strenif

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Can't really call it a sexless game when it's not finished yet.
If that were truea good number of the games on versions .1 - .3 would get hit your proposed ban.

You don't like the game? That's cool, but you sound like an SJW at Uni when you advocate that something you don't like should be removed.
 

armion82

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I think if u consider it a competition JOHN is somehow has faster dev unlike AWAM and that's sad :/ atleast if L&P could update monthly it could be a better competition :/ But... he is gone almost for 12 days now and no sign of him and we don't know yet how process is going on now:/ we just know last teaser image is finished :D
A good sign will be if he release 0.075 this week.Otherwise we are looking for another 45-50 days between updates.
 

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544 pages... no bad 4 a game that like or unlike. It seems to me that is not a porn game, but it's really a great work.
If u want 2 see a lot of action is not the game u r looking 4. I like the story and the idea that goes very long time 2 corrupt or not corrupt the wife, and maybe this is the reason that it's so diffucult say it's a great game or not. It's also hard waiting 4 a new update that take so long time. But respect 4 the work and the story. A great work has lots of fans and they need fast updates 'cause they can not wait 2 long.
 
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544 pages... no bad 4 a game that like or unlike. It seems to me that is not a porn game, but it's really a great work.
If u want 2 see a lot of action is not the game u r looking 4. I like the story and the idea that goes very long time 2 corrupt or not corrupt the wife, and maybe this is the reason that it's so diffucult say it's a great game or not. It's also hard waiting 4 a new update that take so long time. But respect 4 the work and the story. A great work has lots of fans and they need fast updates 'cause they can not wait 2 long.
*slow corruption---ok but no sex with husband WHATSOEVER? I know its a "fictional" game but c'mon it is pretty UNREALISTIC especially in a HENTAI GAME.:mad: ...all I can say is I smell milking from faraway.:sick:
 
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roro

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I think if u consider it a competition JOHN is somehow has faster dev unlike AWAM and that's sad :/ atleast if L&P could update monthly it could be a better competition :/ But... he is gone almost for 12 days now and no sign of him and we don't know yet how process is going on now:/ we just know last teaser image is finished :D
JOHN is updated every two monthes, AWAM is updated every 1.5 monthes. You can say that each JOHN's update is a whole gameday and each AWAM is 0.5 gameday, but in terms of renders they are quite identical. Dont get me wrong, I really like JOHN. it has wonderful remders and an interesting, well written storyline. Stoper does a great job and I'm sure (and hope) he'll get tons of patrons in the near future.
But you can't be serious when you're calling l&p slow (in term of renders and being a lone developer)
 

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JOHN is updated every two monthes, AWAM is updated every 1.5 monthes. You can say that each JOHN's update is a whole gameday and each AWAM is 0.5 gameday, but in terms of renders they are quite identical. Dont get me wrong, I really like JOHN. it has wonderful remders and an interesting, well written storyline. Stoper does a great job and I'm sure (and hope) he'll get tons of patrons in the near future.
But you can't be serious when you're calling l&p slow (in term of renders and being a lone developer)
Well JOHN too for the last 2 updates wasn't the whole day update, it came in two parts so more than two months per update...
 

armion82

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JOHN is updated every two monthes, AWAM is updated every 1.5 monthes. You can say that each JOHN's update is a whole gameday and each AWAM is 0.5 gameday, but in terms of renders they are quite identical. Dont get me wrong, I really like JOHN. it has wonderful remders and an interesting, well written storyline. Stoper does a great job and I'm sure (and hope) he'll get tons of patrons in the near future.
But you can't be serious when you're calling l&p slow (in term of renders and being a lone developer)
Actualy he is realy slow.50 days for half day is simply not enough.Don't forget that he claim that he wrote all the scenes 1 year and half ago.So that should actualy make the work much easier.Sadly it is one of two- he lie to us about that or he just don't work on the game.
 
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roro

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Actualy he is realy slow.50 days for half day is simply not enough.Don't forget that he claim that he wrote all the scenes 1 year and half ago.So that should actualy make the work much easier.Sadly it is one of two- he lie to us about that or he just don't work on the game.
Why just one of two? maybe there's another explanation? have you ever rendered a scene with the same detail level as l&p or stoper? have you ever post processed an image file? What about the coding? there is a limit for single dev, and stoper once said that thats his limit, and there is no reason to think that l&p has a different limit... As for the claims about the pre-written story, I think he ment that the story's outline is already written. I don't think he wrote the whole dialogues, and even if he did, that's not as time consuming as the renders.
 

armion82

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Why just one of two? maybe there's another explanation? have you ever rendered a scene with the same detail level as l&p or stoper? have you ever post processed an image file? What about the coding? there is a limit for single dev, and stoper once said that thats his limit, and there is no reason to think that l&p has a different limit... As for the claims about the pre-written story, I think he ment that the story's outline is already written. I don't think he wrote the whole dialogues, and even if he did, that's not as time consuming as the renders.
You realy think that he can make only 3-4 renders per day?WOW.
 

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I also would like the updates to arrive faster. damn, I would like to play the whole finished game today (you know it would be a fabulous game when finished...). But good things take time, you cant have such renders without spending a lot of time on them. You can't have a realistic corruption story if you rush it. I want it to be as good as it can be, that's why I live with the slow updats. I prefer delays over compromise...
 
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armion82

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I also would like the updates to arrive faster. damn, I would like to play the whole finished game today (you know it would be a fabulous game when finished...). But good things take time, you cant have such renders without spending a lot of time on them. You can't have a realistic corruption story if you rush it. I want it to be as good as it can be, that's why I live with the slow updats. I prefer delays over compromise...
I'm Ok with time but he must do something otherwise his idea that the game will be finished in 3,max 4 years is just a lie.15-16 months are already gone.And we still have 22-23 days left.Speculations that the game will need at least 5 more years don't seem so unbelievable.
 

roro

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You realy think that he can make only 3-4 renders per day?WOW.
you haven't done your homework ;)
No less than 300 renders per update. Even if he's working each and every day, in 45 days its 6-7 renders per day. But most of the updates had much more than 300 renders, so I guess l&p's pace is of 10 renders per working day. I don't think you work 30 days a month, so don't expect devs to do so...
 

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Why just one of two? maybe there's another explanation? have you ever rendered a scene with the same detail level as l&p or stoper? have you ever post processed an image file? What about the coding? there is a limit for single dev, and stoper once said that thats his limit, and there is no reason to think that l&p has a different limit... As for the claims about the pre-written story, I think he ment that the story's outline is already written. I don't think he wrote the whole dialogues, and even if he did, that's not as time consuming as the renders.
of course L&P has a different limits. he earns five times what stoper earns. he could hire a part timer helper to speed up the development. Stoper can't do that since his monthly income is only 1K.
 
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you haven't done your homework ;)
No less than 300 renders per update. Even if he's working each and every day, in 45 days its 6-7 renders per day. But most of the updates had much more than 300 renders, so I guess l&p's pace is of 10 renders per working day. I don't think you work 30 days a month, so don't expect devs to do so...
300 per half playable day!!!??? are you sure? he did updates with only 120 renders. don't try to confuse people between a full update and half update. because since the demo version (800 renders) he never made an update with 300 renders.
 

roro

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I'm Ok with time but he must do something otherwise his idea that the game will be finished in 3,max 4 years is just a lie.15-16 months are already gone.And we still have 22-23 days left.Speculations that the game will need at least 5 more years don't seem so unbelievable.
I assume l&p believe that in time, the pledges will rise above 8k. He promised that with this goal, He will quite his job or his university courses and will put all his time in this game.
let's do the math. if the patrons support continue it's way up the same pace as before (~250$ with each update if I'm not mistaken), than with 12 updates he will reach his goal. that's 1.5 years from now. The game will be in it's 14-15 gameday, and will need another 15-16 gameday updates. If from that point l&p will be able to make things faster (with buying better hardware, quiting job etc...) and deliver a whole gameday in 1.5 months, than the game will be finished in another two years. So, I guess the best case scenario is a finished game in 3-3.5 years from now. As I wrote before, I want it now, but knowing the limts, I can live with that time frame.
 

roro

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300 per half playable day!!!??? are you sure? he did updates with only 120 renders. don't try to confuse people between a full update and half update. because since the demo version (800 renders) he never made an update with 300 renders.
Yes, I'm sure. the last 3 updates (0.5 day each) had 330, 312 and 295 renders respectively.
 

armion82

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I assume l&p believe that in time, the pledges will rise above 8k. He promised that with this goal, He will quite his job or his university courses and will put all his time in this game.
let's do the math. if the patrons support continue it's way up the same pace as before (~250$ with each update if I'm not mistaken), than with 12 updates he will reach his goal. that's 1.5 years from now. The game will be in it's 14-15 gameday, and will need another 15-16 gameday updates. If from that point l&p will be able to make things faster (with buying better hardware, quiting job etc...) and deliver a whole gameday in 1.5 months, than the game will be finished in another two years. So, I guess the best case scenario is a finished game in 3-3.5 years from now. As I wrote before, I want it now, but knowing the limts, I can live with that time frame.
Let me tell you that 3-3,5 years won't happen.
After all he already quit his studies but we actualy starting to get the updates not every 30 days,but first 35 days,later 40 days and now we are towards 45-50 days.
 
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