Dylan, the son, was made an official 2nd MC, since when we've enjoyed or endured depending on POV, a lot of Dylan, including his occasional POV & side stories. [Despite which many Dylan fans complain when any other characters take the spotlight]. Some fans would, perhaps cynically, suggest that AWAM should be retitled but it hasn't happened....yet.
 

Kazanovaromeo

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what is the rules of the games in these forums,Meaning I found some games in the forum but cannot find others like " A University of Problems and College Kings" , Or how I can find them here.
 

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what is the rules of the games in these forums,Meaning I found some games in the forum but cannot find others like " A University of Problems and College Kings" , Or how I can find them here.
When you search just make sure you're not just searching the thread you're in, change it to search everywhere.

https://f95zone.to/threads/university-of-problems-v0-9-5-extended-dreamnow.65957/
https://f95zone.to/threads/college-kings-2-ep-1-v1-0-0s-undergrad-steve.63177/
 
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I do understand that but even then I still think the way the flirting goes is a little too much, even considering Patricia you should just do it when you are with her as a way to get her interest, and not when you are alone or with someone else(the use of "doesn't make sense" may have been a little too much).

In the end, I say those things mostly because I am a little mad that this is one of the fell games where you are a woman and can go a route other than slut (I know that there are other ones but they are few), or the men in the game are at least decent instead of every man you pass by looks at you and wants to bang you and they are very Chad like and hands-on, so mostly its because I want a lesbian game in a normal environment were its not just woman, and the man act "normal" and I can go either just woman, man or both.
I understand you, I am a lesbian and I only play this game because of the lesbian routes precisely because of Ellie and Julia's route.

I don't really remember much since it's been more than a year since I did that part (maybe that's why it doesn't bother me so much), and I haven't played the game for months since the last update lasted about 2 minutes or less for those who only played the lesbian route and who knows how many months will have to wait to be able to have another lesbian scene.

But as I said it's only at the beginning, once I started Ellie's route I haven't flirted with a man again and for me it was worth it to have pressed CTRL when I had to do that, because Ellie's scenes and the last one with Jules are very good.

Here the bad thing is not knowing very well what will happen with the routes, that brat has had much protagonism to the point that sometimes it seems like a second mc ruining many things with his presence, I just hope they don't force it on Ellie's route.
 

Ryuji

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I understand you, I am a lesbian and I only play this game because of the lesbian routes precisely because of Ellie and Julia's route.

I don't really remember much since it's been more than a year since I did that part (maybe that's why it doesn't bother me so much), and I haven't played the game for months since the last update lasted about 2 minutes or less for those who only played the lesbian route and who knows how many months will have to wait to be able to have another lesbian scene.

But as I said it's only at the beginning, once I started Ellie's route I haven't flirted with a man again and for me it was worth it to have pressed CTRL when I had to do that, because Ellie's scenes and the last one with Jules are very good.

Here the bad thing is not knowing very well what will happen with the routes, that brat has had much protagonism to the point that sometimes it seems like a second mc ruining many things with his presence, I just hope they don't force it on Ellie's route.
I loved the interactions between Ellie and Julia as well especially because you can read their emotions and what they are thinking, (especially Julia because I find her so cute:love:) and I got really excited when I knew that Ellie had never been with a man (mostly) and had the chance to bring her to be lesbian only (with Julia and the FMC only if possible), and I did press CTRL in most of the flirting interactions with a man as well, as I really don't like them.
 

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A Wife and Mother 0.161 follardoMODV2 spanish

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This is not a simple update of my mod. It's almost a new game. This is my vision of how should looks like the end game. Be carefull if you are falling in love with Sophia, in this mod she is extremely humiliated and she become submissive. If you don't want to see Sophia like that don't install my mod. And of course respect women.



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My English is very bad, so I have to apologize for sharing only in spanish. Anyway, there are a lot of fap content and you can enjoy even if you don't know spanish.

Renders from: kthuluSFM, leonox, Rapt0rZ, soure, 狗子你变了, Wynlard, westpod, Xispix, Atton563, gkdanuka, eastdot . I hope I don't forget anyone. Thanks for your work and for sharing.

Alert: If you play in english dialogues won't match with renders. And don't forget to backup your files.

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